Thieves. I hate thieves!

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I ordered a couple of stuff sacks on eBay. $15 for the pair.

I get UPS tracking and an ETA of 10/10, yesterday. I checked it again this past Saturday and still the ETA of 10/10.

Sunday rolls around and I'm in and out all day long.

Monday, no mail. But I notice that my mail box was slightly open...

Tuesday I get a couple of packages, but no pouches. I check tracking and it says delivered on SUNDAY on the porch(!). Never happened. I'm guessing, the delivery guy stuffed it in the mailbox and someone took it and didn't close it all the way.

I try the file a claim and UPS says I can't because USPS did the final delivery(!)

I'm guessing the drugged out zombies in the area did some shopping in mailboxes and cars.

(sigh)

 

[Nevada Ed]

If caught;

they can do 5 years in a Federal pen or have to pay, a $250,000 fine.

Get er done !!

 

[LoboGunLeather]

If caught;

they can do 5 years in a Federal pen or have to pay, a $250,000 fine.

Get er done !!

Possible, yes. Likely? Not even remotely.

I seriously doubt that a US Postal Inspector would spend the time to mount an investigation, and the US Attorney's Office would laugh at the idea of committing the staff time to prosecute such a case.

With a couple of credible eye-witnesses, positive identification of the perpetrator(s), a bored municipal court prosecutor might be persuaded to file a petit theft complaint, and a tearful spontaneous confession in the courtroom might result in a referral to a diversion program and a short term of unsupervised probation. All of that is conditional on your local police department bothering to respond to a minor theft complaint and actually complete a simple report, not something to be taken for granted these days.

As long as serious consequences are removed from the equation people will continue committing criminal acts. When getting caught involves nothing more than participation in the catch-and-release program, why worry?

 

[Wdbutcher97]

I hate thieves and liars. Sadly I believe we have more of them every day. Sorry, I almost forgot, I really dislike politicians too.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

I hate thieves and liars. Sadly I believe we have more of them every day. Sorry, I almost forgot, I really dislike politicians too.

Actually, I think the first two groups you mentioned were vast and inclusive. Of course, we never mention politics here on the forum.

 

[Super Trucker]

A doorbell camera and several regular mounted cameras are what I recently purchased due to what the OP posted.

Since the old fashioned way of catching them is no longer working we must move to modern ways.

My mailbox is no longer on the front of the house, its on a post in front of the porch so the doorbell camera will have it and the porch in its view once I get get it mounted.

I watched sale prices on the cameras and see that the model I selected is being replaced by the next newer model so I got them for 1/3 the price they were 6 months ago and then it will be $10 a month for the cloud service to store the videos they all record.

I hope this idea might help someone else might help someone else not be a victim.

 

[smoothshooter]

Possible, yes. Likely? Not even remotely.

I seriously doubt that a US Postal Inspector would spend the time to mount an investigation, and the US Attorney's Office would laugh at the idea of committing the staff time to prosecute such a case.

With a couple of credible eye-witnesses, positive identification of the perpetrator(s), a bored municipal court prosecutor might be persuaded to file a petit theft complaint, and a tearful spontaneous confession in the courtroom might result in a referral to a diversion program and a short term of unsupervised probation. All of that is conditional on your local police department bothering to respond to a minor theft complaint and actually complete a simple report, not something to be taken for granted these days.

As long as serious consequences are removed from the equation people will continue committing criminal acts. When getting caught involves nothing more than participation in the catch-and-release program, why worry?

There will be no prosecution.

 

[YeshuaIsa53]

There are soooo many different kinds of thieves, but there are also so many different kinds of neighbors watching out for each other.

 

[Rustyt1953]

In the last ten years my home (I no longer live in that neighborhood) was burglarized twice.

The feeling of violation still gnaws at me.

 

[sigp220.45]

I used to work cases with a Postal Inspector and his mantra was "once its delivered, it isn't mail anymore".

I don't know if that's true or just something to get people off the phone, but it worked.

 

[Wdbutcher97]

I hate thieves and liars. Sadly I believe we have more of them every day. Sorry, I almost forgot, I really dislike politicians too.

Sorry, I guess I was being redundant.

 

[Heinz]

I hate thieves and liars. Sadly I believe we have more of them every day. Sorry, I almost forgot, I really dislike politicians too.

you are repeating yourself

 

[Bald1]

I think some light should be shined on the delivery driver that said he put it on the porch. If he put it in mailbox, that's not on the porch. If he put it on porch there's probably a picture of it. All my delivery guys take pics. I've watched them. If it was stolen from the mailbox it's the result of someone not doing their job.

 

[norm]

I hate thieves and liars. Sadly I believe we have more of them every day. Sorry, I almost forgot, I really dislike politicians too.

pretty much the same thing

 

[glenwolde]

I think some light should be shined on the delivery driver that said he put it on the porch. If he put it in mailbox, that's not on the porch. If he put it on porch there's probably a picture of it. All my delivery guys take pics. I've watched them. If it was stolen from the mailbox it's the result of someone not doing their job.

USPS doesn't take pictures. My previous Post Office always marked my stuff delivered the day before it actually got there. I think they were improving their metrics. I learned to like it, it was a great early warning system.

 

[djohns6]

I used to work cases with a Postal Inspector and his mantra was "once its delivered, it isn't mail anymore".

I don't know if that's true or just something to get people off the phone, but it worked.

I understand his point . They can't be responsible for your packages once they have been delivered . They no longer have any control over them .

 

[jeffrefrig]

I believe thieves are lower than whale waste. Especially these ones praying on senior citizens. And front porch thieves are right up there, too. So now we have to buy security cameras and then pay $10 a month for the info storage. Can't blame any LE service. It's just the way society has been for quite some time. At least if you have a face on your Ring Cam the police have SOMEthing to go on. Hopefully that footage won't be ruled inadmissible evidence.

 

[dave1918a2]

When I lived in Colorado 'porch pirates' were common. Several even followed UPS and FedEx trucks. Steal the package before the truck left the curb. Give description and license # to the police and nothing. Another reason I left CO.

 

[lihpster]

Several even followed UPS and FedEx trucks.

I volunteer to be the rear door gunner in the truck.

 

[grover99]

I must live in a honest neighborhood. Filled an Amazon box with used cat liter and left in on my porch for a week. No one took it.