CAJUNLAWYER
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I've got the gun that killed Lincoln-doesn't bother me at all.
Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus y'all
Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus y'all
Would you want that gun ?
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margethatcher
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At one time I owned a collection of civil war breech loading carbines, all used. It used to make me think of Mrs. Winchester's state of mind while the carpenters were building staircases to nowhere. Bought a nice model 36 with one hard scratch on the cylinder, I imagine when the gun was flung during the process. Sweet shooter.
THE PILGRIM
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Once in High School did a Civil War Presentation.
A local Lady loaned me her Grandfathers Deringer that he carried in that War. It really boosted my talk into the A+ Zone!
He was a CSA Doctor.
Don't think he ever shot anybody.
A local Lady loaned me her Grandfathers Deringer that he carried in that War. It really boosted my talk into the A+ Zone!
He was a CSA Doctor.
Don't think he ever shot anybody.
CLASSIC12
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It's one thing to have an ex military or war used weapon, which may or may not have killed. I have a few of those, from both sides of WWII.
However one of my first pistol is a 1939 made Walther PPK I bought in 1992
When I asked the LGS if there was a box with it, he pulled out a cardboard addressed to the local police, and under the address label was a Slavic name, a date from a few years prior, a cross and the word suicide. It didn't spook me but my sisters and my mom were not impressed to say the least, and reckoned I shouldn't keep it. I still have it. Great shooter too, even at 25 meters.
However one of my first pistol is a 1939 made Walther PPK I bought in 1992
When I asked the LGS if there was a box with it, he pulled out a cardboard addressed to the local police, and under the address label was a Slavic name, a date from a few years prior, a cross and the word suicide. It didn't spook me but my sisters and my mom were not impressed to say the least, and reckoned I shouldn't keep it. I still have it. Great shooter too, even at 25 meters.
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From a glass half full perspective, at least you know it works.
BigBill
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If my surplus military guns could talk? My safe hasn't vibrated yet at night. The guns rest quietly now. There quiet like a retired police dog. They only shoot paper.
There is a house that was a couple few miles from the last house I owned in Ohio. James Ruppert killed 11 family members in it on Thanksgiving day 1975. The relator that sold the house a couple years later never told the buyers about the houses history.
They found out fast thou.
I've stopped near it many times trying to image the horror that went on inside.
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"FOR SALE: The Murder House in Hamilton, OH where in 1975, on Easter Sunday, James Ruppert woke up,loaded his two handguns and a rifle, walked down stairs and murdered 11 family members in his mother's house. He then sat on her couch for three hours before calling 911 to report the incident.He is currently serving two life sentences at the Allen Oakwood Correctional Institution in Lima, Ohio. The new owner was not made aware of the murders. She stated that, "Almost every day, a car passes the house and stops.Some people point. Some just cruise on by. Others get out and knock on the door to ask questions" according to a WCPO article"
I'm kinda morbid, I'd actually like having a gun used in a murder. As long as no kids were killed with it.
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It's a few miles across the river from my daughter's place.
cmj8591
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It's just a hunk of inert material. It has no morals and it certainly doesn't have a soul. The only meaning it has is that which is assigned to it by the person who possesses it.
It's that the gun can be a reminder of a specific horrific incident. Many times involving the person that doesn't want the gun around anymore.
Everyone is effected in different ways by reminders of trauma.
If it helps to get past it by clearing some things away in your life or avoiding going back to certain places,,then that's what those people do to help themselves.
Not everyone's a tough guy or afraid to admit it.
Everyone is effected in different ways by reminders of trauma.
If it helps to get past it by clearing some things away in your life or avoiding going back to certain places,,then that's what those people do to help themselves.
Not everyone's a tough guy or afraid to admit it.
Absalom
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Now this certainly makes sense to me.
The average milsurp buyer should be aware that he is buying a weapon of war and who might have been killed with it.
