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jrm53
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I was never very high on Sam Elliot after Raylon had to shoot him when he was in Justified. Jeff
Sam Elliot is the one man my wife said she would leave me for.
Jimmy: too old to fight, too old to run.
Jimmy: too old to fight, too old to run.
Puller
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I think 1883 is better than Yellowstone so far. Faith Hill's acting skills are a little weak although I'm a big fan of her music.
sigp220.45
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I've watched the first three. Paramount Plus apparently decided to wait another week to drop the next one.
Not a show for pacifists.
Dealings with bandits and pickpockets were harsh.
Liking the show so far esp. Sidekick Sarge.
Dealings with bandits and pickpockets were harsh.
Liking the show so far esp. Sidekick Sarge.
My wife and I have seen the first 2 episodes. Like sixgun I'm not willing to pay extra for + when we already have regular Paramount. Good show so far.
prairieviper
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That is what we are doing. I expect the whole series will be on regular Paramount eventually.
Maddog 521
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I'm not paying either.
Puller
Member
I have a couple of observations from a historical context (yeah, I understand it's a Hollywood production).
The show indicates the wagon train assembles and starts the trip from the sin city of Fort Worth, Texas. I did a simple Google search of railroad maps in 1883, and they show that Fort Worth was a major railroad hub. In fact, the women of the Dutton family arrived in Fort Worth by train.
So, since they were headed to Montana, makes one wonder why they didn't utilize the railroad to get to at least Salt Lake City or Denver. They only had the one wagon so they could have easily freighted their belongings part, if not most, of the way.
I don't think cost is the issue as James Dutton (played by Tim McGraw) doesn't seem to have a cash flow issue as indicated in the first couple of episodes. Whereas, before the war, wagon train would have been THE way for pioneer families to migrate to the west and northwest, by 1883 the railroads were pretty well established and continuing to grow.
The show indicates the wagon train assembles and starts the trip from the sin city of Fort Worth, Texas. I did a simple Google search of railroad maps in 1883, and they show that Fort Worth was a major railroad hub. In fact, the women of the Dutton family arrived in Fort Worth by train.
So, since they were headed to Montana, makes one wonder why they didn't utilize the railroad to get to at least Salt Lake City or Denver. They only had the one wagon so they could have easily freighted their belongings part, if not most, of the way.
I don't think cost is the issue as James Dutton (played by Tim McGraw) doesn't seem to have a cash flow issue as indicated in the first couple of episodes. Whereas, before the war, wagon train would have been THE way for pioneer families to migrate to the west and northwest, by 1883 the railroads were pretty well established and continuing to grow.
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I distinctly remember that the Oregon Trail was officially "settled" according to my HS history book, by 1838. I took offense with that because it also said it couldn't have been done without Colt's revolvers. By 1838, Eli Whitney had only manufactured 200 revolvers under contract to Colt by then. That's a lot of work for 200 revolvers to accomplish. My HS teacher HATED that argument we had in class over this error.
I 100% agree that riverboat or railroad would have gotten them pretty darn close. I recall that someone officially declared the West "settled" by 1890. Haven't started watching yet.
I 100% agree that riverboat or railroad would have gotten them pretty darn close. I recall that someone officially declared the West "settled" by 1890. Haven't started watching yet.
I don't think we know for sure they are headed to Montana yet. The immigrants are headed to Oregon. That's been discussed.I have a couple of observations from a historical context (yeah, I understand it's a Hollywood production).
The show indicates the wagon train assembles and starts the trip from the sin city of Fort Worth, Texas. I did a simple Google search of railroad maps in 1883, and they show that Fort Worth was a major railroad hub. In fact, the women of the Dutton family arrived in Fort Worth by train.
So, since they were headed to Montana, makes one wonder why they didn't utilize the railroad to get to at least Salt Lake City or Denver. They only had the one wagon so they could have easily freighted their belongings part, if not most, of the way.
I don't think cost is the issue as James Dutton (played by Tim McGraw) doesn't seem to have a cash flow issue as indicated in the first couple of episodes. Whereas, before the war, wagon train would have been THE way for pioneer families to migrate to the west and northwest, by 1883 the railroads were pretty well established and continuing to grow.
How did he get an 85 Winchester in 83?
Can't stand Sam Elliot's views on gun control
Can't stand Tim McGraw's views on gun control
Can't stand Faith Hill's views on gun control.
Couldn't deal with the constant F-Bombs
Couldn't deal with the stupidly over the top gratuitous violence
Tuned out about the time the woman on the train started beating on the blonde girl.
Won't be back
Can't stand Tim McGraw's views on gun control
Can't stand Faith Hill's views on gun control.
Couldn't deal with the constant F-Bombs
Couldn't deal with the stupidly over the top gratuitous violence
Tuned out about the time the woman on the train started beating on the blonde girl.
Won't be back
sw44spl
Member
they do have commie views on gun issues.
And like Baldwin, they are perfectly comfortable making money making movies/shows involving guns. I think that is called a hypocrite. Or at least hypocrite-adjacent.
Puller
Member
I agree, they are hypocrites making money off of guns and violence while they espouse against both. It does not seem to bother the Hollywood crowd to do so though, so it kinda makes me say "huh?" when these people, who make a living pretending to be someone they're not, then want to preach from the bully pulpit to us common folks about social issues.
If I were to eschew products and services from those who hold different leanings and gun views than I do then I would have scant to watch, read, listen to, eat, drink, wear, drive or ride in.
