Non FFLs Can No Longer Ship Firearms with FEDEX

[Shark Bait]

I tried ShipMyGun only once and it was a frustrating failure. I never received a label. I tried calling several times but could never talk to anyone. I left a message and never heard back from them. The only positive thing was they never charged me either.

 

[johngalt]

It still must be ok according to S&W.

They emailed a Fedex shipping label 1/19, I dropped it off at Fedex 1/20. Yes, I informed them it is a firearm going back for repair.

 

[ladder13]

It still must be ok according to S&W.

They emailed a Fedex shipping label 1/19, I dropped it off at Fedex 1/20. Yes, I informed them it is a firearm going back for repair.

FedEx and S&W have a “relationship”, cheap rate for Smith, large volume for FedEx.

Last time I did a return to Smith and informed the clerk, she said “we know exactly where this is going by the address”
They must get a lot of returns.

 

[skwchock]

this is a real interesting thread .. I appreciate all the comments. I will keep the info for future reference. Thanks to all.

 

[NYlakesider]

FedEx and S&W have a “relationship”, cheap rate for Smith, large volume for FedEx.

Last time I did a return to Smith and informed the clerk, she said “we know exactly where this is going by the address”
They must get a lot of returns.

We get a lot of things delivered by UPS, USPS and FedX. Many times the driver will say something like got more ammo for you, or this comes from ______ Company. Even with plain Jane mailing procedures people that have been on the job know the other mailing/shipping address, techniques that many companies use.

 

[Puller]

It's in a box. Wrapped up. How would they know?

 

[Onomea]

I enjoy my peace and quiet too much to ship a gun illegally, no matter how small the risk of discovery.

 

[Puller]

I enjoy my peace and quiet too much to ship a gun illegally, no matter how small the risk of discovery.

I don't ship guns often so I'm pretty ignorant of the whole affair, but is it illegal or against their policy?

 

[Onomea]

I believe it is illegal. The federal law is one must declare a firearm to the shipper, I believe.

 

[ladder13]

I believe it is illegal. The federal law is one must declare a firearm to the shipper, I believe.

This ^^^^^^

I cringe when I hear things like “machine parts”, or similar. No thanks.

I bought a handgun off this forum a couple years ago. Non FFL. It was sent USPS of all places in a flat rate box.
No padding, no paperwork, no ID.

my FFL was not pleased. The FFL didn’t know to whom the gun was for. I did have tracking so I knew it was there.
I got a copy of his DL later on.

All to save a few bucks?

 

[csurp34]

Have not needed to ship anything but try this website.
Gun Shipping - Fast, Legal, Affordable

Fantastic information.


TY.

 

[ladder13]

I believe it is illegal. The federal law is one must declare a firearm to the shipper, I believe.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ract-carrier&usg=AOvVaw17EMBrSzl-1HFD0CGsciXV

 

[H Richard]

If you don't declare a firearm to the shipper the insurance if void. If anything happens to it you are just out the value.

03 FFL, (C&R), don't get any break and are treated the same as any other customer, under the same as civilian customers. There has been a movement for several years to get 03 FFL's the same status ad 01 FFL's, but no progress has been made that I have heard.

 

[Onomea]

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ract-carrier&usg=AOvVaw17EMBrSzl-1HFD0CGsciXV

 

[Beemerguy53]

It's in a box. Wrapped up. How would they know?

Shipping companies use several methods to screen packages...they have to know what's going onboard their trucks and airplanes.

That aside...if you send a package to 2100 Roosevelt Avenue in Springfield, Massachusetts, do you think the local FedEx people in Springfield won't figure out what's in it?

 

[Beemerguy53]

I enjoy my peace and quiet too much to ship a gun illegally, no matter how small the risk of discovery.

This right here... ^

There are two federal agencies I don't ever want to tangle with: one is the IRS, and the other is ATF. If they think you're trying to skirt the law, or play cutesy with their regulations, they will be on you like piranha on a steak.

 

[Rob613]

They were too expensive anyway, it was cheaper to pay my FFL to ship it USPS priority. Then if anything happened it was on the FFL and not me. But…my FFL was only $10 plus medium flat rate for a handgun.

 

[Onomea]

I think USPS rates may have gone up for FFLs, too. Don't know details, but for whatever reason the FFL I used yesterday uses UPS (and told me their $60+ shipping price was discounted!)

As I said above, my FFL in Hawaii used to charge me $10 for USPS, too. I speculate that rate is long gone for FFLs.

 

[ladder13]

I think USPS rates may have gone up for FFLs, too. Don't know details, but for whatever reason the FFL I used yesterday uses UPS (and told me their $60+ shipping price was discounted!)

As I said above, my FFL in Hawaii used to charge me $10 for USPS, too. I speculate that rate is long gone for FFLs.

There is no $10 flat rate box that a handgun will fit in, properly packaged. Medium rates start @14.25 for online, $16.10 @ the PO..

I have found most FFL’s, that I have used, prefer UPS or FEDEX because they come to the shop on a regular basis, so easy to ship.

 

[LVSteve]

So, will BATFE amend their website removing Fedex from the "common carrier" list?