The average home buyer would not anticipate a place of slaughter, and should definitely be informed of that, especially if it could result in his new residence being a ghoulish tourist attraction as described in the post above.
dasnake
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Thats funny.........
I was watching a show the other day about the 14th,ford museum has the derringer used.
I'll see your sic dinosaur with my own......
Sic semper culus!!!!!!
I was watching a show the other day about the 14th,ford museum has the derringer used.
I'll see your sic dinosaur with my own......
Sic semper culus!!!!!!
I am in the wouldn't bother me. Gun didn't kill anyone. The bullet did it.
Gun is just steel and wood. The time it was fired and the bullet killed it did nothing different than any other time it was fired and the bullet went though a tin can, a piece of paper, wood etc.
Gun is just steel and wood. The time it was fired and the bullet killed it did nothing different than any other time it was fired and the bullet went though a tin can, a piece of paper, wood etc.
31FordA
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Years ago I walked into my local cop shop while they were buying a literal pile of guns from a PD evidence room. I dug through the pile and found a P-229 in .357 Sig. I got a great deal on the pistol. As I was filling out the paperwork the guy who brought the guns in commented that it was used in a suicide. My reply was "Well, at least I know it works". Never bothered me in the least, and it was a really accurate pistol.
When I was a kid my neighbor investigated a suicide where a woman shot herself in the head with her husbands favorite hunting rifle. My neighbor said the husbands first question when he arrived was "When can I get my gun back?".
When I was a kid my neighbor investigated a suicide where a woman shot herself in the head with her husbands favorite hunting rifle. My neighbor said the husbands first question when he arrived was "When can I get my gun back?".
About seven years ago the Remington 700 chambered in 6mm Remington that Charles Whitman used to shoot innocent people from the University of Texas tower was auctioned off. Bidding began at $25K and pretty sure I remember it going for considerably more than that.
It's one thing to own a gun with "history" but rather another to wantonly collect firearm memorabilia because it was used to murder people. I found it strange that anyone would really find owning Whitman's rifle desirable to the extent they would actively bid on it and pay a small fortune. The winning bidder remained anonymous. To each their own.
It's one thing to own a gun with "history" but rather another to wantonly collect firearm memorabilia because it was used to murder people. I found it strange that anyone would really find owning Whitman's rifle desirable to the extent they would actively bid on it and pay a small fortune. The winning bidder remained anonymous. To each their own.
dasnake
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Query...........
You say anonymous, I wonder if someone who was affected by that firearm and found it so repugnant bought it to destroy, just a thought.
Also wasn't that the first mass sniper shooting that day?
You say anonymous, I wonder if someone who was affected by that firearm and found it so repugnant bought it to destroy, just a thought.
Also wasn't that the first mass sniper shooting that day?
Personally, I'd pass. I'm not an especially "feely" kind of guy, but definitely would rather not knowingly have a gun that destroyed a life. Just bad energy, and I like good/positive energy.
Not to say that one, or more of my guns may have a "history." With the amount of guns that I own, I'm sure one/some do, but I wouldn't want one that I knew was involved in a murder, suicide, or killed someone. I know it's not the gun's fault, but I don't want any part of that! So, I guess ignorance is bliss...
But, that's just me, and sounds like my opinion on this subject is definitely in the minority around you thugs...! Ha!
Not to say that one, or more of my guns may have a "history." With the amount of guns that I own, I'm sure one/some do, but I wouldn't want one that I knew was involved in a murder, suicide, or killed someone. I know it's not the gun's fault, but I don't want any part of that! So, I guess ignorance is bliss...
But, that's just me, and sounds like my opinion on this subject is definitely in the minority around you thugs...! Ha!
We would have no issues with getting that gun. The gun is an inanimate object that has never done anything on its own.
Well said, and reflects my own thoughts. As long as the gun wasn't used to harm someone I knew and loved, thus no "distressing memories," I'd have no issues with owning it. Guns (and bullets) don't kill people. People kill other people - sometimes for good reasons.
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