sousana
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Course they are, I'm more worried about the Daryl behind the gun.
Are Glocks safe?
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pantannojack
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Some one tell me why a 1911 has 4 (FOUR) safetys and a Glock has NONE.
I’m a big fan of Glocks in general, and the Glock 26 in particular. Yes, they are ugly. Yes, they have no soul. As the great Ken Hackathorn says, “Glocks are the only guns that come out of the box with no pride of ownership.” But the damn things just work.
Yes, they are inherently more “dangerous” to the user than a revolver. Carrying one is akin to carrying a 1911 cocked and locked with the safety off. As has been said, practice and attention to detail is essential. As was also said, the act of holstering poses the greatest risk. I added a striker control device (AKA “The Gadget”) from Tau Development to the Glock 26 I carry most often, and it adds an extra measure of security without adding any steps to firing the gun.
It all boils down to a personal decision, hopefully based on an honest self-assessment of one’s skill level. As for myself, I still carry a revolver 90+% of the time. There is an added component of “intentionality” with a double action revolver that I prefer. Despite the many thousands of rounds I’ve fired through Glocks over the years, I have on occasion—during pistol matches—sent a round downrange a fraction of a second before my sights have settled on the target.
Yes, they are inherently more “dangerous” to the user than a revolver. Carrying one is akin to carrying a 1911 cocked and locked with the safety off. As has been said, practice and attention to detail is essential. As was also said, the act of holstering poses the greatest risk. I added a striker control device (AKA “The Gadget”) from Tau Development to the Glock 26 I carry most often, and it adds an extra measure of security without adding any steps to firing the gun.
It all boils down to a personal decision, hopefully based on an honest self-assessment of one’s skill level. As for myself, I still carry a revolver 90+% of the time. There is an added component of “intentionality” with a double action revolver that I prefer. Despite the many thousands of rounds I’ve fired through Glocks over the years, I have on occasion—during pistol matches—sent a round downrange a fraction of a second before my sights have settled on the target.
No less safe? A Glock is safer than many or most striker-fired guns, with its middle-of-the-trigger safety. It is very safe to carry, certainly in a decent holster.
The problem, if it is one, with most striker-fired guns, is holstering. With most hammer guns, round or slabside, one can control the hammer manually when holstering. This is an additional assurance of safe holstering. Even on the Centennials, one can put the index finger behind the trigger when holstering. Does your striker-fired gun offer even this option?
Striker-fired guns can be holstered safely. Often a hammer gun can more easily be holstered even more safely.
Your choice.
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pantannojack
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Were they designed for guys with no thumb in mind?
Find some NY trigger springs, 8lb and 12lb
Glocks are safe. People? Maybe not so much.
My EDC is a Glock 26. My bride (The One For Whose Happiness I Live) carries one too.
A number of our friends have purchased and now carry Glocks after learning of our preferences and trying ours. I have trained these people in safely carrying, handling and shooting these pistols. Many in our community are pilots. They are accustomed to the practice of training on a specific piece of equipment new to them, even if they are generally familiar with the concept.
I consider the Glock to be an outstanding combat pistol. In my estimation their benefits merit any training necessary to ensure safe carriage, handling and use.
Those same pilots understand the universal applicability of the term 'pilot error', and how to avoid it.
My EDC is a Glock 26. My bride (The One For Whose Happiness I Live) carries one too.
A number of our friends have purchased and now carry Glocks after learning of our preferences and trying ours. I have trained these people in safely carrying, handling and shooting these pistols. Many in our community are pilots. They are accustomed to the practice of training on a specific piece of equipment new to them, even if they are generally familiar with the concept.
I consider the Glock to be an outstanding combat pistol. In my estimation their benefits merit any training necessary to ensure safe carriage, handling and use.
Those same pilots understand the universal applicability of the term 'pilot error', and how to avoid it.
I’ve been regularly carrying a Gen 5 G26 for several years. Very accurate, easy to carry, can use mags holding 10-33 rounds and it hasn’t misbehaved yet.
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1sailor
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Just don't "Glock yourself". You wouldn't want to end up with "Glock leg". I wonder where those expressions came from.
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max503
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Thanks. Many good replies here. My friend carries his 43x in condition 3.
I'm still on the fence. 5.5 lb trigger pull concerns me. I might buy it because its a good deal. I don't have to carry it, or keep it for that matter. I could flip it or trade.
The thought of having 11 rounds of 9mm in such a small package does sound appealing.
I'm still on the fence. 5.5 lb trigger pull concerns me. I might buy it because its a good deal. I don't have to carry it, or keep it for that matter. I could flip it or trade.
The thought of having 11 rounds of 9mm in such a small package does sound appealing.
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IMO a Glock 26 is a bit heavy for pocket carry. I have a well made Galco horsehide pocket holster for mine that I've relegated to heavy winter coat use only. Even with sturdy pants the weight is too much for me in a pants pocket. In a proper IWO or OWB belt holster the 26 is a great carry choice. Also will work with an ankle rig. Remember it will handle standard G19 and G17 mags too. Great for reloads or as a backup to either. If you want a more DA revolver-like trigger pull consider a NY-1 or NY-2 drop in unit.
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With the way some new Glocksters shoot, the Barn and Targets are safe from getting hit. 
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1911 designed by who? and glock designed by who?
