Starting Monday, Costco will require customers to wear masks!UPDATE # 81

You can choose not to wear a mask on your property, and in public spaces where not require by law, and you will be inconsiderate based on current science as I see it, but well within your rights, and I respect that even though I disagree with it.

But if you walk on private property, like into a store, where the owner is exercising his right to require masks, and you ignore that and take advantage of the fact that the owner is not picking a fight because he doesn't want to risk the safety of his employees, you are not standing up for freedom, but you're just a jerk, and no better than shoplifters who steal from stores that have a no-challenge policy.
 
The wife and I went to a store this week and they just posted a sign which states all customers have to wear masks (also no kids under 16 and no pets, even service animals). If you don't have one you could purchase one for $1 at the service desk. Well, while I respect their store policies and their right to do what they want on their property, I exercised my right to shop somewhere else, and we did...
 
This gave me a chuckle
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For those who don't want to comply
with Costco and threaten to shop elsewhere
they should ask themselves a series
of questions.

One, what was the attraction to Costco
in the first place?

Two, by boycotting, how inconvenient
is it to shop elsewhere?

Three, do the alternatives provide
the same services, goods that Costco
does?

Four, when do you expect to capitulate
and start wearing a mask because it's
not really that hard to comply?
 
JayFramer said:
The Nazis forced all to wear an armband, too. This is the same type situation.

Won't be visiting costco anytime soon. Freedom above all else!!
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Oh, please.

First, Costco is a members only buying club that can pretty much set whatever rules it wants for members. No different than most country clubs. Don't like the rules, don't belong.

Second, aren't you active duty Air Force? Part of that whole group of guys (the military) where they dictate what time you get up, how you dress, how you cut your hair, and what your maximum weight will be under penalty of some form of UCMJ punishment. You're OK with that level of control, but a mandatory face mask is like a nazi arm band. Seriously.

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The first time I went into a Costco 30+ years ago the snarky employees pissed me off so badly I have never gone back. So this mandate is meaningless to me. There has already been one video online of a cop body slamming and arresting a person who was balking at wearing a mask in the store.

I really don't know what country we're in any longer. The United States of America was founded on the principles of personal freedom, responsibility and unbridled capitalism. In just a few weeks fear of catching the flu has destroyed all of it. The Constitution has been suspended and the economy has been wrecked over the flu. Police are arresting married couples for sitting next to each other on a park bench. A woman was thrown in jail for opening her business. Governors and judges are acting like kings and we are all serfs being told to obey orders. I still can't believe it.
 
Ziggy2525 said:
Oh, please.

First, Costco is a members only buying club that can pretty much set whatever rules it wants for members. No different than most country clubs. Don't like the rules, don't belong.

Second, aren't you active duty Air Force? Part of that whole group of guys (the military) where they dictate what time you get up, how you dress, how you cut your hair, and what your maximum weight will be under penalty of some form of UCMJ punishment. You're OK with that level of control, but a mandatory face mask is like a nazi arm band. Seriously.

:rolleyes:
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Thank you Ziggy. JayFramer made a comparison of apples and hand grenades, not anything similar. Like you said Costco is members only so it's definitely their house, their rules. I haven't belonged myself as I haven't see the value for me for a Costco membership, figuring in the cost of it plus the extra driving to do any shopping there in my case and is the same reason I let my Sam's Club membership lapse.

JayFramer, did someone put a gun to your head and force you to go into a Costco? I bet they didn't.:rolleyes: If you don't like someone's rules, don't patronize them. As for myself, I am glad that some companies have implemented rules such as these to try to help out the ones most susceptible to Covid 19 and applaud the company for their actions. I just might have to look into a Costco membership now and try them out.
 
Starting Monday, Costco will require customers to wear masks!

Absalom said:
But if you walk on private property, like into a store, where the owner is exercising his right to require masks, and you ignore that and take advantage of the fact that the owner is not picking a fight because he doesn't want to risk the safety of his employees, you are not standing up for freedom, but you're just a jerk, and no better than shoplifters who steal from stores that have a no-challenge policy.
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That's a bit much.
I am one of your jerks who refuses to wear a face mask in public. Think I'm a jerk? Fine. I'm ok with that. Stay at least 6 feet away from me like they suggest. In fact, for strangers in public, stay at least that far away from me anyway, virus or not.

I don't like the fact that my power-drunk governor has issued what he feels is a royal proclamation that I MUST wear a mask in public. The other half of that order gets less attention - "or maintain 6' of social distance". As I already mentioned, I'm great with the "stay away from me" part of that.

That being said, I do like the store owner's right to make that his policy, if that's what he really believes is best for his store. It's nothing more than me asking you to remove your shoes in my house.

What I don't like is that my county is strong-arming businesses with the threat of several-thousand dollar fines if customers are in their store with no mask on. Around here, it's not about the safety of the shopkeeper's employees, it's about avoiding fines levied by power-drunk politicians.


Back to your "shoplifter" comment....

If I'm at a store, mask or no mask, I'm there to engage in legal commerce. I want to select items and pay for them with legal tender. If I wanted to steal, a mask would be infinitely better for me, as there is no shortage of "6 foot tall white males" in this area. I'd blend right in and enjoy the autonomy granted by my mask if I was wanting to steal.

Go ahead and think I'm a jerk. But saying I'm no better than a thief? That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum.

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Hillbilly77 said:
.... But saying I'm no better than a thief? That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum.
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From the erudition of your comment, I suspect your "misunderstanding" of the meaning of my comparison and the point of its application to this situation is quite intentional.

I'm not comparing stealing with not wearing a mask as far as the legality or moral permissibility of these activities as such is concerned.

What I am comparing are two activities which in this context both involve exploiting the store owner's decision not to insist on his rights with force. In both cases, you do something you're not supposed to because you think nothing will happen to you. And that's the principle regarding which this comparison is quite legitimate.

If my comment is the stupidest thing you've ever read on this forum, you apparently missed post #25 above, about the Nazi armbands.
 
mod34 said:
Abstract thought alert! We sort of think that if masks are required, they should be provided by the establishment.

Sort of highlights our overall dilemma I guess.
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Well what about the shirt and shoes???....... not to mention pants!!!!!

"going commando " would still be a individual's right to choose!!!!!!

:D
 
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I think Costco is doing a great job. They are trying to make it more safe for my wife and I to shop. Wearing a mask is the correct thing to do, anywhere you go, and might come into contact with someone. Why would anyone not wear a mask, and possibly make someone sick or kill them. My daughter works at a hospital, and I am pretty sure that she would like to see less sick people coming in.
 
Seriously???

Wearing a mask is all about protecting others not you. If you are not willing to do that, and it doesn't take much of an effort, then don't be surprised if your presence is not appreciated or even tolerated.

Their store, their rules... it is just that simple. Don't like it? Vote with your feet and get on down the road... you will not be missed.
 
Sam's Club membership is $45 and they are refunding the first $45 you spend is what I read on another thread. I've been a Sam's member since the 80s and prefer SC to Costco anyway. Much better Member's Mark tp than the Kirkland sandpaper Costco sells. :eek:

Don't know about masks didn't need them the last time I was there but that's been a couple weeks.
 
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dockmurgw said:
Never underestimate the power of the newly emboldened Citizen Stasi to harass a business into compliance. And I cant wait to see the blatant hypocrisy and outrage displayed by some in this forum when one of these business's post a gun free zone sign to keep their customers safe.
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Again, not even close to the same thing.
 
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