I think most of the folks at Smith & Wesson are pretty gun friendly.
Smith & Wesson Moving HQ to Tennessee
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I think most of the folks at Smith & Wesson are pretty gun friendly.
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I genuinely feel bad for our like minded brothers who live and have long family history in places of the country where our interests are dumped on.
When I think of life long Massachusetts gun guys reading that Smith & Wesson is moving, I feel for them, no way that doesn't hurt.
Meanwhile, I can barely contain my excitement and I can't express how much I hope this continues to spread.
When I think of life long Massachusetts gun guys reading that Smith & Wesson is moving, I feel for them, no way that doesn't hurt.
Meanwhile, I can barely contain my excitement and I can't express how much I hope this continues to spread.
labworm would have been both happy and sad.
Jim Watson
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Right. Drop forges would be a lot harder to move than plastic molds and assembly benches.
Puller
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Unless they're wearing a mask . . . just kidding.
I do think the Knoxville area will be a great home for S&W
.38SuperMan
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Tennessee also has Barrett and Beretta as well as a number of smaller companies. SCCY had plans to move to Blount County a few years ago but had financial issues that stopped the move.
A couple of comments from my observations and comments on a different forum.
AR platform guns are assembled by temporary workers, not permanent staff. The parts don't require fitting as did the older revolvers and semi autos.
The company that molds the M&P pistol frame is in CT, but owned by S&W. No word on whether that operation is going to be moved.
Revolvers are no longer built by "fitters" but are assembled via production line. Those who have bought revolvers lately seem to have a higher level of failures out of the box than in the old days.
S&W has over 100 CNC machines in Springfield. By a combination of moving newer and buying some new machines, they can move a lot of that to TN.
Houlton is not affected by the move, Houlton factory unaffected by Smith & Wesson’s move to Tennessee
If you've ever seen the forge in Springfield, you know what a job it would be to move that. That and revolver assembly will only take up a small portion of the factory. I won't be surprised if that is moved sometime in the future.
Interestingly (to me), my son mentioned Knoxville as a place where my wife and I might want to relocate. Someone else mentioned Maryville and Alcoa. I wonder what real estate values are going to be like in a few months?
I wouldn't worry too much about people fleeing MA because their jobs moved (not a huge number) will do to the local politics.
I'll say this one last time. It's not the "outsiders" moving in to your state that are doing this. It's the public schools and libraries that you are funding with your tax dollars. Pay attention to those, not the license plates on your new neighbors cars.
Sorry for the thread drift, but I'm tired of the clueless blaming the change in demographics on outsiders.
AR platform guns are assembled by temporary workers, not permanent staff. The parts don't require fitting as did the older revolvers and semi autos.
The company that molds the M&P pistol frame is in CT, but owned by S&W. No word on whether that operation is going to be moved.
Revolvers are no longer built by "fitters" but are assembled via production line. Those who have bought revolvers lately seem to have a higher level of failures out of the box than in the old days.
S&W has over 100 CNC machines in Springfield. By a combination of moving newer and buying some new machines, they can move a lot of that to TN.
Houlton is not affected by the move, Houlton factory unaffected by Smith & Wesson’s move to Tennessee
If you've ever seen the forge in Springfield, you know what a job it would be to move that. That and revolver assembly will only take up a small portion of the factory. I won't be surprised if that is moved sometime in the future.
Interestingly (to me), my son mentioned Knoxville as a place where my wife and I might want to relocate. Someone else mentioned Maryville and Alcoa. I wonder what real estate values are going to be like in a few months?
I wouldn't worry too much about people fleeing MA because their jobs moved (not a huge number) will do to the local politics.
I'll say this one last time. It's not the "outsiders" moving in to your state that are doing this. It's the public schools and libraries that you are funding with your tax dollars. Pay attention to those, not the license plates on your new neighbors cars.
Sorry for the thread drift, but I'm tired of the clueless blaming the change in demographics on outsiders.
