It gets -30 in the winter, if the buffalo don't gore
you the bears will maul you and the women don't take any guff from men
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It gets -30 in the winter, if the buffalo don't gore
you the bears will maul you and the women don't take any guff from men
I had my FFL thru those years that the ammo log was necessary.
During that time, only once was I contacted by the ATF about any sale of a certain type of ammunition to anyone.
That was when the Son of Sam (David Berkowitz) shootings were going on in NYC in the 70's.
They wanted to know of any sales of Win/Western brand 44spcl ammo.
Other than that, it was a log book of no use.
During that time, only once was I contacted by the ATF about any sale of a certain type of ammunition to anyone.
That was when the Son of Sam (David Berkowitz) shootings were going on in NYC in the 70's.
They wanted to know of any sales of Win/Western brand 44spcl ammo.
Other than that, it was a log book of no use.
It is called Big Sky Country for a good reason. I would suggest that anyone that is thinking about moving there drive across the State first. It is a bit lonely. Montana is the 48th least populated State per mile.
As brutal as Kansas winters are they don’t compare to the northern States. I sure love the open country though.
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-30 in the winter, yeah, that's why I don't live up in the north.
-30 in the winter, yeah, that's why I don't live up in the north.
Wimpy talk. I live in this country..I lived in Md. Where you wear your weather. Like Va. The average temps here are essentially the same as back there but no 90% humidity here. Yep we hit 100 every now and then. With 3% humidity...and about 60 at night.You can dress for the cold...but only take your clothes off in the summer sweltering back east.Y'all stay there though. 95 yesterday 59 at 0530 No AC needed
It helps if you like cold weather. Summers are short as winters are long.
I think Kansas is one of the worst states to live in weather wise. Last winter we had temperatures down to zero with wind chill of -20’s. This summer we have had 20 days of 100+ degree days and a lot of 90 - 100 degree days. (The hottest day here was 109 degrees). Last week there were days of no wind and the dust from the roads just hunge suspended in the air. The humidity and dew point has been high. Many mornings there was heavy dew on the grass and weeds. It was oppressive to even go outside.
But I will confess to being wimpy in extreme cold. Below freezing temperatures can kill a person quickly. The heat seems to slow cook us.
I think Kansas is one of the worst states to live in weather wise. Last winter we had temperatures down to zero with wind chill of -20’s. This summer we have had 20 days of 100+ degree days and a lot of 90 - 100 degree days. (The hottest day here was 109 degrees). Last week there were days of no wind and the dust from the roads just hunge suspended in the air. The humidity and dew point has been high. Many mornings there was heavy dew on the grass and weeds. It was oppressive to even go outside.
But I will confess to being wimpy in extreme cold. Below freezing temperatures can kill a person quickly. The heat seems to slow cook us.
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I don't think muck of wind chill numbers.Nobody stands in the wind when it's cold
Starting your car at 10f is the same even if the wind chill makes it feel like -20. Starting it at a true -20 is more problematic and it will take longer for it to warm up the cab. When younger in oilfield I have worked outside in real -43. The hard part is getting dressed for it and actually doing anything wearing enough cloths. Long johns wool pants and shirt, vest full length insulated coveralls over that and good pacs or even better what we called Mickey Mouse boots
Even at 72 I still own and wear full length insulated coveralls and have White's airbob insulated liner boots and have extra sets of liners even though I avoid real cold.
The south can have their warm winters because their humidity sucks the life out of me can't stand it and can't dress to fix it
Starting your car at 10f is the same even if the wind chill makes it feel like -20. Starting it at a true -20 is more problematic and it will take longer for it to warm up the cab. When younger in oilfield I have worked outside in real -43. The hard part is getting dressed for it and actually doing anything wearing enough cloths. Long johns wool pants and shirt, vest full length insulated coveralls over that and good pacs or even better what we called Mickey Mouse boots
Even at 72 I still own and wear full length insulated coveralls and have White's airbob insulated liner boots and have extra sets of liners even though I avoid real cold.
The south can have their warm winters because their humidity sucks the life out of me can't stand it and can't dress to fix it
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I try not to stand still while outdoors. Livestock have to be taken care of. It sure feels colder when there is a brisk north wind. Stepping out of the wind in the barn helps to the feeling back in fingers and toes.