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Glocks are basically the same as most striker fired pistols are! I would not want one with a manual safety! I have seen too many people rely on manual safety's that are often flicked off by accident. Just as scary are people who purposely leave the safety in the off position for a quick shot and inadvertently flick them on! If they need the gun immediately, they will not understand why the gun didn't go bang. IMHO most safeties are either too big (can easily be flicked on or off by accident) or too small, making them hard to activate in a moment of need.
Glocks, Sigs, an alike all have internal safeties to insure they won't go off if dropped, bumped etc and the only way for them to be fired is when the trigger is pulled. MAKE SURE that trigger is not pulled unless you want it to go off. Even the center "so called safety" in Glock triggers (which I personally dislike) is almost just as vulnerable as the rest of the trigger. If pulled by accident it will still go off - one reason I don't like them. They offer little to no real safety.
After carrying a Revolver for 40 years my muscle memory & mindset is to draw and pull the trigger. I do not want to introduce a third step that I have to learn now! KISS!!
My EDC is a P365 with no safety. With these striker fired pistols it is imperative to always carry them in a holster that covers the trigger guard. Keep that finger off the trigger unless you are ready, willing and able to discharge a shot. Practice, practice, practice!
Glocks, Sigs, an alike all have internal safeties to insure they won't go off if dropped, bumped etc and the only way for them to be fired is when the trigger is pulled. MAKE SURE that trigger is not pulled unless you want it to go off. Even the center "so called safety" in Glock triggers (which I personally dislike) is almost just as vulnerable as the rest of the trigger. If pulled by accident it will still go off - one reason I don't like them. They offer little to no real safety.
After carrying a Revolver for 40 years my muscle memory & mindset is to draw and pull the trigger. I do not want to introduce a third step that I have to learn now! KISS!!
My EDC is a P365 with no safety. With these striker fired pistols it is imperative to always carry them in a holster that covers the trigger guard. Keep that finger off the trigger unless you are ready, willing and able to discharge a shot. Practice, practice, practice!
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.455_Hunter
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The typical "modern" striker action is an answer to a question that didn't need to be asked in the first place. All it takes is one time for the trigger to be inadvertently actuated and your life can change forever. Why make Mr. Murphy's task easier compared to a full-stroke, full-weight DA trigger?
Max,
Up until a few years ago, all I would look at were revolvers (S&W or Colt) and 1911s. That changed after I worked/shot my first GSSF match, then shot my 439 in the first Adaptive Defensive Shooting Summit. The 439 hurt my time plus scores with the first shot DA. Fortunately, that is where I won my P320 X-compact. After borrowing a Glock for my first and second GSSF matches, I decided I needed my own.
Fast forward. I have since won my Sig P320 X-compact and a P365, plus a Glock 30, and when I shoot GSSF matches, I'll be shooting 5 divisions this year. Because I had similar apprehensions, I selected a P365 with manual safety, which is my carry arm when I can legally carry. I am starting to warm up to the Glocks, and looking at pocket carrying my G42, and possibly IWB my G26. However, when I would want to reholster any Glock, I would first remove the holster, reholster a hot pistol, then return the holster to my belt. I am fond of the Blue Star kydex holster.
The only time that I reholster a striker fired pistol is during matches without removing my holster is when I have shown the pistol to be clear.
Just a suggestion on a good deal. If your good deal is more than $425 plus tax and NICS check, you might want to consider joining the GSSF. It's $35 for the first year, but you can purchase a Blue Label Glock 26 Gen 5 for $425 plus tax and NICS, plus be eligible to enter GSSF matches, which can help to build both your proficiency and confidence in a striker fired pistol. Also, if the standard 5.5 pound trigger is too light for you, you can add either a + connector to increase the pull weight, or get a New York trigger.
If you practice safety, it will become second nature!
Up until a few years ago, all I would look at were revolvers (S&W or Colt) and 1911s. That changed after I worked/shot my first GSSF match, then shot my 439 in the first Adaptive Defensive Shooting Summit. The 439 hurt my time plus scores with the first shot DA. Fortunately, that is where I won my P320 X-compact. After borrowing a Glock for my first and second GSSF matches, I decided I needed my own.
Fast forward. I have since won my Sig P320 X-compact and a P365, plus a Glock 30, and when I shoot GSSF matches, I'll be shooting 5 divisions this year. Because I had similar apprehensions, I selected a P365 with manual safety, which is my carry arm when I can legally carry. I am starting to warm up to the Glocks, and looking at pocket carrying my G42, and possibly IWB my G26. However, when I would want to reholster any Glock, I would first remove the holster, reholster a hot pistol, then return the holster to my belt. I am fond of the Blue Star kydex holster.
The only time that I reholster a striker fired pistol is during matches without removing my holster is when I have shown the pistol to be clear.
Just a suggestion on a good deal. If your good deal is more than $425 plus tax and NICS check, you might want to consider joining the GSSF. It's $35 for the first year, but you can purchase a Blue Label Glock 26 Gen 5 for $425 plus tax and NICS, plus be eligible to enter GSSF matches, which can help to build both your proficiency and confidence in a striker fired pistol. Also, if the standard 5.5 pound trigger is too light for you, you can add either a + connector to increase the pull weight, or get a New York trigger.
If you practice safety, it will become second nature!
A Glock has three safeties .
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