What's the deal with Canik?

[mattallamerican]

The CZ pattern clones I've seen use the same mags as CZ.

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what about the striker fired guns u cant find those mags

 

[LVSteve]

what about the striker fired guns u cant find those mags

Looks like Canik have suffered from the mag shortage like many others, S&W included. Rumor control says COVID closed the Mecgar factory, and the the guns rush means that they have yet to catch up.

I got a couple of extras, maybe from Greg Cote or Aimsurplus? I cannot recall.

 

[Breaker]

Check out the movie “The Mountain II” on Netflix or Prime if you want see Turkish Hardware in action.

 

[TheHobbyist]

I'd like to try one, heard good things. Local, independent FFL, whom I never worked with, had one for like $450. I contacted them, albeit during the height of the pandemic and price then became $650.00. My initial thought was a secured vehicle / camping gun.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Yeah, Ok. Go read the threads on Smith and Wessons that are being let out the door, and have been for years now.
Maybe start with this recent one ,and then the other few hundred you'll find on here describing the highly "Skilled Laborers" they employ these days. Ya know, the higher paid ones your talking about.
Problem with M&P 10mm + Customer Service Nightmare
Then go to McDonalds where the flippers get paid 18 an hour to serve slop. The American way!

Good luck with the American way. It became "Steal as much as you can from the suckers and then deny a problem"

Then try using Glock CS ( that is if you ever needed to, which is doubtful) and see how those low paid people treat you.

Remember those "Skilled laborers" at Remington...you know- the place that went Bankrupt and ruined Marlin Leverguns?

Who's making Winchester rifles these days? Do they work? Spoiler alert- Miroku- in Japan, and Yeah, they do work.

Yeah.... the American way. Beholden to the stockholders.

Wanna buy a nice Remlin?

Agreed, but being a direct shareholder of numerous large corporations, they are really beholden to the officers and directors. The shareholders only get lip service and the legally mandated crumbs that fall off the table. Still a good way for peasants like me to earn mail box money.

 

[C3Ranger]

Maybe I am late to the party. Read they were decent guns but never paid attention, until yesterday.

The Canik display at my favorite gun shop expanded. It takes up three display cases and displaced the Smith & Wesson pistols. The shop says that Canik pistols outsell Smith & Wesson, 15 to 1 these days. Canik outsells Glock but by a smaller margin. None come back to the shop with problems. So, I put my hands on a few and they seem solid. Great trigger and decocker option on some models. I like a decocker for AIWB carry.

Anyone have long-term experience with this manufacturer?

Purchased a TP9SF almost 5 years ago for use in local tactical competitions. Great trigger right out of the box. Thousands of rounds with no issues. Compares very favorably to many much more expensive and "elite" brands.

For more information, you might want to try CanikFanatikForum.com.

 

[Greyman50]

My Son bought one last year in 9 mm. Shot it when visiting him and have to say for a under $400 piece its is Way better than several “ Big Name” pistols. Trigger was good, sights were great and function was perfect. Would buy one in a “New York Minute” if buying pistols.

 

[Bald1]

Luvsmiths and Boge, u are both welcome to go work and live in Turkey where the avg factory worker makes the equivalent of $3400 American dollars a yr. And for the Record Remington Arms in NY at the moment is union…….. but union/ non union was not my point. Americans can earn a living wage as a blue collar worker. I’m one of them. And I’ll continue to support them whenever I can.

 

[Greyman50]

Todays “ Machinists” are nothing but piece, parts ,blanks( whatever it's called)changers compared to 40+ years ago. Todays machine tools only need the button pushed unless totally automated.
Todays real machinists are in the tool- die rooms of manufactures.

 

[BB57]

Ever notice that nothing cheap, and totally reliable is made in the USA?

Shame.

Luvsmiths, that’s because we have a much higher standard of living. The people building handguns are skilled laborers. They don’t work for low wages and live in poverty………. I prefer the American way.

With the global supply issue and the potential for a new Cold War in Europe, a lot of American companies are rethinking the wisdom of offshore production and globalization in general.

The good news is that can and probably will bring back a lot of manufacturing jobs, but those companies will need to pay a decent wage to both obtain and then retain skilled labor.

That will mean higher costs for products and that will be vilified as higher inflation. Unfortunately inflation isn’t well understood by most folks and is mostly regarded as a four letter word, especially by companies having to pay better wages.

The point that is missed is that when people in the US are making more money, people in the US have more money to buy US made products. When you keep money in a local community or in a single country, it turns over multiple times and drives the economy far more effectively than spending labor costs offshore and then sending profits offshore, or parking them in investor’s accounts.

What will get in the way of this move back to US based production will be decreased corporate profits in the short term, and reduced dividends for investors in the short term. We are all about the next quarterly profit statement and share value in the US and it’s an attitude that ruined companies like McDonnel Douglas, Boeing, Winchester and Remington. Our derivative income economy is a rathole we’ve been sliding down for the last 3 decades and it hasn’t been working in our national interest.

