Model 1911 Carry

[USMCshooter]

ALL of my carry weapons are carried CONDITION 1 in proper holsters.

 

[Imissedagain]

Cocked and locked.
Bianchi X15
1911s as well as P238s and Mustangs.
Our latest Steel is Real.

Made the Officer 8+1
McCormicks and an adaptor.

As long as we're here, M59 and PPKs are carried safety/decocker off and round in chamber.

 

[keith44spl]

BUT I see you have a strap between the frame and hammer. The strap between the hammer and frame takes the safety factor up several levels.
When I younger I carried my Colt with the barrel loaded and the hammer down and cocked it on the draw like on a SA revolver. My hand won't do that now so I went to a P220 Sig. Larry

Larry,
I do favor a retention strap between the hammer and frame.

Sometimes, I carry cocked, unlocked with the grip safety pinned down.

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[Eric300]

What holster is that ?

JimmyJ it looks like Eric300's holster is a Galco Combat Master

It may look like a Galco CM, but it's not. It is actually a MASC International product, which in my opinion, are superior to Galco products. They are a Turkish based company and make some damn fine handcrafted holsters and other firearms related leather products using top quality leather and excellent craftsmanship, at reasonable prices. They are distributed out of Navada, USA.

Mascholster - Leather Gun Holsters

 

[Grayfox]

This 1959 Colt Commander in .45acp has been my primary carry for some 30 years now. Always cocked & locked.

 

[OLDSTER]

If I feel like carrying a heavy pistol concealed ( I never carry open ), I carry my Detonics Combat Master. Designed to be carried condition two, and that's how I carry.

 

[Mainsail]

Always

Sig Nightmare Carry in Lobo leather

 

[31FordA]

I've carried my Colt's cocked & locked since I first started carrying them 25 years ago. In all that time I have never had a problem.

 

[zeke]

yes and the ones used for cc have colt mil-spec thumb safety's

 

[SuperMan]

From what I have read, the 1911 was made to be carried in Condition III, hammer down, empty chamber, by the military. It was only to be put into Condition I when contact was "imminent" or after contact before it was safe to clear the gun.

One of the modifications made before it was adopted by the Army, who still had a lot of horse cavalry, was the firing pin stop. Originally it was square bottomed...the Army asked if the slide could be made easier to cycle for the horse back riders and that led to the adoption of the radiused FPS and I believe a lower weight mainspring...which is probably why the 1911 in stock form kicks more than is often modified to...

On a side note...my bet is that the Glock was made to be carried the same way. Gaston Glock was not a gun person...he was an inventor trying to get a military contact. Have not been able to confirm this, but my guess is that the Austrian military carries their handguns in Condition III just like the Israelies do so no consideration was given to the gun being carried continuously with a round in the chamber...

Bob

 

[oink]

It's the only way I carry one but I never carry my full size concealed, just officers model size. The big one is just a range toy now.

 

[Greyman50]

IIRC, the First " firing pin block" was the "Swartz device"used during the 1920's. For purest 1911 guys it faired no better than the Series 80's " firing pin block". Individuals that are not "proficient " with 1911's possibly should carry another pistol or revolver. There are many out there.

 

[AJ]

IIRC, the First " firing pin block" was the "Swartz device"used during the 1920's. For purest 1911 guys it faired no better than the Series 80's " firing pin block". Individuals that are not "proficient " with 1911's possibly should carry another pistol or revolver. There are many out there.

There is an article in an late '80's Guns & Ammo Annual called "The Cult of the Colt". In it the author writes that if he sees some one carrying in condition one that, that person is very competent or uninitiated. Will have to dig it out.

 

[dave1918a2]

Yes. All the time.

 

[LEO918]

Yes Sir.....

 

[growr]

If condition 1 is a 1911 carried cocked and locked, then I agree. Have been doing it that way was since 1980 so I am kinda new at this....Same with my Browning Hi Power.

Is there any other way?

Randy

 

[AJ]

Found it, the article is by Jan Libourel. His statement is as follows:

"Thus, if I see a man packing a customized Colt auto cocked and locked, I realize that I may be in the presence of a very knowledgeable and fine pistol shot. On the other, there is also an excellent chance that our hero is a hot-air artist, who is not vey competent with his over-accessorized toy or any other handgun, for that matter."

This is from a 1989 Guns & Ammo Annual. It is a very good article to say the least.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Always

Sig Nightmare Carry in Lobo leather

That is a fine looking Enhanced Pancake Model with thumb-break retention. You can just call me modest for noticing my design work.

 

[Shark Bait]

The firing pin stop was incorporated into the 1911 design long after the Army adopted it and none of the military 1911s had them. Series 70 guns are like the military version internally and do not have it. The firing pin stop is in the series 80 guns. Or did I miss something significant, somewhere?

 

[Benton Quest]

I find it odd that we are still having this conversation.

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