A Tragedy

So should every death result in a homicide prosecution?

What about self defense against a home invader or car jacking?
Every car accident?
Every medical procedure?
Every workplace accident?
The guy my dad knew who suffered a fatal head injury when he fell out of the cherry picker?

Prison is for people who intentionally and with malice do harm to others, both to punish them and to deter others.

How does punishing accidents (which by definition are unintentional) with prison accomplish either? Where does it cross the line of serving a public good into vindictiveness?

If the car accident , medical procedure, or workplace accident were truly accidents, meaning unforeseeable and unintentional, and not reckless or negligent, then of course they shouldn't prosecute. If a kid runs right in front of a car while chasing his dog, and is killed, then that's an accident and should not be prosecuted. If the driver was speeding, texting, or fell asleep at the wheel, than that's no accident, and the driver should be prosecuted.

The man fired at a target he didn't identify. That's no accident. That's reckless. I feel bad for the man. I'm sure he is torn apart. But a life has been taken and somebody must be held accountable.
 
That's my read - not being sure of whether there really was a threat or even knowing who/what you were shooting at fails the 'reasonable man' test anywhere.

Ohio Revised Code
Section 2903.05 | Negligent homicide.

Effective:September 6, 1996

(A) No person shall negligently cause the death of another or the unlawful termination of another's pregnancy by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance as defined in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of negligent homicide, a misdemeanor of the first degree.
 
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I tell you one thing this thread did. I had a conversation with the wife. She has 2 daughters who live with us. 15 and 16. Starting to get social, drive, etc. While neither wife or I go all Rambo with every noise in the night, we do both have guns by our sides of the bed. With 2 girls, dogs and cats we are used to some movement in the night.

But, this tragedy is being used as an example of why they should not be doing unexpected things in the middle of the night. They know that if either of us calls out "who is there?" they had best let us know who, what and where in short order.

My son has a key to our house but when he opens the door he calls out and doesn't come in until we answer.
Last week I was working in the woods cutting logs and he found me but he stopped about 25 yds. from me and got my attention before he came any closer. He was reared in the real world and he knows that it's irresponsible to try and slip up on people or not let yourself be known. Larry
 
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I have always known that some of the people who try to look after the rest of us get some pretty dirty ends of the stick. I am sorry that you have to live with some of the memories that come with that. I believe it is one of the things many do not appreciate about what law enforcement gives for the rest of us. I am glad I do not have to live with that memory in my head.
Every time, I've had interaction with LEO's, they've been respectful and professional. Granted, there's never been anything other than traffic violations in my case but I'm grateful they're among us.
 
I tell you one thing this thread did. I had a conversation with the wife. She has 2 daughters who live with us. 15 and 16. Starting to get social, drive, etc. While neither wife or I go all Rambo with every noise in the night, we do both have guns by our sides of the bed. With 2 girls, dogs and cats we are used to some movement in the night.

But, this tragedy is being used as an example of why they should not be doing unexpected things in the middle of the night. They know that if either of us calls out "who is there?" they had best let us know who, what and where in short order.

+1. Best post in this thread.
 
If the car accident , medical procedure, or workplace accident were truly accidents, meaning unforeseeable and unintentional, and not reckless or negligent, then of course they shouldn't prosecute. If a kid runs right in front of a car while chasing his dog, and is killed, then that's an accident and should not be prosecuted. If the driver was speeding, texting, or fell asleep at the wheel, than that's no accident, and the driver should be prosecuted.

The man fired at a target he didn't identify. That's no accident. That's reckless. I feel bad for the man. I'm sure he is torn apart. But a life has been taken and somebody must be held accountable.

I get what you're saying, but this is my point:

A post referenced the case of a guy who shot the neighbor's drunk kid caught climbing through the window, and it is assumed the kid was just sneaking into the wrong house. What if he wasn't? I've also seen stories that a significant number of robberies are done by neighbors. What is the owner's responsibility in identifying who broke in or his state of inebriation?

I live alone. No one has any right to be here except me. If someone forcibly enters in the night, all I know is he shouldn't be here. When 'identifying my target' what does it matter who specifically it is?
 
That's my read - not being sure of whether there really was a threat or even knowing who/what you were shooting at fails the 'reasonable man' test anywhere.

