I be waiting to see how this california thing with the electrishikal cars works out
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Since I won't be able to afford replacement batteries, I am going with the auxiliary pedal option. Dual of course.
Happy trails.
Happy trails.
Lee in Quartzsite
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California just issued an "Emergency Flex Alert" today because of the intense heat wave. Among the recommended recommendations is no AC and no charging of electric vehicles from 4-9 PM! Expected to continue the alert through the holiday weekend.
How do they intend to charge all of the additional EV's by 2035 as mandated by the State???
GOP leader slams CA power operator for discouraging EV charging during heatwave after vote to ban gas cars | Fox News
Californians urged to not charge their electric cars just weeks after ban on gas cars | Daily Mail Online
How do they intend to charge all of the additional EV's by 2035 as mandated by the State???
GOP leader slams CA power operator for discouraging EV charging during heatwave after vote to ban gas cars | Fox News
Californians urged to not charge their electric cars just weeks after ban on gas cars | Daily Mail Online
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venomballistics
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the car itself is pretty close to being what it needs to be. the batteries leave things to be desired.
If they could get the solid state cells in production, it might be worth it. But, charging these things is the real crusher. There is no technology waiting in the wings to address future demands.
$30,000 battery in a $10,000 car. What a deal. 
the wave of the future they say. 
The State of Kalifornia is going to have problems. The thing is, it usually spreads out from there.
If Gas Cars Are Banned, Can The Grid Handle Electric Cars? - YouTube
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Vietnamese EV carmaker is building a $2B plant in NC. They plan to sell their cars but "lease" the battery packs.
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I have thrown many battery tools away because it was
Cheaper to buy a new tool than replacement batteries.
Would probably run better with a small block Chevy
Under the hood anyway.
Cheaper to buy a new tool than replacement batteries.
Would probably run better with a small block Chevy
Under the hood anyway.
Here is another one I don't believe they have thought about.
The Truth About Electric Cars Biggest Problem - YouTube
The Truth About Electric Cars Biggest Problem - YouTube
I subscribe to the LA Times and saw the same thing. Their electrical grid can't support the current usage in times of high temps like the current forecast
So no more used cars, just the new car lot and the dump
For those of you that think electric vehicles are the answer- this is a true story from a farmer in the Midwest- and I'm reposting it-
'A close friend farms over 10,000 acres of corn in the mid-west. The property is spread out over 3 counties. His operation is a "partnership farm" with John Deere. They use the larger farm operations as demonstration projects for promotion and development of new equipment.
He recently received a phone call from his John Deere representative, and they want the farm to go to electric tractors and combines in 2023. He currently has 5 diesel combines that cost $900,000 each that are traded in every 3 years. Also, over 10 really BIG tractors.
JD wants him to go all electric soon.
He said: "Ok, I have some questions. How do I charge these combines when they are 3 counties away from the shop in the middle of a cornfield, in the middle of nowhere?" "How do I run them 24 hours a day for 10 or 12 days straight when the harvest is ready, and the weather is coming in?" "How do I get a 50,000+ lb. combine that takes up the width of an entire road back to the shop 20 miles away when the battery goes dead?"
There was dead silence on the other end of the phone.
When the corn is ready to harvest, it has to have the proper sugar and moisture content. If it is too wet, it has to be put in giant dryers that burn natural or propane gas, and lots of it. Harvest time is critical because if it degrades in sugar content or quality, it can drop the value of his crop by half a million dollars or more. It is analyzed at time of sale. It is standard procedure to run these machines 10 to 12 days straight, 24 hours a day at peak harvest time. When they need fuel, a tanker truck delivers it, and the machines keep going.
John Deere's only answer is "we're working on it." They are being pushed by the government to force these electric machines on the American farmer. These people are out of control. They are messing with the production of food crops that feed people and livestock... all in the name of their "green dream."'
John
'A close friend farms over 10,000 acres of corn in the mid-west. The property is spread out over 3 counties. His operation is a "partnership farm" with John Deere. They use the larger farm operations as demonstration projects for promotion and development of new equipment.
He recently received a phone call from his John Deere representative, and they want the farm to go to electric tractors and combines in 2023. He currently has 5 diesel combines that cost $900,000 each that are traded in every 3 years. Also, over 10 really BIG tractors.
JD wants him to go all electric soon.
He said: "Ok, I have some questions. How do I charge these combines when they are 3 counties away from the shop in the middle of a cornfield, in the middle of nowhere?" "How do I run them 24 hours a day for 10 or 12 days straight when the harvest is ready, and the weather is coming in?" "How do I get a 50,000+ lb. combine that takes up the width of an entire road back to the shop 20 miles away when the battery goes dead?"
There was dead silence on the other end of the phone.
