Glock carry condition

[mikerjf]

I've always gone with kydex because they won't possibly crease and intrude into the trigger guard like a leather one might. I do have an IWB but haven't used it yet, OWB is a little less worrisome.

 

[chiefdave]

The holster arrived yesterday and after working with it I think that an accidental discharge would be highly unlikely. In battery will be my mode of carry. I was surprised that a full sized semi-auto was so unobtrusive when worn under a loose fitting shirt.Thanks to everyone who responded for their opinion.

 

[JJEH]

The holster arrived yesterday and after working with it I think that an accidental discharge would be highly unlikely. In battery will be my mode of carry. I was surprised that a full sized semi-auto was so unobtrusive when worn under a loose fitting shirt.Thanks to everyone who responded for their opinion.

Looking good sir.

 

[hyena]

Hats off to you guys willing to conceal carry a gun that large and heavy. I rarely even carry my Shield .45, preferring a J frame. 14 rounds of .45 is serious business.

 

[fredj338]

You carry a glock as it as designed for, chamber loaded. The glock has a safety built into the trigger. It cant go off unless something presses the trigger. I carry a g26 daily, iwb @ 3:30. I would not likely carry it aiwb, but then its isnt comfy anyway.

 

[transit]

A Glock should be carried with a round in the chamber, ready to go.

A holster is mandatory.

Kydex is an excellent choice.

As minconrevo mentioned above, Safariland ALS holsters (-especially if you like paddles) are incomparable. Nothing is faster, safer, and more secure.

Do not add any gadgets to a Glock.

There is a world full of perfectly serviceable pistols out there, from a host of manufacturers, available from the factory with traditional manual safeties. If you are not comfortable carrying a Glock as designed, I would never argue with you.

I would suggest that you buy a Sig, or a Smith, or a CZ, or an H&K, or an FN, or a Beretta, or...

I would argue that adding gadgets to a design not intended for them, especially the ones that require you to poke around with your finger, under stress, with a time component, in a space that is only designed to make the weapon fire, is not a wise idea.

My two cents? If you do not trust the Glock Safe Action system, then do not carry a Glock. But do not carry a neutered Glock just to make you feel "safe."

 

[Moo Moo]

It is the "Re-Holstering" of a Glock which is the danger period. Numerous Police Officers (including ones from my own old organization), have shot themselves in the legs during training. They have shot at their targets, reloaded and then rushed the re-holstering of their Glocks, forgetting to remove their finger from the trigger guard. As they push the gun down into the holster, their fingers have hit the side of the holster and set off the gun.

 

[Smoke]

It is the "Re-Holstering" of a Glock which is the danger period. Numerous Police Officers (including ones from my own old organization), have shot themselves in the legs during training. They have shot at their targets, reloaded and then rushed the re-holstering of their Glocks, forgetting to remove their finger from the trigger guard. As they push the gun down into the holster, their fingers have hit the side of the holster and set off the gun.

That's not a defect of the gun. That's poor training on the part of your colleagues.

You carry a glck as it as designed for, chamber loaded. The glock has a saefty built into the trigger. It cant go off unless something presses the trigger. I carry a g26 daily, iwb @ 3:30. I would not likely carry it aiwb, but then its isnt comfy anyway.

Either you trust the design or you don't

 

[Erocksmash]

Finger off trigger, problem solved...

 

[rockquarry]

Just a few thoughts from someone unfamiliar with Glocks...

I'll not criticize Glock advocates. If they feel comfortable with these guns, that's fine. As for after-market gadgets, they're usually for the gadgeteers who can't bring themselves to use anything out-of-the-box. It seems another gun would be better for them than re-designing the original.

Was the Glock design an attempt to improve upon the perceived disadvantage of the first shot double-action trigger pull of conventional double-action pistols? I think I may have read this thirty or more years ago when Glocks began to see regular use, but what I recall may not be correct.

I've never seen a disadvantage to traditional double-action. I'm very used to them and comfortable with such a setup. They're very safe and while some prefer a holster for carry, these guns don't require a holster for safety.

Again, it's all in what a person is familiar and comfortable with. It appears that Glocks have an excellent reputation, but we're all glad to have choices.

 

[Ziggy2525]

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Was the Glock design an attempt to improve upon the perceived disadvantage of the first shot double-action trigger pull of conventional double-action pistols?
...