Ohio Revised Code
Section 2903.05 | Negligent homicide.

Effective:September 6, 1996

(A) No person shall negligently cause the death of another or the unlawful termination of another's pregnancy by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance as defined in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of negligent homicide, a misdemeanor of the first degree.

I used to live in Ohio, and their self defense laws were 'odd'. Like most places, homicide is always a crime. The way the law was written, self defense (which was very narrowly defined) was an affirmative defense against the homicide charge.

The 'oddness' part is that in Ohio it was an affirmative defense - the defendant had the burden to prove that he met ALL of the conditions that define self defense. The prosecutor had to prove nothing beyond that you killed him. YOU had to prove it was justified. Which meant that you had to admit to killing him. So the prosecutor didn't even have to do that.

Right before I left, Ohio passed castle doctrine, which gave the resident the presumption that he met the conditions for self defense. The prosecutor could challenge, and if successful, the burden was back on the defender.

That may have changed recently, I'm not sure. Ohio has become much more pro self-defense since I left.
 
I get what you're saying, but this is my point:

A post referenced the case of a guy who shot the neighbor's drunk kid caught climbing through the window, and it is assumed the kid was just sneaking into the wrong house. What if he wasn't? I've also seen stories that a significant number of robberies are done by neighbors. What is the owner's responsibility in identifying who broke in or his state of inebriation?

I live alone. No one has any right to be here except me. If someone forcibly enters in the night, all I know is he shouldn't be here. When 'identifying my target' what does it matter who specifically it is?

Let me offer a thought...say you're in your house, alone. You hear a window break, and hear someone climbing in. You have a flashlight in one hand, a firearm in the other, and a phone in your pocket. You know the house, where the light switches are, where any potential weapons or items that can be used for weapons are, and there's no one else in your house that might have changed the location of stuff without your knowledge.

Anything wrong with, from cover, 1) deciding to get out your phone with one hand and pushing the 911 button and putting it 'live' back in your pocket, then 2) flipping on a light or shining your flashlight on the intruder and saying in a calm voice, "I have a gun."

You'll learn something then - either the unlawful enterer realizes he/she really screwed up and freezes, or runs away while dripping excrement down both legs - that one's cheaper not to shoot. But if he/she starts toward the sound of your voice or toward your flashlight, then you know he/she is truly dangerous.

I'm against killing people who don't really need killing. Just because it might be legal to kill someone, that doesn't mean killing in that situation is the right thing to do. If police killed everyone that it was legal for an officer to kill it would be hard to get funeral home space most days.

It's hard to un-kill someone.
 
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Let me offer a thought...say you're in your house, alone. You hear a window break, and hear someone climbing in. You have a flashlight in one hand, a firearm in the other, and a phone in your pocket. You know the house, where the light switches are, where any potential weapons or items that can be used for weapons are, and there's no one else in your house that might have changed the location of stuff without your knowledge.

Anything wrong with, from cover, 1) deciding to get out your phone with one hand and pushing the 911 button and putting it 'live' back in your pocket, then 2) flipping on a light or shining your flashlight on the intruder and saying in a calm voice, "I have a gun."

You'll learn something then - either the unlawful enterer realizes he/she really screwed up and freezes, or runs away while dripping excrement down both legs - that one's cheaper not to shoot. But if he/she starts toward the sound of your voice or toward your flashlight, then you know he/she is truly dangerous.

I'm against killing people who don't really need killing. Just because it might be legal to kill someone, that doesn't mean killing in that situation is the right thing to do. If police killed everyone that it was legal for an officer to kill it would be hard to get funeral home space most days.

It's hard to un-kill someone.

I agree, I don't want to shoot anyone either and would rather resolve the situation without resorting to that. But I was referring to legal vs illegal, not advisable vs inadvisable.

For example, here in MN it is legal to use deadly force to stop the commission of a felony inside your 'primary abode'. However the instructor advised against shooting someone over stealing your TV.
 
Prayers for the family. Unfortunately I am sure there will be the usual flood from the monday morning quarterbacks demanding that the father be prosecuted for a tragic mistake.

Well, time to roll up my sleeves then and do some Monday morning quarterbacking.

PROPERLY IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET!

That means know what the hell you're aiming at, let alone shooting. As a cop, I would damn make sure I knew what I was going to point my gun at when I broke leather.

