Type 3 Factory Engraved Triple Lock Revolver

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Here’s a Type 3 factory engraved Triple Lock revolver. It letters as such, although the engraver is not identified. It letters as presented—blued finish, 5” barrel, checkered trigger—with the exception of the mother of pearl stocks. The letter lists as checkered walnut gold medallion stocks. Likely changed out at the distributor. Shipped to the Powell & Clement Company, Cincinnati, Ohio, 27 March 1914. What is not mentioned is what is engraved on the backstrap: “H. E. B’HYMER, M.D.”. No doubt this was this individual:

U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current - Ancestry.com

Shipped a few weeks before Homer Ellsworth B’Hymer’s 39th birthday. Powell & Clement, being in Cincinnati, is about 15 miles from White Tower, Kenton County, Kentucky, where the good doctor resided. Perhaps this was a gift? Incidentally, the only reference to H. E. B’Hymer being a doctor is that which is engraved on the backstrap.

Now, here is where it gets interesting, and I start to hypothesize. The engraving, to me, appears to be that of Oscar Young. The SCSW4 states that Oscar Young worked for Smith & Wesson until 1916. This is clearly in error. Oscar Young died 30 June 1912. Oscar Young (1854-1912) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

However, I’m smart enough to realize that even headstones can contain faulty information. For example, my own great great grandfather, H P Collins, is buried beneath a stone that gives a date of birth of 1869–7 full years after he was really born. Lest there be any confusion, census records confirm he was really born in 1862. So, a call to the Vital Statistics department of the City of Springfield Massachusetts on Monday confirms he did in fact pass away 30 June 1912, nearly 21 months before this revolver actually was shipped. Cause of death: Valvocard. Heart disease and cerebral hemorrhage , chronic. Today, we would call this valvular heart disease, congestive heart failure. (Of course, cerebral hemorrhage would be acute). Signs of valvular heart disease include chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigu…. Valvular Heart Disease | cdc.gov

So, if one had a Triple Lock one wanted engraved at the factory, what other option was there other than Oscar Young? None come to mind, and, to me, this looks like classic Oscar Young work. A most esteemed member of this forum, who shall remain anonymous, unless he wishes to respond, agrees this is likely the work of Oscar Young, but it took him awhile to come to this conclusion. Simply put, the engraving of this revolver has some stylistic differences and is not quite the quality one comes to expect of Oscar Young.

And here’s a bit more hypothesizing. I’m guessing that Oscar Young was the staff engraver at Smith & Wesson up to his death, or shortly before. If an order came in for a revolver to ship with custom engraving, that was done rather promptly. I have read on the Colt forum that the work of engravers included making dies for barrel addresses, etc, and this would have been done as needed, outside of current orders requiring factory engraving prior to shipment. And yet more hypothesizing: The number of revolvers requiring engraving prior to shipment—e.g., the “demand”, was less than Oscar Young’s output—e.g., the “supply”. So I’m guessing that when Oscar Young did not have a specific order, being the house engraver for Smith & Wesson, he engraved styles that would be most in demand for future sale, this being Type 3 engraving. And, when an order came in for an engraved Triple Lock revolver, it was ready to ship promptly—months or years after the engraving work was done.

Now, back to the observation by esteemed Smith & Wesson forum member, this member being far more knowledgeable than I could ever hope to be. Could it be that this is the last revolver that Oscar Young engraved, and the quality isn’t exemplary, as, at the time of engraving, Oscar Young was fatigued, had shortness of breath, just wasn’t feeling up to snuff? The fact that it shipped a season shy of 2 years after Oscar Young succumbed to these diseases suggests, at the very least, this certainly was one of the last revolvers engraved by Oscar Young.

As for the personalization of the backstrap, engraved with the new owner’s name, that was clearly done after Oscar Young’s demise. Possibly done at Smith & Wesson, but, as the letter doesn’t mention this, I think this is less likely. My guess is that it was done either at the Powell & Clement Company or even at the local jewelers.

As we all want to learn on this forum, feel free to support, modify, or simply bash any and all of my hypotheses.

Despite any criticisms of this revolver, real or imagined, in this post, it’s still simply a fabulous Triple Lock revolver!
 

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And a few more photographs.
 

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What a neat gun! Is it yours?
I know nothing about engravers, but I know I haven’t seen many engraved triple locks! Is the top of the hammer engraved too?
With how S&W shipped guns, the timeline you portray certainly seems possible….
Perhaps a comparison of ship dates CLOSE to the serial number of this gun may provide a clue as to when the gun was made vs shipped. So, if S&W manufactured guns in serial order (which seems likely to me) and a gun with a close serial number AFTER this one shipped a couple of years before this one, that would seem to support your hypothesis of the gun being engraved at the factory years prior and waiting for a buyer.
 
