A cashless Walmart?!?!

[Ματθιας]

For those who think "they" want to "control" us...

Do you own property? Do you pay taxes? Did you serve in the military? Do you have a driver's license? A cell phone? Social Security account? Any professional or business licenses? Investments? Concealed carry permit? Airline frequent flyer account? Rewards account at your grocery store or gas station? What is about you "they" want to know that any teenager with some rudimentary computer skills can't learn?

Conspiracy theories about the government notwithstanding, your lending institutions, credit card companies, and internet providers know far more about you than the government. "They" don't have to manipulate us toward a cashless society in order to "control" us. That horse left the barn a long time ago...

Was it a conspiracy theory when the Canadian government froze the bank accounts of the protesting truckers and the seizure of gofundme type accounts regular folks were using to support, pay for fuel for the truckers? "They" did that.

I might be mistaken, but I think "they" froze bank accounts of some of the folks who donated, too.

 

[ladder13]

Maybe do some research on what the "end game" actually is?

One would have to actually know what the end entails. The gift.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Maybe do some research on what the "end game" actually is?

I promise to read and consider anything to which you can provide a link.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Was it a conspiracy theory when the Canadian government froze the bank accounts of the protesting truckers and the seizure of gofundme type accounts regular folks were using to support, pay for fuel for the truckers? "They" did that.

I might be mistaken, but I think "they" froze bank accounts of some of the folks who donated, too.

So "they" includes the Canadian government? Who else is included in "they"? Do "they" communicate and coordinate with each other?

What you described -- freezing assets -- is a common tool governments have used for decades to shut down illegal activity. If citizens of any given country -- especially a Western democracy -- don't want their government to be able to do that, aren't there remedies -- elections, courts? -- available for that?

 

[03hemi]

I promise to read and consider anything to which you can provide a link.

Have at it, you need to do your own research and not listen to some Joe blow on a public internet forum. Too many people wanna be spoon fed these days, proof is out there for those that seek it.

 

[steelslaver]

I don't know about the rest of you but even if I had $10,000 in cash on hand if they froze my accounts I wouldn't make it to many months before I was outta money. The government has been able to shut down a bank account far longer than I have had one.

Anybody here need this

 

[walkin jack]

Well, I gave up on Walmart a couple of years ago. I will go there for for an item if In just can't find it anywhere else. But I don't go there and buy a bill of groceries or anything else.

Being away from them has added a new level of joy to my life. My only regret is that I didn't do it years ago.

 

[GypsmJim]

Well, I gave up on Walmart a couple of years ago. I will go there for for an item if In just can't find it anywhere else. But I don't go there and buy a bill of groceries or anything else.

Being away from them has added a new level of joy to my life. My only regret is that I didn't do it years ago.

Our local store has:
* the cheapest rimfire ammo town
* the cheapest spray paint cans in town
* the cheapest car batteries in town
* the cheapest car oil in town
* the absolute best deli meats in town
* the lowest cost for routine groceries in town
* NEED I ADD more?

Seeing fat ladies in spandex really doesn't bother me. The store is 3 minutes from my house. I can go elsewhere and pay more. THAT makes no sense to me.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Plastic rules in this household. About the only thing we use cash for is valet parking. Heck, even Mister Softee takes plastic.

We show equal love to Walmart, Meijer, ALDI, Kroger and Rural King.

No complaints.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I do appreciate the entertainment value.

 

[fiasconva]

This happened to us at the Outer Banks Walmart a few years ago during the coin shortages. They didn't have enough to make change if you paid in cash.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

I don't get as many 100 dollar bills anymore, as it seems some places don't like to change them. Now it's getting that way with 50's.

Yep. Some businesses won't take them at all (one checkout told me the reason was "too many (they) got were fake...")

A lot of people don't even know that $50's even exist. Made a large purchase with one and a manager got called over...the cashier has never seen one!

If a business won't take my greenbacks, I'll go find another business that does. After all, debit cards et.al. are fine for those that like them, but cash is STILL the coin of the realm. Many businesses won't take them and that number is increasing.

When you have a college graduate working the newfangled electronic cash registers that long replaced the old typewriter type yet still can't figure out how much change you get back paying with a $20 for a $15 purchase then I guess you can see why a lot of businesses would want to go cashless...I don't think that's the case, though. Less "people' working checkout equals less pay/benefits/etc for employers which means more profit across the board for a lot of big businesses and their shareholders and when you come down to it, that is REALLY what it is all about.

 

[taz666]

I still shop local ma/pa stores just to help keep them going. If the big guys decide to pull up stakes you got to have some other venders. I think there is more than a few communities across the country with no grocers ... people on foot and the elderly are stuck.

 

[NFrameFred]

For those who think "they" want to "control" us...
. "They" don't have to manipulate us toward a cashless society in order to "control" us. That horse left the barn a long time ago...

Absolutely correct . . . except . . . one assumes that it will be business as usual, and things will continue as we are used to them being - just substituting computer zeroes and ones as 'credits' instead of cash.