That means use a flashlight, weapon light, turn on the lights, verbally challenge the intruder, etc...
 
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." Sherlock Holmes

Not sure how relevant Sherlock's experience might be...

Sherlock Holmes is a fictional detective created by British author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Referring to himself as a "consulting detective" in the stories, Holmes is known for his proficiency with observation, deduction, forensic science, and logical reasoning that borders on the fantastic, which he employs when investigating cases for a wide variety of clients, including Scotland Yard.
 
It is tragic. He shouldn't have fired on an intruder unless his life was threatened.

Sad deal all around.

Definitely tragic.

Imo, any intruder is life threatening, but he should have ID'd his target.
 
Holmes was based very closely on one of Conan Doyle's professors in medical school, Dr. Joseph Bell, who would astound his students with his ability to observe, ask pertinent questions, then make deductions that were staggeringly accurate. Holmes learned the importance of ascertaining facts before reaching conclusions, in the story "Silver Blaze" he admits to Dr. Watson that his initial deductions about the case were completely off the mark.
 
i am so glad there are so many experts who can read one brief news report and immediately know not only exactly what happened but why, and how it could have been prevented -- even if they disagree with each other...
AMEN! not so sure that if that was me they would be picking up two bodies
 
Let me offer a thought...say you're in your house, alone. You hear a window break, and hear someone climbing in. You have a flashlight in one hand, a firearm in the other, and a phone in your pocket. You know the house, where the light switches are, where any potential weapons or items that can be used for weapons are, and there's no one else in your house that might have changed the location of stuff without your knowledge.

Anything wrong with, from cover, 1) deciding to get out your phone with one hand and pushing the 911 button and putting it 'live' back in your pocket, then 2) flipping on a light or shining your flashlight on the intruder and saying in a calm voice, "I have a gun."

You'll learn something then - either the unlawful enterer realizes he/she really screwed up and freezes, or runs away while dripping excrement down both legs - that one's cheaper not to shoot. But if he/she starts toward the sound of your voice or toward your flashlight, then you know he/she is truly dangerous.

I'm against killing people who don't really need killing. Just because it might be legal to kill someone, that doesn't mean killing in that situation is the right thing to do. If police killed everyone that it was legal for an officer to kill it would be hard to get funeral home space most days.

It's hard to un-kill someone.

You say, "I have a gun," there by informing the intruder you are a threat and giving the intruder your location. What's stopping him from mag dumping on your location? By definition, he's a reckless and dangerous criminal having broken into an occupied residence.
 
You firing a round or 5 through his brisket as he starts his move. Anyone who 'announces' without being ready is suffering the dreaded cranial-rectal inversion.

So you'll know, when I've located felonious suspects and announced (in building searches, alley searches, foot pursuits, etc.), I've never had to fire, but always had them targeted and my finger on the trigger before I opened my mouth.

Failing to be ready to act is just stupid. So is trying to mechanically apply deadly force rules; ask Janae Hairston's dad.
 
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This is what juries have always done in my lifetime; the judge always instructs them in the law. Always. No one gets to just make it up.

Every state and the Federal system have uniform jury instructions by which they instruct the jury; both sides can ask for deviance from the instructions, but that is seldom allowed.

If you don't like a verdict, appeal. You have the right.

Here's a sample instruction for the 'affirmative defense' of 'mistake of fact.'

14-5120. Ignorance or mistake of fact.1
An issue in this case is whether the defendant believed that __________________2. The burden is on the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not have an honest and reasonable belief in the existence of those facts at the time of the alleged conduct. If you have a reasonable doubt as to whether the defendant's alleged conduct resulted from a reasonable belief in those facts, you must find the defendant not guilty.

USE NOTES

1. If this instruction is given, add to the essential elements instruction for the offense charged, "The defendant did not [act] [fail to act] under a mistake of fact."

2. Describe what the defendant claims he or she believed.

[As amended, effective January 1, 1997; as amended by Supreme Court Order No. 16-8300-008, effective for all cases pending or filed on or after December 31, 2016.]

Committee commentary. —

When to give

A jury should be instructed on mistake of fact as a defense "when it negates the existence of the mental state essential to the crime charged." State v. Contreras, 2007-NMCA-119, ¶ 15, 142 N.M. 518, 167 P.3d 966. The jury instructions should be considered in their entirety to determine whether they adequately instruct on the requisite mental state. Id.