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What a neat gun! Is it yours?
I know nothing about engravers, but I know I haven’t seen many engraved triple locks! Is the top of the hammer engraved too?
With how S&W shipped guns, the timeline you portray certainly seems possible….
Perhaps a comparison of ship dates CLOSE to the serial number of this gun may provide a clue as to when the gun was made vs shipped. So, if S&W manufactured guns in serial order (which seems likely to me) and a gun with a close serial number AFTER this one shipped a couple of years before this one, that would seem to support your hypothesis of the gun being engraved at the factory years prior and waiting for a buyer.

The top of the hammer is not engraved.

The serial number of this revolver is 1855.
 

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All records located indicate that Oscar died in 1912. Gravestone, Ancestry records, and most importantly, Roy Jinks book Artistry in Arms, 1991. On page 71 is an image of the Youngs, stating that Oscar died in 1912. The book states that Oscar spent 22 years engraving for S&W, with some of the most important work being guns at the 1893 Chicago Exhibition.

Eugene Young lived until 1924 and did engraving for 10 years with S&W. This could be your guy. That engraving is almost certainly factory, being a standard design offering for many years. I suppose someone post-factory could have copied the factory standard engraving patterns, but unlikely in this instance.

Bottom line is that you have just too many suppositions that are not supported by provenance or documentation. It is a good story and may be accurate, but is, at best, a great guess at what happened.

I think a quick call to Springfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts, will uncover his death record. Certainly worth the time to get hold of a copy of his death certificate.
 

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I did call the Vital Statistics department in Springfield Massachusetts and they confirmed that Oscar Young died in 1812.

It is factory work, as the letter confirms that.

It might be the work of Eugene Young, but esteemed forum member thought it was the work of Oscar, with the caveats described above.

I don’t think Eugene Young worked for Smith & Wesson in the 1914 time frame, but maybe?
 
. . . I don’t think Eugene Young worked for Smith & Wesson in the 1914 time frame, but maybe?

Cannot find the years he worked with the company, but his early years were associated with him working in the Elgin Watch Company in Chicago. He did not die until 1924 and died in Springfield, MA so likely was working for S&W in later years. I cannot see how anyone could identify standard factory engraving as belonging to any one of the three Youngs. All were seasoned engravers, capable of coming up with the same styles and same quality work. Apparently, Gustav, Oscar, nor Eugene signed their work. I read that there may only be a few examples of Gustave's signed work around.

I just found a 2017 thread about the Youngs. One comment was of particular interest: Eugene started to engrave for S&W some time after Oscar had started, and worked for S&W around the turn of the century, and after Oscars death.

The Engraved Smith and Wessons of the Young family
 
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Cool gun! Looks as though the good doctor carried and used it regularly. Even some extra "engraving" near the sideplate logo from a holster. :)
 
Nice snag and an interesting Triple Lock !

I have a well used and heavily carried 4" Nickel Triple Lock, serial #2486. It letters as being shipped May 13, 1912. I know they may or may not have been built chronologically, but if so, you could reason that yours could have been built sometime in 1911 and not shipped until an order came up for an engraved gun.

It will be interesting to see other serial numbers and their shipdates.

Tim
 

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Interestingly, this very sane revolver surfaced on this forum back in 2007.

Triple Lock-Engraved

The OP of that thread strongly suggests the stocks were those with gold medallions, but how trustworthy he is is debatable, as he didn’t even know the stocks were walnut. Presumably he did not confuse this revolver with another one as mother of pearl is difficult to confuse with walnut.

ALL N frame mother of pearl stocks are not factory. MOST were fitted at the distributor. If the OP of the attached thread is correct, then the mother of pearl stocks are not distributor fitted. But I like how they fit.

My understanding is that this Triple Lock revolver is ex the estate of Larry Gaertner.

I’m inclined to leave as-is. The option is to fit with medallion walnut stocks, to match the letter. However, it’s even possible—maybe MORE possible—that this revolver was assembled prior to mid 1910, in which case non medallion stocks would be more historically accurate.

Thoughts?
 
Was your G G G Grandfather, H.P. Collins, the Baltimore gun dealer?
 
I checked the 1930 census records and Homer Ellsworth B’HYMER was a 54 year old farmer.

Wonder why the MD was engraved on the TL? A joke perhaps?

Can you check the 1910 and 1920 census data and see what it says, as those dates are closest to 1914, when this revolver shipped? Individuals do change occupations, of course.

It’s also possible the M.D. is an abbreviation for something else. Medical Doctor is the most likely what it stands for, but there are other more obscure possibilities as well.
 
Okay, I defer to those more knowledgeable than I!

I asked on the private side Dr Jinks’ opinion, and he believes it’s either Eugene Young or early Harry Jarvis work.

Like most theories, mine doesn’t hold much water.

I truly value the opinions of those much more knowledgeable than I and I learn so much on this forum…each and every day.
 
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