Should very large handgun magazines be heavily regulated

[85V65Sabre]

NO!
Seeing that the gun used was stolen I don't see how a magazine ban would have made a difference.

 

[Bozz10mm]

Why are they even talking about the 50 round magazine? How many shots were actually fired from that Glock? I would venture to say less than 10. So how would banning large cap magazines have changed anything.

 

[pharmer]

"Didya hear, they caught a guy going 120mph through downtown where the speed limit is 35? They lowered the speed limit to 25 so it don't happen again." Joe

 

[Dave.357]

Lot of people clubbed to death,
Let's out law clubs that hold more
than 50 swings.

 

[double-dipper]

NO!

I read somewhere that the DA was asking for a life sentence for the gun and 50 round magazine.

The criminal was let out on New York's "no bail" reform law. It's clearly the "illegal" gun and magazines fault!!!! NOT!!!!

 

[handejector]

BTW-
Isn't there a 10 rd limit in New York?
If so, what good did that do?

 

[johngalt]

I'll never understand why some think that forfeiting their rights will appease the banners. Their claims of being concerned about crime and safety is just a facade. They care about neither. They want to ban guns at any cost, period. They are statists who abhor freedom and want us under their boot. Compromise is just a total ban one inch at a time.

I'll also never understand why some think criminals should be allowed to decide what rights we can have and create a lowest common denominator society.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

I guess that you are right, we should limit the people who obey the law to less rounds than those who ignore the law, same slippery slope as a firearm, when you ban a certain level of rounds, you enable the wicked to take advantage of the good. Murderers will not concern themselves with gun charges, and we cannot enforce the laws that we have and gun laws do not deter those who would kill anyway. Shall not be infringed.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Well I've got a number or 30 round Beretta 9mm mags ...... for my CX-4
PCCarbine..... but they will also fit my Beretta 92 handguns.

There are a number of PCC that take Glock mags...... 15,17,20 and 32 rounds


What about AR pistols (with arm braces) that take standard 30rd mags.
Isn't mag-pul making an AR drum mag? Looked yep 60 rd drum. $129.


Ya, we're talking use by "gang-bangers"..... with no training...... but remember how USPSA shooters use to compete with 7-8rd .45 and how fast they can reload.

What about "speed loaders"

Where do you draw the line?????

 

[WCCPHD]

Beware the slippery slope and those who would grease it!

 

[Oldfrt]

The need to remove the term "gun violence" from the national debate is one of the most important items to address. No gun has ever committed an act of violence, it is the nut behind the butt that is the problem. Hold those responsible for the act accountable under current laws (there are already lots available).

I have no personnel desire for a high capacity magazine for a handgun, mostly because I prefer an archaic revolver. I find it hard enough to carry 5 or 6 lawyers around as it is, but such is the the right of each to make their own decisions and choices.

We should all live by what I saw posted on the side of a semi "My rights don't end where your fear begins".

End soap box, I get the feeling every time I watch the news that I wasted 20 years of my life in the military.

 

[Patrick L]

I'm just sick of it. I'm as pro gun, pro second amendment as anyone. But there's just too much garbage happening in this country. Its not the fault of the guns, but the fact that we seem so willing to use them to solve all of our various problems we can't seem to deal with just makes me wonder. What is wrong with our society? Taking things away wouldn't solve a thing. But I do often wonder, why would anyone want (take your pick)?

 

[dockmurgw]

The new normal: Crime without consequence. Increasing tolerance for crime. The normalization of intolerable behavior. Meanwhile, one dimensional thinkers are stuck on magazine restrictions. And now I'll sign off before I get suspended for the umpteen millionth time.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

The tragic murder of two NYC Officers who responded to a domestic disturbance call over the weekend brought very large handgun magazines into the public eye. In this case, it was a 50 round magazine for a Glock pistol.

Personally, I never gave bump stocks too much thought, either before or after they were used in the Las Vegas mass murder a few years back.

On the other hand, to me, a 50 round magazine for a handgun seems wrong.