"Ordinarily, a defendant is not entitled to a specific instruction where the jury has already been adequately instructed upon the matter by other instructions." State v. Venegas, 1981-NMSC-047, ¶ 9, 96 N.M. 61, 628 P.2d 306 (upholding the district court's refusal to give the defendant's requested mistake of fact jury instruction because it was duplicative). See also State v. Nozie, 2009-NMSC-018, ¶ 36, 146 N.M. 142, 207 P.3d 1119, distinguishing Venegas, 1981-NMSC-047, ¶ 9 (explaining that it was unnecessary to decide whether a mistake of fact instruction, when given along with a proper instruction on the essential elements of the offense of aggravated battery upon a peace officer, would have been cumulative or superfluous because the jury had not been instructed that knowledge of the victim's status as a peace officer was an essential element of the offense). See also UJI 14-2211 NMRA.

Essential Element – Examples

Where the defendant was charged with aggravated battery upon a peace officer, an offense requiring knowledge of the victim's identity as a peace officer, the defendant was entitled to a mistake of fact instruction where a reasonable jury could have found that the defendant was in an intoxicated and disoriented state, and in such a state, he believed that the individual he attacked was the private security guard who had followed him from the supermarket parking lot. Nozie, 2009-NMSC-018, ¶¶ 34-35. (Note: UJI 14-2213 and UJI 14-2214 were amended in 2010 to be consistent with Nozie and add knowledge as an essential element to the offense of aggravated battery upon a peace officer.)

In a conviction for breaking and entering, where lack of permission is an essential element, the defendant was entitled to a mistake of fact instruction because sufficient evidence was presented that the defendant believed he had permission to enter the room: the defendant was very intoxicated, he paid for a room, and it could be reasonably inferred that he used the room as one that he paid for. Contreras, 2007-NMCA-119, ¶¶ 9, 11-12, 18.

Fundamental Error

In State v. Bunce, the Supreme Court held that if the defendant had offered a correct mistake of fact instruction as a defense to embezzlement, the district court's refusal to instruct the jury would have been in error. 1993-NMSC-057, ¶ 13, 116 N.M. 284, 861 P.2d 965. The Supreme Court further concluded that the defendant's offered mistake of fact instruction was inadequate because the jury could have convicted the defendant based on solely innocent conduct and reversed the defendant's conviction on the basis of fundamental error. Id. ¶¶ 14-15 (explaining the defendant's offered instruction would have required the jury to find the defendant not guilty if the defendant believed only that he was owed money, but that the pertinent question was not whether the defendant believed that he was owed money, "but [instead] whether the payments [received by the defendant] were intended to apply to the balance due or whether those payments were intended for some other purpose, such as the purchase and installation of materials").

[As amended by Supreme Court Order No. 09-8300-028, effective September 16, 2009; as amended by Supreme Court Order No. 16-8300-008, effective for all cases pending or filed on or after December 31, 2016.]

USE NOTES
ANNOTATIONS
The 2016 amendment, approved by Supreme Court Order No. 16-8300-008, effective December 31, 2016, updated the instruction to more accurately reflect the elements of ignorance or mistake of fact, revised the Use Notes, and rewrote the committee commentary; deleted "Evidence has been presented that" and added "An issue in this case is whether", after "the defendant did not", deleted "[act] [fail to act] under" and added "have", after "those facts", added "at the time of the alleged conduct", after "whether the defendant's", deleted "[action] [or] [failure to act]" and added "alleged conduct", after "resulted from a", deleted "mistaken" and added "reasonable", and after "belief", deleted "of" and added "in"; in Use Note 2, after "Describe", deleted "the facts constituting a mistake of fact" and added "what the defendant claims he or she believed".

The 2009 amendment, approved by Supreme Court Order No. 09-8300-028, effective September 16, 2009, in the committee commentary, deleted the former first sentence of the last paragraph and added the current first sentence of the last paragraph, but did not amend the jury instruction.

The 1997 amendment, effective January 1, 1997, substituted the language beginning "The burden" for language relating to the defendant acting or failing to act under an honest and reasonable belief in the existence of the facts, added Use Note 1, redesignated former Use Note 1 as Use Note 2, and deleted former Use Note 2 relating to giving bracketed alternatives.