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bigwheelzip
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Seems more like they ascribe to the " if it ain't broke, don't fix it philosophy". Corporate is on a record breaking profitable money making streak lately, and it seems unlikely they'd make a move equivalent to potentially shooting themselves in the foot.
The press release shows that none of the Springfield manufacturing base is moving, only assembly and the corporate suite.
Connecticut is transferring the S&W portion of their plastics operation, and Missouri is apparently moving their S&W distribution facility to TN.
All this seems designed to shield them from the MA state legislature at minimal cost. This may change in the future, but apparently doesn't need to for corporate expedience.
Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. will move its headquarters, distribution, assembly and plastic injection molding operations...
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As someone who grew up and lived in
Ma for 38 yrs of my life ,the state deserves a good bashing.You need a concealed carry permit to own a child's toy gun that shoots the bb size rubber balls out.
Ronnie is from middle TN. What a beautiful area with an incredible mix of farmers, high tech and moonshiners. At least it was when I lived there.
.38SuperMan
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I live 20 minutes from Maryville and my brother lives in Blount county. I’m retired but did a lot of business for the hospital and a few other clients there. Blount county is the largest county in the state. There’s low crime, great medical care, excellent schools, low cost of living compared to the rest of the US, low property taxes, great people and beautiful scenery ( Great Smoky Mountain National Park).
Houses sell fast. This summer, homes in Knoxville were selling before they could be listed. My house in Loudon Co has doubled in value in 5 years.Blount and Knox are the same. Housing like the rest of the country is climbing quickly.
The politics is very conservative except Knoxville. We have a lot of outsiders in our area from the NE via Florida but as a rule they don’t influence our politics. We want to keep it that way too. M
I lived in Knoxville and Farragut TN for almost 55 years. My wife and I moved out because the politics was getting way to left. Crime was going up and taxes climbing out of sight. People became rude and aggressive. It was just getting too crowded and way too many rules. We moved to paradise.
Blount county is a great place but it’s really growing but the pluses outweigh the negatives in my opinion. The community is still small with Alcoa and Maryville having a population of about 45,000.
If you’re serious about living in the area check out towns In Blount, Monroe and Loudon counties. Stay away from Tellico Village. Greenback, Lenoir City, Loudon and Madisonville are wonderful places.
.38SuperMan
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I’ve known several moonshiners and consumed plenty of their whiskey. I was a good friend of the late moonshiner Popcorn Sutton.
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Sounds like a mutual piece of happiness, not counting the lost tax revenue in Taxachusetts. Good for S&W, good for Tennessee, good for the shooting community, and good riddance Massachusetts. Should have happened long ago.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Probably because none of them take magazines over 10 rounds
cmj8591
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I know this is going to be framed as a gun issue but it's more about doing business. Just about everything that isn't a service industry is moving out of Massachusetts. It has become almost impossible to operate here, much like it is in California. Even the tech stuff that was feeding off of the Universities around Boston is moving out. When you look at all of the regulations and taxes it's a no brain er for them. Not to mention the cost of infrastructure like electricity, water, gas. All business killers. They have seen the writing on the wall for the last 20 years and most of the work has been farmed out to other places. Right now there's only about 150 people working in Springfield and most of them are administrative. This is just one more step in turning Massachusetts into a welfare/slave state.
CAJUNLAWYER
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I think the word you are looking for is Balkanization
sureshotbob
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I will have to talk to my brother he works as a tool/mold maker at the Deep River plant in Ct.
I'm not sure if he would move south as he is at or very close retirement age.
I'm not sure if he would move south as he is at or very close retirement age.
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smoothshooter
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Henry should have done the same thing years ago.
I’m guessing the owner and most of the employees are pretty hardcore New Englanders and would rather die than leave for a less “ cultured “ region.
I’m guessing the owner and most of the employees are pretty hardcore New Englanders and would rather die than leave for a less “ cultured “ region.
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