I love the open country but Montana and the Dakotas are to cold for me.
Lied on a 4473? Keep your mouth shut.
Hunter who? Michigan man sentenced to year in prison for owning guns while using marijuana – Bearing Arms
Hunter who? Michigan man sentenced to year in prison for owning guns while using marijuana – Bearing Arms
I realize it effects livestock
In highschool I spent my weekends feeding cattle. I see a whole lot more windbreak barriers set up in winter pastures nowadays. They don't have to load hay trucks or pellets now, back up to a big round bale and hydraulic it onto bed, load a second on arms then go roll them out. Pellets spread from a hopper. Water tanks don't need coal fire restarted as they all have electric emersion heaters. I was talking about personal living.
In highschool I spent my weekends feeding cattle. I see a whole lot more windbreak barriers set up in winter pastures nowadays. They don't have to load hay trucks or pellets now, back up to a big round bale and hydraulic it onto bed, load a second on arms then go roll them out. Pellets spread from a hopper. Water tanks don't need coal fire restarted as they all have electric emersion heaters. I was talking about personal living.
This is a little confusing. He was convicted of LYING about his use of maryjane on the 4473 form.
So does that mean he could legally buy a gun through a private purchase. How would State law apply in States that have legalized maryjane?
As the article says the Hunter Biden case is causing a lot of problems with lying on the 4473.
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OK, one last time. Marijuana is NOT, I repeat NOT legal. Just because a state says its fine with them, the FEDERAL government, which covers everywhere, says its an illegal, controlled substance. PERIOD.
Currently, the federal government looks the other way at these tiny little state rebellions. However, I guraandamtee you that if a state says "Murder is legal" the federral government will correct that false belief immediately.
Do you think if Idaho says you can have all the plutonium you want, there won't be someone knocking at your door?
Currently, the federal government looks the other way at these tiny little state rebellions. However, I guraandamtee you that if a state says "Murder is legal" the federral government will correct that false belief immediately.
Do you think if Idaho says you can have all the plutonium you want, there won't be someone knocking at your door?
Don’t know anything of MI law on private sales. Do they have to go through an FFL?
I don’t see a groundswell of support to change/eliminate the 4473 wording.
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The Hunter case is causing a lot of attention in large part because he is fact being targeted for something for which most folks never get investigated, let alone prosecuted. Although I dislike most of the upper level of politicians, think very poorly of them, and wish them as much bad luck as possible, from an objective view point, Hunter is getting treated a lot worse than most. (Watch how you respond, as this could easily go political ...)
Except the charge against Hunter is not about illegal use of a Federally controlled drug. Actually being a drug user is not a crime. Drug and alcohol addiction is considered to be a medical disease. It is only when being caught in possession of a controlled drug that is considered to be a crime.
“These tiny little state rebellions” are based on the 10th Amendment.
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No, Hunter is charged with lying on a 4473, and for violating 18USC 922g3 18 U.S. Code SS 922 - Unlawful acts | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
"(g) It shall be unlawful for any person—"
"(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));"
there is a seperate law that says if you lie about drug use so you can get a firearm, it is itself another felony. Total time for him could theoretically be 25 years for 3 felonies, and well over a quarter mil in fines. I don't know the USC number for the second lying about drug use to get a firearm felony.
Not that it will happen though.
The upcoming Rahimi SCOTUS case is about these 922g restrictions. He was charged under 922g8. But that was a CIVIL charge, not a criminal court case. And among other things, in a CIVIL case, he didn't have access to a court appoointed defense attorney, so he waived everything. (yes, he was/is a dirtbag, but he still has Rights, until they are taken away in a CRIMINAL court)
"(g) It shall be unlawful for any person—"
"(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));"
there is a seperate law that says if you lie about drug use so you can get a firearm, it is itself another felony. Total time for him could theoretically be 25 years for 3 felonies, and well over a quarter mil in fines. I don't know the USC number for the second lying about drug use to get a firearm felony.
Not that it will happen though.
The upcoming Rahimi SCOTUS case is about these 922g restrictions. He was charged under 922g8. But that was a CIVIL charge, not a criminal court case. And among other things, in a CIVIL case, he didn't have access to a court appoointed defense attorney, so he waived everything. (yes, he was/is a dirtbag, but he still has Rights, until they are taken away in a CRIMINAL court)
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Since you have access to the statutes and 4473;
Does the question on the 4473 ask if you are a habitual user?