Sufficient evidence for mistake-of-fact instruction. — Where defendant, who was very intoxicated, checked into a motel, paid for a room, was issued a key card without a room number on it, was assigned Room 125, entered Room 121 by breaking a window, and was found by the police using Room 121 as one for which had paid, the evidence was sufficient to support an instruction on mistake of fact. State v. Contreras, 2007-NMCA-119, 142 N.M. 518, 167 P.3d 966.

Mistake of fact common-law defense. — At common law, an honest and reasonable belief in the existence of circumstances which, if true, would make the act for which the person is indicted an innocent act was a good defense. State v. Gonzales, 1983-NMCA-041, 99 N.M. 734, 663 P.2d 710, cert. denied, 464 U.S. 855, 104 S. Ct. 173, 78 L. Ed. 2d 156 (1983).

Mistake of fact concept included in intent instruction involving mental state. — Whenever an intent instruction involving the defendant's mental state is given, the mistake of fact concept is automatically included and does not merit a separate instruction. State v. Griscom, 1984-NMCA-059, 101 N.M. 377, 683 P.2d 59.

Instruction given where evidence defendant believed fact that, if true, made conduct lawful. — To entitle himself to an instruction on mistake of fact, there must be some evidence that at the time in question, the defendant entertained a belief of fact that, if true, would make his conduct lawful. State v. Gonzales, 1983-NMCA-041, 99 N.M. 734, 663 P.2d 710, cert. denied, 464 U.S. 855, 104 S. Ct. 173, 78 L. Ed. 2d 156 (1983).

Defendant was entitled to a mistake of fact instruction on criminal sexual penetration charges. — Where defendant was charged with two counts of criminal sexual penetration (CSP), and where the state presented two theories to the jury, that defendant used physical force or physical violence without the victim's consent, or in the alternative, defendant knew or had reason to know that the victim did not have the capacity to consent to the alleged acts, and where defendant proffered a jury instruction on mistake of fact which was denied by the district court judge who concluded that the unlawfulness and elements instructions were sufficient, the district court erred in denying defendant's instruction, because, based on the jury given jury instructions, the jury was required to first consider the victim's state of mind and decide whether she consented to the alleged acts, and if she did not consent, the jury was required to view the evidence from defendant's perspective to determine whether the manner in which the victim expressed her lack of consent was so equivocal as to cause the accused to assume that the victim consented where, in fact, she did not, and when only the unlawfulness instruction is given, the jury could convict defendant of CSP even if it found that defendant honestly and reasonably but mistakenly believed that the victim consented to the use of physical force or physical violence. Defendant was entitled to an instruction on his mistake of fact defense because his mistaken belief would negate the intent necessary to convict him for using physical force or physical violence to penetrate a person who did not have the capacity to consent. State v. Apodaca, 2021-NMCA-001, cert. granted.

Defendant was entitled to a mistake of fact instruction on tampering with evidence charge. — Where defendant was charged with two counts of criminal sexual penetration (CSP) and tampering with evidence, and where the jury was instructed that defendant was guilty of tampering with evidence if the jury found beyond a reasonable doubt that defendant destroyed, changed, or hid blood evidence by cleaning the vehicle where the alleged CSP occurred, and where the district court, claiming that the unlawfulness and elements instructions were sufficient, denied defendant's proffered instruction on mistake of fact, the district court erred in denying defendant's instruction, because if the jury were to conclude that defendant, at the time that he cleaned the vehicle, had an honest and reasonable belief that the victim had the capacity to consent to the alleged sexual acts and did consent to defendant's actions, the jury could also reasonably conclude defendant necessarily lacked the intent necessary to convict him for tampering with evidence. State v. Apodaca, 2021-NMCA-001, cert. granted.

Instruction improper where evidence showed active "aiding and abetting." — In a prosecution for attempted murder, the defendant's tendered mistake-of-fact instruction, based on his "omission to act" did not correctly state the law applicable to the case, where the evidence showed that the defendant actively "aided and abetted" the crime. State v. Johnson, 1985-NMCA-074, 103 N.M. 364, 707 P.2d 1174.

