If humidity is a problem, a dehumidifier In the safe will protect well cared for (lightly oiled) guns.
Gun Safe in Garage
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If humidity is a problem, a dehumidifier In the safe will protect well cared for (lightly oiled) guns.
Fort Knox. Bolt to the floor. Golden rod to fight humidity. Neighbor to help build cabinet around it to look like storage. Heavy workbench and shelving on both sides.
Just watch for the goldenrod to **** out occasionally and make it easy to replace. Ask me how I know this.
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Just watch for the goldenrod to **** out occasionally and make it easy to replace. Ask me how I know this.
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Like the Batmobiles.
It will not stop a pro, but putting a gun safe in a tight area will make it harder to crack. Causing a few minutes of trouble to a burglar could make a big difference.
I'd love to have room for a massive big safe.
Instead I have two heavy lockable storage cabinets, but they are bolted to the studs, slab, and have two 1/2" bolts holding them together. And they fit in the closet of my office.
Instead I have two heavy lockable storage cabinets, but they are bolted to the studs, slab, and have two 1/2" bolts holding them together. And they fit in the closet of my office.
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Retired LTC USAR
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I've had my safe in my garage since I got it, 2004. Placed it on some 1/4" oak boards to keep it off the concrete. Placed a goldenrod in it. No rust on any of my guns. Did not bolt it down either.
Note was not in garage but the basement.
Well in my old house in the suburbs I made it a point to hide my more serious "get in" type tools. That included taking out the pressure adjuster handles out of my cutting torch outfit and putting them in the safe!
Well in my old house in the suburbs I made it a point to hide my more serious "get in" type tools. That included taking out the pressure adjuster handles out of my cutting torch outfit and putting them in the safe!
UncleEd
Member
KBM,
The solution is really simple.
Move wife's clothes in with
daughter's in that closet.
Then you'll have room in your
bedroom closet for the safe.
The solution is really simple.
Move wife's clothes in with
daughter's in that closet.
Then you'll have room in your
bedroom closet for the safe.
HOUSTON RICK
Member
I would find away in the house. I have read at least two posts in the last six months where secured guns were stolen out of forum member's garages. Better in a locked cabinet in the house than in a safe in the garage. Also PA summers can be hot and humid, you want guns where there is some climate control. Good luck!
TheHobbyist
Member
If it makes sense, put in a false wall.
I forgot to add they have those bed safes now too. Monster Vault is one such brand....best of both worlds? I.e., indoor, discreet, storage efficiency.
I forgot to add they have those bed safes now too. Monster Vault is one such brand....best of both worlds? I.e., indoor, discreet, storage efficiency.
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Best protection you can get is good gun insurance. I use a outfit called Gun & Trophy Insurance. They are very reasonable on their pricing and it is excellent coverage.
Kanewpadle has lots of experience in this area and I've learned a bunch about how to protect my guns by reading his and other's posts on this forum........in regards to a dehumidifier I really like the "PEET Safe Dryer". I like that it circulates the air:PEET Safe Dryer | Electronic Gun Safe Dehumidifier
Don
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Tell your wife she should use the garage for overflow from her purse and no thief will be able to find your safe.
Had mine in the garage. Not in plain site. Humidity was horrible. I finally said uncle, and built a room around the safe, added AC. Not as hard as you think, locate it in a corner, block off a section of the garage with studs and dry wall. Made it big enough to put in a workbench and now I reload there.
EVEN with that, I use a goldenrod, desiccant, and gun socks. (Yeah, I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy).
EVEN with that, I use a goldenrod, desiccant, and gun socks. (Yeah, I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy).
I have both a Liberty and a KODIAK and can recommend either as a great quality product.
Both of mine are in my garage here in IL which can be plenty humid during the summer. My basement is finished living space and a walk-out. One corner has a 1-car overhead garage door and that garage is now a work area, Harley and gun safe room.
Both safes have two of the plug-in dehumidifier units. I plug them in to recharge them every week or ten days. I've had the Liberty about 15 years and the KODIAK for three or four. Never had a problem with too much humidity and during the warm weather months the garage door is open A LOT. Today for example it's been open since about 8 a.m.
Thankfully nobody has tried to break into them and we haven't had a fire. Frankly, the chances of either happening are slim to none. I buy the safes for peace of mind, protection from grandkids and others having access, protecting my investment, possible protection from liability, etc.
Just buy a good quality safe .... you're on the right track.
Both of mine are in my garage here in IL which can be plenty humid during the summer. My basement is finished living space and a walk-out. One corner has a 1-car overhead garage door and that garage is now a work area, Harley and gun safe room.