Then does it still say in the instructions for answering the question that it is for the last 12 months?
Does this Federal Statute bar possession of firearms if the person is a user of a illegal or controlled substance?
Does the Federal Statutes bar buying, trading for or acquiring a firearm(s) while a user of illegal or controlled substances through a private transaction from a non-ffl holder?
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"Does this Federal Statute bar possession of firearms if the person is a user of a illegal or controlled substance?"
yes, yes it does 18USC 922g3 "(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));"
"Does the Federal Statutes bar buying, trading for or acquiring a firearm(s) while a user of illegal or controlled substances through a private transaction from a non-ffl holder? " same answer, since you can't OWN them, you can't BUY them under any combination of circumstances.
They called out that 12 months because that is part of the specific deffinition. If you quit 10 months ago, no, you can't legaly buy/own. If it was 2 years ago, yes. If you were convicted, potentially, never, because that's a felony, and a different law entirely.
you can look all this up for yourself.
And Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act, which, among other things, authorized the DEA to classify marijuana as a controlled substance. If we agree or not is irrelevant. Anyway, that is a FEDERAL decision, and Congross voted that authority to the DEA. It is not a decision for individual states, so the 10A doesn't apply. The Feds just let the states slide. Walk into a Federal courthouse smoking a bong and let me know how that works out for you. Better yet, grow pot in a National Park.
My partner's son lives with us, and smokes medical marijuana for his Crohn's. He is the sole reason I don't have a FFL. They smell the pot downstairs, and I'll never get my home license, even if I'm not a user. It's here in the home. Its still against the law.
yes, yes it does 18USC 922g3 "(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));"
"Does the Federal Statutes bar buying, trading for or acquiring a firearm(s) while a user of illegal or controlled substances through a private transaction from a non-ffl holder? " same answer, since you can't OWN them, you can't BUY them under any combination of circumstances.
They called out that 12 months because that is part of the specific deffinition. If you quit 10 months ago, no, you can't legaly buy/own. If it was 2 years ago, yes. If you were convicted, potentially, never, because that's a felony, and a different law entirely.
you can look all this up for yourself.
And Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act, which, among other things, authorized the DEA to classify marijuana as a controlled substance. If we agree or not is irrelevant. Anyway, that is a FEDERAL decision, and Congross voted that authority to the DEA. It is not a decision for individual states, so the 10A doesn't apply. The Feds just let the states slide. Walk into a Federal courthouse smoking a bong and let me know how that works out for you. Better yet, grow pot in a National Park.
My partner's son lives with us, and smokes medical marijuana for his Crohn's. He is the sole reason I don't have a FFL. They smell the pot downstairs, and I'll never get my home license, even if I'm not a user. It's here in the home. Its still against the law.
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Careful there RacerX. You could be admitting to committing a Federal crime by allowing maryjane in your home using Legal Concept of Constructive Possession.
But if so you are in good company. According to the CDC stats dated October 20, 2022 13% of persons aged 12 and over have used illicit drugs in the last month. (I know this is old data but there is no reason to believe that the number of people using illegal drug use has changed significantly). I personally think the number is higher if they include prescription drugs.
I do see this as a 10A issue. If enough people through their State Government convince their legislators to pass legalization of pot then their Federal Representatives and Senators will be under pressure to support the legalization of marijuana. IMO the only reason some States have not totally legalized marijuana is to avoid loss of Federal Grants and money.
Anyway getting off track. I pretty much knew the answers I just want to pass along information to the forum members.
But if so you are in good company. According to the CDC stats dated October 20, 2022 13% of persons aged 12 and over have used illicit drugs in the last month. (I know this is old data but there is no reason to believe that the number of people using illegal drug use has changed significantly). I personally think the number is higher if they include prescription drugs.
I do see this as a 10A issue. If enough people through their State Government convince their legislators to pass legalization of pot then their Federal Representatives and Senators will be under pressure to support the legalization of marijuana. IMO the only reason some States have not totally legalized marijuana is to avoid loss of Federal Grants and money.
Anyway getting off track. I pretty much knew the answers I just want to pass along information to the forum members.
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