I was thinking it was designed for the Austrian Army.

Mass produced off the shelf item. Relatively inexpensive, accurate enough, dependable, durable, simple battery of arms, simple to maintain, low part count.

Sounds like a military spec to me.

 

[jim lock]

Great info from top to bottom. My only addition is practice in front of a mirror to start and make sure you are keeping your finger off the trigger while drawing. Make sure the weapon is empty. Also practice putting the weapon back in the holster safely. I have seen an AD this way, scared the you kow what out of everyone there.
You could also practice in carry 3 --- IMHO not a bad thing to know. My key words are practice practice, get to know the routine in your sleep.
Jim

 

[LCC]

Glock 19, the most sold handgun in the world, is the Model T of plastic semi's. Loose enough tolerences to keep firing when dirty, tight enough to remain accurate while dirty. For a combat handgun, hard to beat. Wear out a G19, you spent some serious years at the range.
EDC Glocks for years until I had an AD that could have been disasterous, haunts me to this day. And the weapon had nothing to do with it, all on me not respecting the required manual of arms.
Made me realize I was increasingly more a rusty nail than a sharp tack, and changed my EDC to only full DAO or striker w/manual safety.
As Clint so succinctly stated, 'a man has got to know his limitations'

 

[mckenney99]

chiefdave, while the Glock is a very safe design, the most dangerous time is during reholstering. With your thumb break holster, be VERY cautious that the long outside end of the thumb break strap that goes over the back of the slide does not enter the trigger guard while inserting the pistol. I have seen that happen on the firing range. The trigger cannot tell the difference between a finger or a piece of leather that presses on it as the gun is pushed down into the holster pocket.

 

[ContinentalOp]

chiefdave, while the Glock is a very safe design, the most dangerous time is during reholstering. With your thumb break holster, be VERY cautious that the long outside end of the thumb break strap that goes over the back of the slide does not enter the trigger guard while inserting the pistol. I have seen that happen on the firing range. The trigger cannot tell the difference between a finger or a piece of leather that presses on it as the gun is pushed down into the holster pocket.

IIRC, one of the more infamous instances of "Glock leg" happened because the guy was reholstering his Glock in a soft suede holster with a stretched-out, worn thumb break strap, when the strap went in the trigger guard and, well, you know what happened next.

Again, not a knock on the Glock design, but that user 1) didn't pay attention to the condition of his carry gear and 2) didn't pay attention while reholstering.

I was always taught to keep my thumb on the hammer when holstering, and is one of the reasons I prefer hammer-fired DA guns, and is also one of the reasons I like the SCD for Glocks. But none of that alleviates the need to pay attention to what you're doing. It just gives one a little more margin for error.

Just my opinion.

 

[Doug M.]

Being a firearm owner is serious and requires similar seriousness of mindset and thought.

Carrying a firearm, even more so.

Carrying some firearms that may be less tolerant of poor training and stupid behavior, another notch up.

Some people think a gun is a talisman and don't cultivate a sound mindset and trained performance. It is not possible to have an unintended discharge (ND, maybe AD) with a properly functioning Glock unless one deviates from sound gun handling by a staggering amount.

 

[WR Moore]

Wish I'd saved the source, but back in 2007 or so I saw a great picture that captured the answer to the OPs question.

It showed an M&P in a glass fronted box on a wall. The glass had a label reading "Break Glass in An Emergency". Hanging by a chain as a dedicated glass breaker was a Glock.

 

[Darkenfast]

Assuming you have two hands to use. That is unsafe.

Not true. We were trained (Navy in mid-90s by Marine instructors), in how to rack 1911s one-handed (either hand), in an emergency. We did this with live ammunition and no accidents.

 

[Doug M.]

It is unsafe because the pistol is not ready for use. Military training and weapons status is based on a bad mix of a staggering level of institutional hoplophobia and having to deal with working to the lowest common denominator E-1. Training for the SOCOM tough dudes is different but not common.

When I was still in LE, we did some joint ops with the military for open houses on base and the like. Good folks, but the weapon handling was abysmal.

 

[Jessie]

Glock made the Glock to be carried like that. Loaded, holstered with the safe action trigger.
Israel practices a different method and anyone who isn't comfortable carrying a gun loaded with no manual safety should adopt their method or use a different gun.
If I carry a Glock it's chambered and holstered.