Both safes have two of the plug-in dehumidifier units. I plug them in to recharge them every week or ten days. I've had the Liberty about 15 years and the KODIAK for three or four. Never had a problem with too much humidity and during the warm weather months the garage door is open A LOT. Today for example it's been open since about 8 a.m.
Thankfully nobody has tried to break into them and we haven't had a fire. Frankly, the chances of either happening are slim to none. I buy the safes for peace of mind, protection from grandkids and others having access, protecting my investment, possible protection from liability, etc.
Just buy a good quality safe .... you're on the right track.
prairieviper
Member
My safe, purchased from my John Deere dealer, has John Deere logos but was made by Liberty. It's a high quality safe and I recommend Liberty highly. The dealer delivered the safe for me and set it up in the shop are in one of our farm buildings.
The shop is used more like an office and is insulated but not climate controlled. Inside the safe I have a PEET SafeKeeping dryer which works by the same principle as a GoldenRod. I also have two rechargeable, desiccant type dehumidifiers inside the safe. All of my guns are in silicone treated gunsocks which not only helps in keeping any moisture from your guns but protects them from dings and scratches when taking guns in and out of the safe. Summers are hot and humid here in cornfields and cows country so during the hot months, I also run a room dehumidifier.
My system may be overkill but there has never been even a hint of rust in all the years I have been owned the safe.
The shop is used more like an office and is insulated but not climate controlled. Inside the safe I have a PEET SafeKeeping dryer which works by the same principle as a GoldenRod. I also have two rechargeable, desiccant type dehumidifiers inside the safe. All of my guns are in silicone treated gunsocks which not only helps in keeping any moisture from your guns but protects them from dings and scratches when taking guns in and out of the safe. Summers are hot and humid here in cornfields and cows country so during the hot months, I also run a room dehumidifier.
My system may be overkill but there has never been even a hint of rust in all the years I have been owned the safe.
To add a couple of items.....
Neither of my safes are bolted down. They weigh in the 800 pound range EMPTY. Can't imagine the weight full .... especially if someone has a few cases of ammo in there.
I also left the shipping bases on mine so they're off the concrete basement floor. The Liberty came with 4x4s that I cut off flush with the front and back of the safe and painted them flat black. People don't even notice them.
The KODIAK came on a steel 4-inch tall base already painted the same color as the safe.
Neither of my safes are bolted down. They weigh in the 800 pound range EMPTY. Can't imagine the weight full .... especially if someone has a few cases of ammo in there.
I also left the shipping bases on mine so they're off the concrete basement floor. The Liberty came with 4x4s that I cut off flush with the front and back of the safe and painted them flat black. People don't even notice them.
The KODIAK came on a steel 4-inch tall base already painted the same color as the safe.
wetdog1911
Member
It's funny, but I never needed, or even opened, the Golden Rod that came with my Sportsman Steel safe for the 13 or so years it was in my garage in Pembroke Pines, Fl. The average temp & humidity was 80's & 80's, days and slightly cooler at night. Never a problem with rust.
Moved to SC in 2007 and instant rust problems. DOH!! Figured out it wasn't the humidity so much as the 30* swings in temp that are normal here in the Upstate along with similar swings in humidity (100% at dawn, 40% in the afternoon). Safe is in the garage here also.
The Golden Rod got put into use right quick. Problem solved and it has stayed in use ever since. Now, I'm wondering how long they last, being constantly 'on'. Pushing 13 years now.
Highly suggest getting one, it's a cheap rust prevenative for your safe.
Rob
I disagree that insurance is the best protection.
Insurance is a third tier, loser approach to the problem of gun theft. It is far better to prevent the theft than to try to replace what you didn't make the appropriate efforts to protect.
I'm not saying don't get insurance as one more approach. It's just not the first or best approach.
My first priority is to protect my family on my property. Second is to protect my property. Guns are included as a part of that broad protection, but security measures protect people, then things, and insurance covers failures. I'd rather prioritize my planning, effort and money into not failing in the first place.
My safe weights in at about 1500 dry and it is well bolted down, floor and back wall! (in a tight space with no room to use a lot of break in type tools) I live quite rural and if gone the crooks may have time they can get in, I just bought a large supply of time.
I used large sized channel iron on the floor. Not a problem just drill through the bottom of the safe through the channel iron, change bits and then drill in concrete. As a construction worker I attached a lot of items to floors, walls and ceilings so I had the tools and knowledge to do it right!
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