So keep an open mind.

Remember that as we try to make our economy great again that period of time when things *were* great was the mid 1950’s when the administration implemented high corporate tax rates. It worked as an incentive for corporations to reinvest profits in R&D, skilled labor retention and benefits and improved production capacity and capability, rather than paying high taxes on those profits.

Those rates fell in the 1980s with the idea that lower taxes would allow higher profits to “trickle down”, ignoring the fact it was high taxes that made it trickle down in the first place.


Most importantly as companies move toward bringing production back to the US, remember that we’ve got to make those efforts successful by buying American products, even if they cost a bit more. In the mid and long term, we’ll be much better off and much less dependent on foreign countries and world events.

 

[Catdaddy55]

I own three Caniks. A TP9sfx in whiteout, a TP9sfx in carbon and a Tp9 Rival. All are the best shooting handguns, out of the box, I have seen. I also own two M2.0's and a Shield PC 9mm EZ

 

[boykinlp]

What does a Canik SFX Rival Dark Side Semi-Auto 9mm Pistol cost in the LGS?
Larry

 

[quikdraw67]

Luvsmiths and Boge, u are both welcome to go work and live in Turkey where the avg factory worker makes the equivalent of $3400 American dollars a yr. And for the Record Remington Arms in NY at the moment is union…….. but union/ non union was not my point. Americans can earn a living wage as a blue collar worker. I’m one of them. And I’ll continue to support them whenever I can.

I thought the Illion NY plant was closed? What are they making there?

 

[NCBeagle]

Checking back in...

It seems that nearly everyone who laid hands on a Canik has enjoyed the experience. So, I'll get one or two. I like the TP9DA. It might need a grip chop for appendix carry. The TP9 Elite SC is a definite. Wish that it had a decocker too. I'll join the party some time this week.

 

[luvsmiths]

I thought the Illion NY plant was closed? What are they making there?

Shotguns I think. Union made! By skilled laborers.

 

[stanmerrell]

I too have been drawn to the Canik. The combination of low price and many features is attractive. I like the CZ pistols, so I am already comfortable with the designs.

 

[wbraswell]

I shot my cousin's Canik sub compact today at the range. Nice trigger, went bang every time. Seemed easier to hit with than his Sig 365.

 

[6string]

This is a very interesting thread, for multiple reasons.
I tried a Canik. Don't know the model, just a full size service pistol. Shot it bullseye style at 50 yds. Seemed to be reliable, and easy to shoot well.
I wanted to hate it, but didn't.

I agree with many of the posts regarding "buy American". I prefer to buy American and don't mind paying for it. But, US manufacturers have gotta deliver the goods. Yeah, it's easy to blame those "greedy execs". But, honestly, American workers aren't what they used to be. I know many business owners that can't find employees that don't slack off while on the clock or can even be counted on to show up for work, let alone do their job right. Given our lousy education system that rewards mediocrity and self-entitled attitude, all while passing everyone through with easy "A"s, this is no surprise.
It's all a big mess. Lots of blame for everyone, and rightly so. Who knows how or if it will ever get fixed?
But, I hope it does, and fast!

God help us!!

Meanwhile, how about some primers!!!!

 

[Greyman50]

This is a very interesting thread, for multiple reasons.
I tried a Canik. Don't know the model, just a full size service pistol. Shot it bullseye style at 50 yds. Seemed to be reliable, and easy to shoot well.
I wanted to hate it, but didn't.

I agree with many of the posts regarding "buy American". I prefer to buy American and don't mind paying for it. But, US manufacturers have gotta deliver the goods. Yeah, it's easy to blame those "greedy execs". But, honestly, American workers aren't what they used to be. I know many business owners that can't find employees that don't slack off while on the clock or can even be counted on to show up for work, let alone do their job right. Given our lousy education system that rewards mediocrity and self-entitled attitude, all while passing everyone through with easy "A"s, this is no surprise.
It's all a big mess. Lots of blame for everyone, and rightly so. Who knows how or if it will ever get fixed?
But, I hope it does, and fast!

God help us!!

Meanwhile, how about some primers!!!!

Sir, you “ hit the nail on the head”. I have been wondering when our dumbed down education system would ruin this Country. No wondering any more.

 

[lrrifleman]

For the past couple of years, I have had the opportunity to test fire Canik pistols in the demo bay at the Adaptive Defensive Shooting Summit. I find it to be a nice, easy shooting pistol. If I won one, I would gladly accept it, but I would not run out and buy one. Please, don't get this wrong. It's a nice pistol, but I really don't have a use for one. For combat-style shooting, I use my Glocks for GSSF (required), for the Adaptive Defensive Shooting Summit I use my Sig P320, and for PPC I use both my Sig P320 and P365. [Notice a pattern? All stationary matches!]

If I'm daring enough to trust my legs for an IDPA match, I'll most likely use a 1911 or a Glock.