When the corn is ready to harvest, it has to have the proper sugar and moisture content. If it is too wet, it has to be put in giant dryers that burn natural or propane gas, and lots of it. Harvest time is critical because if it degrades in sugar content or quality, it can drop the value of his crop by half a million dollars or more. It is analyzed at time of sale. It is standard procedure to run these machines 10 to 12 days straight, 24 hours a day at peak harvest time. When they need fuel, a tanker truck delivers it, and the machines keep going.
John Deere's only answer is "we're working on it." They are being pushed by the government to force these electric machines on the American farmer. These people are out of control. They are messing with the production of food crops that feed people and livestock... all in the name of their "green dream."'
John
It'll never work! Horse breeders, wagon makers and buggy whip salesmen c 1910 ;-D
UncleEd
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California grid system is antiquated and the
constant fires haven't helped.
This electric car charging delay is but a blip
in the march toward electric vehicles.
Upstart costs are always extremely high with
developing technologies. They will be overcome.
And it will be sooner than later.
constant fires haven't helped.
This electric car charging delay is but a blip
in the march toward electric vehicles.
Upstart costs are always extremely high with
developing technologies. They will be overcome.
And it will be sooner than later.
OP
CAJUNLAWYER
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That was GOOD
Heaters can lower range by 40%, a/c lowers range by 20%. Driving 75 mph lowers range by 50%. Cold weather reduces range by 20%. Total EV cars, under perfect running conditions can travel around 200 miles on a charge. This is all additive, so if running at expressway speeds on a cold winter day, you could reduce miles traveled by well over 60%. Add a couple passengers and running the heater, etc. who knows how long the batteries will last??
Plus when you need to charge your batteries, it is said to avoid rapid charging or high voltage charging when your battery is below freezing as it can damage lithium batteries. Low temperatures mean longer charging time. Here is one comment that I will have trouble convincing my wife to do!!!!
BUNDLE UP
Another very effective form of range enhancement is to bundle up: keep your coat on, and wear a hat, scarf and gloves. Yes, this is different from the warm cabin you can have within a few minutes in a gasoline car.
I am also convinced that in the not so distant future, electrical power to charge EVs will exceed the cost of liquid fuels.
Plus when you need to charge your batteries, it is said to avoid rapid charging or high voltage charging when your battery is below freezing as it can damage lithium batteries. Low temperatures mean longer charging time. Here is one comment that I will have trouble convincing my wife to do!!!!
BUNDLE UP
Another very effective form of range enhancement is to bundle up: keep your coat on, and wear a hat, scarf and gloves. Yes, this is different from the warm cabin you can have within a few minutes in a gasoline car.
I am also convinced that in the not so distant future, electrical power to charge EVs will exceed the cost of liquid fuels.
My daughter in Marina commutes daily from Marina, CA to Salinas, CA (20 mile round trip) in a 2017 Nissan Leaf. She has her home charger on a timer for 11 PM Saturday to 8 AM Sunday to get off-peak rates. They figure her total monthly commute costs them between $40-$60 in increased electric bills, but that's offset by their solar panels installed a couple of years ago.
They've had no problems of any kind.
They've had no problems of any kind.
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A month or so ago I flew out to San Diego for horses running at Del Mar. The Indian gentlemen that was our Uber Driver had an early model Toyota EV. When I changed from my sunglasses to my regular glasses, I noticed the vehicle had almost 500,000 miles on the electric odometer read out. I was impressed and started quizzing him about the vehicle.
He drove it 250,000 miles without a hitch or repair other than changing tires. He then had to replace the battery pack—I believe he said it was about $7 to $10K and he has driven off into the sunset rolling up to nearly 500,000 miles. He said the replacement battery pack he bought is a big upgrade and improvement in quality over his original battery pack and should last a lot longer.
He said that he thought the biggest impediment to EV's will be no/few Americans want to put 500k miles on a car and keep it for years! We want a new vehicle about each model year! He confided his wife and son had traded multiple times over the course of his EV's ownership.
I was impressed with his story and the vehicle. Interestingly enough, every Uber we had during a week in San Diego was an EV. My first time riding in them. Mostly Tesla's. I think EV's are much more common in Cali than here in F-150, flyover land.
He drove it 250,000 miles without a hitch or repair other than changing tires. He then had to replace the battery pack—I believe he said it was about $7 to $10K and he has driven off into the sunset rolling up to nearly 500,000 miles. He said the replacement battery pack he bought is a big upgrade and improvement in quality over his original battery pack and should last a lot longer.
He said that he thought the biggest impediment to EV's will be no/few Americans want to put 500k miles on a car and keep it for years! We want a new vehicle about each model year! He confided his wife and son had traded multiple times over the course of his EV's ownership.
I was impressed with his story and the vehicle. Interestingly enough, every Uber we had during a week in San Diego was an EV. My first time riding in them. Mostly Tesla's. I think EV's are much more common in Cali than here in F-150, flyover land.
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