Yes. Good basic guerrilla warfare tactics. And while they are blocked with some burning lead vehicles inflict casualties and chaos as you can.
The Russians have gone in
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Or, for you Civil War buffs, the Glorieta Pass of 2022.
Was Kuwait a NATO member?
I saw this morning that the Russian ruble is now worth exactly one cent in U.S. dollars. I betcha THAT has made Putin happy. 
I'm also sure that this pisses off the Russian people a lot, and I hope that they decide to terminate their illustrious leader.
I understand that the Russian tank column going towards Kyiv now stretches 40 miles long. I fully agree that a strike on the lead tanks makes sense tactically to stall the entire procession. Then just keep doing it as they clear obstructions. It would become a meat grinder for the Russkis.
I also understand that a large mercenary group has been deployed in Ukraine with the mission of killing Zelensky. Of course if they succeed, Putin will claim it wasn't him that was responsible. If that group succeeds, I bet it will just invigorate the Ukraine fighters.
Other news - the 13 Ukraine defenders of that Black Sea island who told the Russian warship to shove it were evidently captured, not killed. They are still heros, and I hope they live on to tell their grandchildren about the incident.
Praying for Ukraine.
John
I'm also sure that this pisses off the Russian people a lot, and I hope that they decide to terminate their illustrious leader.I understand that the Russian tank column going towards Kyiv now stretches 40 miles long. I fully agree that a strike on the lead tanks makes sense tactically to stall the entire procession. Then just keep doing it as they clear obstructions. It would become a meat grinder for the Russkis.
I also understand that a large mercenary group has been deployed in Ukraine with the mission of killing Zelensky. Of course if they succeed, Putin will claim it wasn't him that was responsible. If that group succeeds, I bet it will just invigorate the Ukraine fighters.
Other news - the 13 Ukraine defenders of that Black Sea island who told the Russian warship to shove it were evidently captured, not killed. They are still heros, and I hope they live on to tell their grandchildren about the incident.
Praying for Ukraine.
John
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bigwheelzip
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Ukrainian pilots have arrived at an airbase in Poland, to take possession of donated planes of the type they are currently trained to fly.
28 MiG-29s from Poland, 12 from Slovakia and 16 from Bulgaria, along with 14 Su-25s from Bulgaria.
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28 MiG-29s from Poland, 12 from Slovakia and 16 from Bulgaria, along with 14 Su-25s from Bulgaria.
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I just heard that Ukraine has petitioned the European Union for membership. The EU IS considering emergency admission and putting Ukraine on the EU power grid.
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We do have to keep in mind what Russia is capable of.
I suspect that the relative "restraint" which the Russian army has shown in directly attacking the cities with air and artillery has little to do with humanitarian concerns, but mostly with wanting to take over an intact country, not a heap of rubble with piles of corpses.
Besides some haphazard missile strikes, pretty few for an offensive against a large country, there were no preparatory strikes against government centers in Kyiv, the power grid, train junctions, infrastructure in general, the way we started our wars in downtown Bagdhad and Belgrade.
But instead of just waltzing in and taking over, as they had apparently hoped, now the Russian army is stuck. And they are entirely capable to set up long-range artillery and pound Kyiv and Kharkov into dust over a few days, WW II-style.
Remember what the Russians did to Grozny. Fortunately for Ukraine, they have the attention and support of the world which obscure Chechnya never got. But there may be hard days ahead.
I suspect that the relative "restraint" which the Russian army has shown in directly attacking the cities with air and artillery has little to do with humanitarian concerns, but mostly with wanting to take over an intact country, not a heap of rubble with piles of corpses.
Besides some haphazard missile strikes, pretty few for an offensive against a large country, there were no preparatory strikes against government centers in Kyiv, the power grid, train junctions, infrastructure in general, the way we started our wars in downtown Bagdhad and Belgrade.
But instead of just waltzing in and taking over, as they had apparently hoped, now the Russian army is stuck. And they are entirely capable to set up long-range artillery and pound Kyiv and Kharkov into dust over a few days, WW II-style.
Remember what the Russians did to Grozny. Fortunately for Ukraine, they have the attention and support of the world which obscure Chechnya never got. But there may be hard days ahead.
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Looks like those ruskis have really embraced low tech butchery and indiscriminate bombing of civilians. Come on Vlad, that's so 1940's.
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A trawl of Wikipedia suggests that the Ukrainian army invested heavily in artillery locating radars. If this is so and the they still have their own artillery, you have to wonder if they have been holding back on counter-battery fire to avoid collateral damage.
bigwheelzip
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I watched the EU assembly meeting today streamed live via Germany's DW News, and President Zelenskyy addressed them via video link.
The EU ministers seemed to focus on expediting material aid, and additional punitive sanctions.
While the presidents of the eastern Europe states signed a letter to support Ukraine immediately joining the EU, the ministers of the major western states do not.
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The EU ministers seemed to focus on expediting material aid, and additional punitive sanctions.
While the presidents of the eastern Europe states signed a letter to support Ukraine immediately joining the EU, the ministers of the major western states do not.