Requested instruction on mistake of fact in bank robbery properly refused. — Where the defendant knew that another was going to rob the bank, went to the bank, not to stop the robbery, but with the purpose of preventing any shooting, a requested instruction on mistake of fact was properly refused. State v. Roque, 1977-NMCA-094, 91 N.M. 7, 569 P.2d 417, cert. denied, 91 N.M. 4, 569 P.2d 414.

As in embezzlement prosecution, defendant believed he was authorized to expend public funds. — The defendant is not entitled to a mistake-of-fact instruction in a prosecution for embezzlement for using public funds belonging to his employer to pay for the travel expenses of his spouse, who is not employed by the same employer and who has not performed any public service, on the ground that he believed in good faith he was owed money by his employer, where there is no evidence that he in fact believed he possessed the legal authority to expend public funds for his spouse's travel. State v. Gonzales, 1983-NMCA-041, 99 N.M. 734, 663 P.2d 710, cert. denied, 464 U.S. 855, 104 S. Ct. 173, 78 L. Ed. 2d 156 (1983).

Refusal of mistake-of-fact instruction in child abuse case is proper because criminal intent is not required to commit child abuse, and since the accused's mental state is not essential to the crime, mistake of fact would not be a defense thereto. State v. Fuentes, 1978-NMCA-028, 91 N.M. 554, 577 P.2d 452, cert. denied, 91 N.M. 610, 577 P.2d 1256.

Deficient instructions on mistake of fact. — Although the defendant offered an inadequate instruction on mistake of fact, the doctrine of fundamental error required reversal of the defendant's embezzlement conviction, since under the given instructions, the defendant could have been convicted for innocent conduct involving the application of certain payments towards the balance allegedly due him by the alleged victim. State v. Bunce, 1993-NMSC-057, 116 N.M. 284, 861 P.2d 965.

Law reviews. — For article, "Sufficiency of Provocation for Voluntary Manslaughter in New Mexico: Problems in Theory and Practice," see 12 N.M.L. Rev. 747 (1982).

For annual survey of New Mexico law relating to criminal law, see 13 N.M.L. Rev. 323 (1983).

Am. Jur. 2d, A.L.R. and C.J.S. references. — 21 Am. Jur. 2d Criminal Law § 93.

Mistaken belief in existence, validity or effect of divorce or separation as defense to prosecution for bigamy, 56 A.L.R.2d 915.

Mistake or lack of information as to victim's age as defense to statutory rape, 8 A.L.R.3d 1100.

Criminal offense of selling liquor to minor or permitting him to stay on licensed premises as affected by ignorance or mistake regarding his age, 12 A.L.R.3d 991.

Mistake or lack of information as to victim's age as defense to statutory rape, 46 A.L.R.5th 499.

22 C.J.S. Criminal Law § 47.

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As American we have an interesting culture, one that is in fact still forming. Most of us are very individualistic by the standards of most other cultures, we are also indulgent and are focused on the short term, and we don't like uncertainty.

In other words we like to be individuals, we like to be happy, we are more concerned with how things affect us today, rather than where things are going, and we like things to be black and white to increase our sense of control and make us feel like we are doing the right thing.

Unfortunately, life isn't usually all that black and white.

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You've stated in a prior post that things have always been this way, that juries have always ruled on narrow facts rather than on the larger situation. But that's not the case. That's something that has evolved, with the best of intentions, to avoid or remove the effects of prejudice and disparity in the outcomes of jury trials. There's no free lunch and the fact that we start seeing convictions on over charged cases is an indicator of that. Juries have stopped feeling they have much control over the verdicts in court trials. At the sa,e time politics has taken on a much greater role in our court system and I don't mean red versus blue but rather processors and judges who are elected to their positions.

For example, when I was an investigator a couple of miners who were friends got into an argument over some drugs. Neither were exactly poster children but neither of them also had any prior felony convictions and the culture they came from was very much. A work hard, party hard, take no guff off anyone culture.

Unfortunately guns came out and one of the pair accidentally shot the other one in the chest and rushed him to the ER. The victim was operated on by a very competent thoracic surgeon from South Africa who had patched up about 1500 gunshot victims in his career.

Concurrently, the shooter was charged with aggravated assault. He was looking at a maximum 15 year sentence and he'd probably be out in 5. He'd also more than likely plead to that, and given the accidental nature of the shoot, he may have been sentenced to less if the victim was in agreement.