Assuming for the sake of argument that regulation of very large capacity handgun magazines would pass muster under the Second Amendment, and ignoring the difficulty in defining a very large magazine, I would be in favor of strict regulation of these devices. Perhaps extending felon-in-possession to include very large capacity handgun magazines.

What say the forum?

[P.S., since a 50 round magazine for a handgun is at least somewhat unusual, my guess is that the Supreme Court and the vast majority of lower courts would not overturn a law banning or restricting such devices, but let's please not debate that issue here.]

It's the CRIMINAL NOT THE TOOL........That's where your fixation should be.

 

[desi2358]

Lots of good responses here............. When you get down to basics the only appropriate answer is a firm NO!! No more stupid anti gun restrictions of any kind. None of the ones already on the books did anything to prevent this criminal from his course of crime. And it is the criminal who commits the act who is at fault. Not the law abiding citizens who suffer the consequences of stupid, pointless regulations passed by people who feel they have to "do something" even when it is clearly not going to do any good at all.

 

[John_M52]

Pulled over a couple fine citizens. 30 round Glock mag in the cup holder. No pistol. Dog hit on the car. Couldn't find anything but the car smelled like Cheech and Chong. Asked what was up with the mag. All I got was a shrug. Here's your speeding ticket, have a nice day. (mags are legal here)

 

[biku324]

I'm always taken aback when I hear Vietnam-era veterans taking up the 'slippery slope' argument.

So now we have two police officers murdered by a mutant without need to reload for 40 rounds. Anyone recall Gabby Giffords being shot by another mutant who had a Glock with 2 33-round mags? You know the shooting - he killed 6 people as well, including a 9 year-old girl. He fired 31 bullets and was stopped by victims when he dropped his second 33 round mag while reloading.

Outside the circle of firearms enthusiasts who are mistrustful of the Federal government, I doubt you'll find more than a handful of citizens who support bottomless magazines for ANY weapons. This issue, legal extremely high capacity magazines, is a loser for firearms owners over the long term.

 

[Buzzzer]

Once again, here we are with some (no offense intended) blaming an inanimate object for a crime. I have no opinion whatsoever concerning 50 round magazines other than if someone wants to buy one who cares? Lots of good points brought up here, including vehicular homicide. Concerning the parade in Waukesha, WI, recently. I don't remember seeing anyone, anywhere, recommend banning the certain vehicle the nut job used to kill so many. I mean, come on, it was a reddish color and an SUV. There are so many on the road I think we should start banning certain types of these vehicles (insert sarcasm here)...

 

[johngalt]

I'm always taken aback when I hear Vietnam-era veterans taking up the 'slippery slope' argument.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Vietname-era vets are not supposed to value preserving their civil rights?
They are not supposed to be capable of logical thought?
They are not supposed to be firearm enthusiasts?
They are supposed to subjugate themselves to the whims of politicians?
They are to be dismissed as individuals but treated as a homogeneous ethnic group, about which your assumptions may not make any sense?

So now we have two police officers murdered by a mutant without need to reload for 40 rounds.

How is that worse than any other honest citizen being murdered?

Anyone recall Gabby Giffords being shot by another mutant who had a Glock with 2 33-round mags? You know the shooting - he killed 6 people as well, including a 9 year-old girl. He fired 31 bullets and was stopped by victims when he dropped his second 33 round mag while reloading.

There are approximately 330 million people in the US. Approximately 329.9999 million didn't murder anyone. But yeah, lets let that tiny minority define our civil rights.

Outside the circle of firearms enthusiasts who are mistrustful of the Federal government, I doubt you'll find more than a handful of citizens who support bottomless magazines for ANY weapons. This issue, legal extremely high capacity magazines, is a loser for firearms owners over the long term.

What does being mistrustful of the Federal government have to do with anything? Only tin foil hat wearing militia members value our civil rights? Marginalizing us as some insignificant malcontents, so we should just roll over and give up?

 

[biku324]

There - that response is precisely how we lose firearms rights.

Think about this...are there really not 270 million people in this country today who would vote tomorrow to outlaw high cap mags? Three-quarters is the standard for amending the Constitution.

Two-thirds vote in Congress, then affirmed by 38 state legislatures.