Color of gun change felony in ny?

[Fide686]

Has anyone conformation of the quietly passed NYS law that makes owning a firearm which has had its color changed a felony?
I can only find statues that specify toy guns must have certain bright colors. None that address real gun color modifications.
Thanks

 

[robertrwalsh]

Sounds weird to me, even for New York, but......

 

[HeyJoe]

NY State Senate Bill S7152

you are correct ,such a law took effect on Nov. 1. it addresses, manufacture, design and sale of such a gun, not possession.

 

[Scharfschuetzer]

In watching California and NY State laws, I would be a felon if I moved to either one of these Socialist Republics and brought my MSR or my Ceracoated S&W Model 31.

It just defies belief.

 

[glenwolde]

The way I read it just when the color is changed to make it appear to be a toy. Like painting the last 1/2" of the muzzle orange. But since I don't live there I don't think I'll put a lot of research time into it.

 

[sipowicz]

This could be one reason. Why this company needs to push the envelope is beyond me.

Real gun with red-painted tip by Winter Garden gun maker causing controversy

 

[Baxter6551]

I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV …. but If I read the provided statute correctly it is a crime to change the color of the gun to make it look like a toy gun with the purpose of selling it. I don’t see where a normal gun owner having his gun refinished in another color would violate the statute. I may be mistaken and that’s just my opinion.

 

[Scharfschuetzer]

I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV …. but If I read the provided statute correctly it is a crime to change the color of the gun to make it look like a toy gun with the purpose of selling it. I don’t see where a normal gun owner having his gun refinished in another color would violate the statute. I may be mistaken and that’s just my opinion.

That makes sense.

 

[m&p2.0fdethumbsafety]

to be fair people have a right to do with their property however they please, even if it means making their gun look stupid and ugly. new york should focus on keeping criminals off the streets and this won't be an issue, instead they sink tax payer's money and government resources on something they can't possibly reinforce. what's to stop any criminal from purchasing some orange spray paint?

 

[Tyree1867]

The language in the legislation is sure confusing. At first it refers to "able to be concealed on the person" & then goes on to include rifles & shotguns.
I guess this puts folk who do cerakote out of business in NYS.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Pretty sure this was targeted at that Nerf Glock. Time will tell if they feel frisky enough to target an unusual Cerakote . . .

 

[HeyJoe]

The new law prohibits, manufacture, design, and sale but not possession. The way the law is written, i'm not sure if even rebluing a gun with the finish worn in spots wouldnt be a class D felony

 

[Echo40]

I can't be entirely sure because it is NYC we're talking about here, but based on the way it's worded, I believe that they're saying that paining a gun so that it looks like a toy is a felony.

So for example, if you have your Glock CAA MCK modified to look like a Nerf Gun, then it's a felony, but you can buy an otherwise colorful example of a gun so long as it clearly is a gun like this SR1911 NRA Edition.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

This is the language on the link - it has nothing to do with "color" per se:

Amends the definition of disguised gun to include certain guns that are designed and intended to appear to be a toy gun

Anyone who paints a bright color onto the front of a real gun to make it look like a toy sounds like a criminal to me from the outset.........

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Does this look like anything but a colorful handgun?

Would anyone, okay, any reasonable person, think it was a toy?

 

[Rustyt1953]

Pretty sure this was targeted at that Nerf Glock. Time will tell if they feel frisky enough to target an unusual Cerakote . . .

Yep....

 

[Muss Muggins]

“intended to” is an interesting term of art . . .

 

[HeyJoe]

if you read the actual bill, it applies to any change of color from the original color the firearm came with. its ok if its blue, pink, red or purple as long as it is the original color. you cannot change the color.changing the color is a class D felony.

 

[teletech]

In watching California and NY State laws, I would be a felon if I moved to either one of these Socialist Republics and brought my MSR or my Ceracoated S&W Model 31.

It just defies belief.

Actually, you get to bring in off-roster handguns if you move to CA. Once they are there you can legally sell them, which means some Californians desperate for an XYZ will give you like 3x what it's worth anyplace else. Funny old world.

 

[BB57]

I’m not surprised.

It’s an obvious response to the earlier practice of requiring toy guns to have an orange muzzle.

When that first started happening my thought was that a smart criminal would paint an inch or so back from the muzzle of his pistol orange. It would be enough to cause many officers to pause a half second or sho before shooting and give a criminal a clear edge.

In other words I felt the whole orange muzzle thing was well intended but incredibly stupid in practice.

This kind of law making it illegal to “disguise” a gun as a toy was inevitable as it seeks to prevent criminals from doing that by making it illegal. And surely if it’s illegal a criminal intent of doing violence with a gun won’t disguise a gun if it would be illegal.

Worse, while this kind of thing could and probably will result in additional charges after a shooting or a crime where the gun was used or present, in practice those charges will go the way of pretty much all firearms charges - they’ll disappear entirely as part of a plea agreement for the original crime. That makes them utterly useless.