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UncleEd
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Russian expert Julia Ioffe,
whom I've cited a couple of
times in this thread, recalled
today on a morning TV show
a Russian proverb (she was
born in Russia):
"Cheer up. Tomorrow will
be worse."
whom I've cited a couple of
times in this thread, recalled
today on a morning TV show
a Russian proverb (she was
born in Russia):
"Cheer up. Tomorrow will
be worse."
I've been watching European news feeds, too. A former president of Ukraine was interviewed and asked what the point in joining the EU now, while at war, would be.
He said it would be a great morale boost, that the Ukrainians believe that they are fighting not only on behalf of their own country, but on behalf of Europe. Being admitted to the EU, now, would show the Ukrainians that they are not alone, that they are recognized as a member of the European family.
He said it would be a great morale boost, that the Ukrainians believe that they are fighting not only on behalf of their own country, but on behalf of Europe. Being admitted to the EU, now, would show the Ukrainians that they are not alone, that they are recognized as a member of the European family.
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CNN's Clarisa Ward, who stood
up to the Taliban in Afghanistan
(lot of respect for her) talked
to a Ukrainian grandmother
who had made Molotov cocktails.
The grandmother said, "Let those
Russian XXXXs come here."
She was asked how she learned to
make Molotovs and her reply was
Google, which is funny in itself
since the American company was
co-founded by Russian-born Sergey
Brin, who forsaked his homeland.
up to the Taliban in Afghanistan
(lot of respect for her) talked
to a Ukrainian grandmother
who had made Molotov cocktails.
The grandmother said, "Let those
Russian XXXXs come here."
She was asked how she learned to
make Molotovs and her reply was
Google, which is funny in itself
since the American company was
co-founded by Russian-born Sergey
Brin, who forsaked his homeland.
Apparently Russia has been stocking up on foreign curriences other than the US dollar for several years, though, which may help blunt that for a while.I saw this morning that the Russian ruble is now worth exactly one cent in U.S. dollars. I betcha THAT has made Putin happy.
Latest from BBC:
Deadly blast at Kyiv TV tower after Russia warns capital
Five people have died after Russia attacked a TV tower in Kyiv, hitting nearby broadcast facilities, Ukrainian officials say
It comes after the Russia warned residents that it was preparing to hit targets in the Ukrainian capital
It said it was planning attacks on Kyiv technology centres, urging people to stay away
A huge convoy of Russian armoured vehicles continues to advance on the city
President Zelensky of Ukraine has received a standing ovation in the European Parliament, telling them by video link: "Nobody will break us"
Freedom Square in central Kharkiv, Ukraine's second city, has been hit by a strike, killing at least 10 civilians
Five people have died after Russia attacked a TV tower in Kyiv, hitting nearby broadcast facilities, Ukrainian officials say
It comes after the Russia warned residents that it was preparing to hit targets in the Ukrainian capital
It said it was planning attacks on Kyiv technology centres, urging people to stay away
A huge convoy of Russian armoured vehicles continues to advance on the city
President Zelensky of Ukraine has received a standing ovation in the European Parliament, telling them by video link: "Nobody will break us"
Freedom Square in central Kharkiv, Ukraine's second city, has been hit by a strike, killing at least 10 civilians
Completely. Autocrats worldwide are taken aback by the whiplash against Russia.
The rouble stands at 96 to one USD. Micex remains closed. And the ICC is opening a war crimes investigation. International Criminal Court to open probe into Ukraine crisis – POLITICO
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AJ
US Veteran
Good for her. Just hope they are not fighting a losing battle. I wonder how many here would do the same?
I think when people see their own country, their own city, their own neighborhood, under attack by foreign enemies, it is human nature, for even the most mild mannered, anti-war types, to defend themselves with the most effective means available to them.
I saw an interview with a young Ukrainian woman. She was with a group of a half dozen or so women holding rifles. It looked like they were in a cellar. She was in tears while she spoke.
The interviewer asked of she knew how to use the gun. She said not really, she'd only received it a day ago and had minimal instruction.
But, she said, she would use it.
The interviewer asked her, stupidly, if she was afraid. She said of course she was, but that she would defend her country. The women with her all nodded.
It's like if you drive, trap, a mouse in a corner. Even a mouse will fight. We humans, on the whole, are no different.
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The Javelins are taking a real toll on both the T-90s and T-14s.
smithman 10
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Good to know
Are you talking about the miles long convoy everyone is referencing on TV?
Are you talking about the miles long convoy everyone is referencing on TV?
Unclear. But they've destroyed serious convoys attacking Kyiv over the past 3 days, using Javelins and drone-fired missile at bottlenecks, specifically bridges and walled intersections.
If they actually get the MiG-29/Su-25 donations from EU donor nations airborne tomorrow, the combo might just make a Russian repeat of the Iraq 'Highway of Death' of that overstretched column.
If they actually get the MiG-29/Su-25 donations from EU donor nations airborne tomorrow, the combo might just make a Russian repeat of the Iraq 'Highway of Death' of that overstretched column.
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