Hypothetically speaking, say those Chinese, Russian, Iranian and whomever (that some characterize as "big" and "bad" and "imaginary") actors decide the time is ripe for the USA to get its comeuppance and coordinate a devastating cyber-attack with a military offensive. Once the entire system and economy are totally at the mercy of computer "credits", and your water, heat, lights, medicine, groceries, gas, etc., etc., etc., are provided by electronically tendered credits, and the system is irretrievably fried and may or may not be "fixed"/rebuilt for months or years . . . life quickly will represent a dystopian picture akin to a bad movie. Our benevolent benefactors who are in charge can only do much cajoling, threatening, bargaining with producers and suppliers, and martial law to keep things limping along. It would indeed be "every man for himself" rather quickly, especially if the armed forces are trading missiles and lead at the time with "the bad guys", and command the resources necessary for their responsibilities.

Reminds me of an anecdote from the Watts riots in the 1960's where the "protesters" were, as in their fashion, burning down their own neighborhoods including the welfare office. The story goes that on "payday" after the fires died down citizens started lining up in front of the smoking pile of ashes that had been the welfare office. There was obviously nothing there, no help, no solution to their new problem . . . but like cattle coming to a dry water hole, they congregated there because they didn't know what else to do. Where ya gonna go ? Who you gonna look to to take care of things?

The more rural among us would fare a little better (at least in the short term) than the souls in the big cities, but the bottom will have fallen out all over. Increasing invasion of privacy, rights, and personal control of our lives by the "the hive" is inevitable in this world system. Take cash out of the equation for the general population, drop them in the trick bag with the scenario described above and then tell people it’s not that big of a deal.

 

[NFrameFred]

So "they" includes the Canadian government? Who else is included in "they"? Do "they" communicate and coordinate with each other?

What you described -- freezing assets -- is a common tool governments have used for decades to shut down illegal activity. If citizens of any given country -- especially a Western democracy -- don't want their government to be able to do that, aren't there remedies -- elections, courts? -- available for that?

How's that working out these days ? Your supposition rests on the principles nations such as ours were founded upon, not the reality our supposedly lyin' eyes are showing us. Tie it up in the courts for years upon years, wear people down by attrition, break out the bread and circuses to distract them and gin up new outrages until they lose interest and have something else to worry about (the present "border" debacle ring a bell?) I don't think there's a small, sinister cabal who meets in secret places, the lairs of the ephemeral "they", who pull the strings in some grand design to enslave us all. No, it's a movement of philosophy by those who despise the idea that they are not in a position to control things in general, enabled by those who ridicule the idea that such forces are indeed at work to destroy the institutions and principles the country successfully used to become , arguably, the premier country in the world in a sense of taking the lead to uplift the species.

As an old codger told me when I was a pup, "the slickest trick the devil ever pulls is convincing bunches of people that he doesn't exist".


And as I tire of having to constantly remind folks - we don't live in a democracy, we have a representative republic. A democracy is mob rule where two wolves and a sheep vote on what to have for dinner - our system is supposed to be designed to protect the minority and their right to disagree and live their way as long as they damage/harm no one else.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Have at it, you need to do your own research and not listen to some Joe blow on a public internet forum. Too many people wanna be spoon fed these days, proof is out there for those that seek it.

Translation: "I can't provide proof of the conspiracy theory I'm promoting."

 

[Bekeart]

I wanted MY money - First officer said no - second officer said yes

Go down to the bank and tell them you want $20,000 in cash out of your accounts. LOL. Good luck with that.

On a Friday afternoon I asked for $90,000 CASH from my account.

Officer song & danced several verses - not a lot of cash kept in vault

How much can I get?

$10,000

I walked out.

Monday with a different officer I got MY CASH.

Talked with bank president - first officer was recent hire and probably still doing things the way his previous employment might have had a cash limit.

Bekeart

 

[jtcarm]

Kinda like the time the computers went out in the only grocery store in Jeanerette and ya had to pay cash-no credit cards no EBT cards no nuttin' but good old fashioned cash. I thought there was gonna be a riot!

I’m impressed they could still take cash.

 

[jtcarm]

Remember what a big deal it used to be when you paid a merchant by check (if they took them)?

It’s almost the same now when you pay with a C note (if they take them.)

 

[zeke]

For those who think "they" want to "control" us...

Do you own property? Do you pay taxes? Did you serve in the military? Do you have a driver's license? A cell phone? Social Security account? Any professional or business licenses? Investments? Concealed carry permit? Airline frequent flyer account? Rewards account at your grocery store or gas station? What is about you "they" want to know that any teenager with some rudimentary computer skills can't learn?

Conspiracy theories about the government notwithstanding, your lending institutions, credit card companies, and internet providers know far more about you than the government. "They" don't have to manipulate us toward a cashless society in order to "control" us. That horse left the barn a long time ago...

The more times you use cash, the less "they" know. Am including any commercial enterprise in "they". The more cash you use, the less you have to sort your mail, email and computer activities.