You’re caught in this situation....

The trouble is, if you drive off and run over someone not directly threatening your life, you will likely be considered the aggressor.

This is a no win situation.

I'd sit and wait for a gap I could drive through without hitting anyone.
 
Two words -> Reginald Denny

It didn't work out well for him, and that is exactly why you must take immediate action to prevent injury or death.

In Texas, we have the law of parties. I would bet that a reasonable man would hold the crowd of rioters accountable as one under that law, or at least the one's in your immediate path to safety.

I've never understood why Denny opened the door to his truck or allowed it to be opened so he could be pulled from it. It's been a long time since I've seen the video and don't really want to watch it again, so I can't remember which actually happened. He was in a defensible position if he had just kept his door locked and could have easily driven away slowly to safety. There is an effect called the Normalcy Bias, wherein a state of denial sets in and you convince yourself this can not really be happening to me. I think that may have been at play. The most glaring historical example usually given to illustrate the Normalcy Bias is during Nazi Germany when the Jews were being loaded onto railroad cars destined for concentration camps, the reason they didn't put up any resistance is because they were convinced (by themselves or the Germans) that it was only a short trip and everything would return to normal within a few days.
 
Current day possible incident.

Whatever reason, you had to go the a mid size or large city.
Wrong turn maybe, or you find yourself in a
sudden confrontation with a large protest group that have
managed to stop traffic on a main roadway.

Your blocked in.

The car in front of you is being attacked....windows broken
large crowd rocking the vehicle.
The driver in the vehicle to your front right is being dragged from
her truck.
Your rear window shatters...


Your armed.......

Doesn't change.
Avoid
Evade
Escape
Defend
 
This should work:
 

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When the guy in Albuquerque got tired of getting whomped with a skateboard and drew and fired, the "peaceful protesters" scattered like cockroaches. Even the one that was hit. As suggested earlier, a round or two into the ground might buy enough time to get away. Just be sure you have plenty of ammo.
 
Well obviously I would let them kill me without putting up a fight. I'd much rather be savagely bludgeoned to death by honorless thugs than ever face the courtroom boogeymen or end up in prison. I mean, let's face it, with my long flowing locks, chiseled jawline, and deep blue eyes, I'd immediately become the object of desire amongst the entire cellblock.
I mean, I only bought a gun as a sort of good luck charm in hopes that simply carrying it would ward off all evil. Most folks would carry a crucifix or rosary beads or something, but I don't have the guts to stand before an earthly judge, much less a heavenly judge.

Seriously though, I'm of the sort who'd rather go down fighting, protecting those I love to the best of my abilities and striking down as many villains I could in the process. If I should survive and have to face a bunch of greasy lawyers, then I'll accept full responsibilies for my actions, make my case, and should the law be against me, then so be it. It beats dying the disgraceful death of a coward along with all those who were counting on me.

I decided long ago that I would be the survivor and never the victim. I've seen too much evil, too much injustice, too many otherwise good people who didn't get involved because they were afraid of the consequences, and spent too much time bound by fear and despair, only to realize that when measured against everything that I had faced up to that point, especially my own demons, the fear of imprisonment or death paled in comparison. I was already a prisoner of fear and doubt. I've also already faced death, and did it with a smile on my face.

So yeah, I'd do everything in my power to avoid trouble, to stay safe, to be a just, honorable, and gentle man, but if it all comes down to allowing myself and others around me to be victimized by cowardly scum who prey on innocent people, then screw it, like hell am I just going to lay down and take it. If they want a riot, if they want blood, if they want fire and destruction, then they will have it.
 
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Having been brought up in a state that doesn't trust it's residents, or grants them the constitutional right to self-defense, makes one leery of discussing how you'd react in such and such a situation. It is not all that uncommon here in the SSRNJ to see prosecutors build a case of premeditation against someone that had something at hand in the event of a threat against your person. As a result, you learn to not talk about what you plan to do.
 
You know, it's still a self defense situation no matter who is the antagonist.
Matters not. If your life or safety is threatened you do what needs to be done and talk about it later.
No one gets a pass to threaten someone's life or safety.
 
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"I am the pure-hearted warrior awakened by rage... SON GOKU, THE SUPER SAIYAN!!!"
 
Well obviously I would let them kill me without putting up a fight. I'd much rather be savagely bludgeoned to death by honorless thugs than ever face the courtroom boogeymen or end up in prison. I mean, let's face it, with my long flowing locks, chiseled jawline, and deep blue eyes, I'd immediately become the object of desire amongst the entire cellblock.
I mean, I only bought a gun as a sort of good luck charm in hopes that simply carrying it would ward off all evil. Most folks would carry a crucifix or rosary beads or something, but I don't have the guts to stand before an earthly judge, much less a heavenly judge.

Seriously though, I'm of the sort who'd rather go down fighting, protecting those I love to the best of my abilities and striking down as many villains I could in the process. If I should survive and have to face a bunch of greasy lawyers, then I'll accept full responsibilies for my actions, make my case, and should the law be against me, then so be it. It beats dying the disgraceful death of a coward along with all those who were counting on me.

I decided long ago that I would be the survivor and never the victim. I've seen too much evil, too much injustice, too many otherwise good people who didn't get involved because they were afraid of the consequences, and spent too much time bound by fear and despair, only to realize that when measured against everything that I had faced up to that point, especially my own demons, the fear of imprisonment or death paled in comparison. I was already a prisoner of fear and doubt. I've also already faced death, and did it with a smile on my face.

So yeah, I'd do everything in my power to avoid trouble, to stay safe, to be a just, honorable, and gentle man, but if it all comes down to allowing myself and others around me to be victimized by cowardly scum who prey on innocent people, then screw it, like hell am I just going to lay down and take it. If they want a riot, if they want blood, if they want fire and destruction, then they will have it.

(solomn nod)... Wut it is, man. Wut it IS... :cool::cool: :cool:
 
The trouble is, if you drive off and run over someone not directly threatening your life, you will likely be considered the aggressor.

This is a no win situation.

I'd sit and wait for a gap I could drive through without hitting anyone.

You have a 3000 to 5000 pound lethal weapon under you. Everyone's life around you is being threatened and they broke your rear window. Find a way to drive. Don't play games with your life. Drive!
 
Sounds like a Kobiyashi Maru ?

I'm hoping for a full tank of gas too! [emoji16]

It's not a Kobiyashi Maru, my friend, and you don't need a full tank of gas. You need ten feet of room, or your vehicle's length, and your foot on the gas pedal to resolve the problem. And if you have less room then make room - it can be done. Save your gun for the last resort when you can't drive at all.

Rumor - nobody, not even anarchists, likes to be shot at, never mind "shot".

And you have to drive because if you don't they'll tip your vehicle over. So drive!
 
Many years ago, a guy tried to hit me with an aluminum baseball bat while I was driving his ex-wife's car. Self-preservation kicked in, and without even thinking about it I gunned it and swerved at him. He dropped the bat and ran. There's a lot more to this story, and it ultimately has a positive outcome. The point is that when self-preservation kicks in, you just never know what you're capable of.

And to address the question at hand, well, I just don't know what I'd do. But it would be something!
 
I am ordering a flame thrower for these types of situations. Maybe I would just try to remember how to do donuts with the vehicle like I did when I was working on the beach.
 
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