Unfortunately, the victim died in the hospital about 3 days later when someone changed a ventilator tube and managed to kill him through a medical error. The hospital should have been liable, but we can't have that can we?

Besides the state had just restored the death penalty and the prosecutor saw this an opportunity to be the first in the state to get someone on death row. So he upped the charges to first degree murder with no alternate charge. No way was the perp going to plea to that so it went to trial.

The jury convicted, but the judge failed to impose the death penalty in this situation where there clearly wasn't premeditation and sentenced him to life instead. The prosecutor wasn't happy.

However, neither were most of the jury members. They didn't feel the perp was guilty of first degree murder or even second degree murder. They were in fact unsure they'd have convicted on manslaughter given what killed the guy was medical malpractice, despite the prosecution arguing if the victim hadn't been shot he wouldn't have been in the hospital where he died of a medical error.

The problem was the jury only had two options: find him guilty or find him not guilty. But he clearly wasn't "innocent" and they didn't want him to go free, so they convicted him even though they felt the charges and minimum sentence was excessive. In reality they could have just drug things out a few days before declaring a hung jury, forcing the prosecutor to retry the individual on a lesser charge, but they as in most jury trials if you have a pretty persuasive or bullying foreman on the jury, everyone caves, and frankly the majority of members on a jury are well versed on civics or ethics.

In fact, you'll see that on grand juries as well. It might be changing recently but in the past grand jurors were in,I melt to recognize when the evidence was in sufficient to bring someone to trial. In that same state a prosecutor could either schedule a preliminary hearing to bind someone over for trial, or take the case to a grand jury. The case that went to the grand jury were always cases the prosecutor suspected any intelligent well educated judge would throw out of court due to a lack of evidence.

In the grand jury the same insufficient evidence would be submitted, but the grand jury would almost automatically issue a True Bill. The rationale was "well..the police arrested him and the states attorney is prosecuting him, so he must be guilty". The problem with that logic is that police officers will often arrest with a great deal of doubt about guilt but rely on subsequent investigations and the courts to sort it out. Similarly, most politically correct elected prosecutors are hard wired with a bias to charge and attempt to get a plea, with very few cases ever going to court. Again in the same state the incarceration rates have quadrupled in the last 40 years, with the rate of cases convicted by jury falling sharply as conviction as a result of plea bargains rose sharply. About 90% of criminal cases are plead out. It's great news for prosecutors who can present themselves as hard on crime, very effective, and thus re-electable.

Interestingly an employee of mine about a decade later recalled his service as a grand jury foreman. He was smart and assertive and he pointed out inconsistencies in evidence and weakness in cases during deliberations, with numerous cases thrown out as insufficient. More interestingly the states attorney had him removed about 3 months into the 6 month term.

In any case, the system is broken, it's been becoming increasingly broken over the last 40 years. As a result there's a guy who accidentally shot a friend of his, who was then killed by medical malpractice and instead of doing maybe 3-5 years for aggravated assault, and going back to work paying taxes as a miner, he's now doing life costing the tax payers roughly $25,000 per year.

There's also a police officer who made a mistake under extreme stress in a situation created by the victim who will be doing time for murder. If that doesn't worry police officers it should, as our courts of law have rapidly become courts of public opinion and those courts rather than upholding law and order in the manner our founding fathers intended will instead start eating our own at an ever increasing rate.

Mindless adherence to jury instructions and the letter of the law in a court system, overcome by mob sentiment, politics and procedural maneuvering wasn't what our founding fathers intended with a trial by jury. Thomas Jefferson wrote to Thomas Paine, "I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution."

Jefferson further stated that "whenever the people are well informed they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."

Unfortunately only 24% of high school seniors score as "proficient" when it comes to civics and as an uninformed culture we've devolved to a point where many of us define "ethical" as meaning it's "not illegal", with absolutely no concept of what ethics are, or the reality that ethical decision making means making the right decision in circumstances where things are not crystal clear, and where there may be conflicting interests or factors where right and wrong isn't the same as simply legal or illegal.

To be fair many of us just don't want to see our legal system in that light as we like things black and white and we like to think that we have enough control that we won't ever be subject to that kind of flawed justice. Good luck with that.
 

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