Pre 27-4 screw-Not model marked. Where are they.

[Gdogman]

Gil...the .357 should have been stamped MOD-27 in the yoke cut, but was not for an unknown reason. Happens from time to time.

Bill

Yes agreed. This is the .357 that Richard, you and I talked about at the Symposium in Glendale as it was part of my display and when we noticed it wasn't stamped, we asked you about it. I was under the impression it was a Pre-27 and I will check the LOA.

Gil
SWCA #3188
SWHF #527

 

[SmithNut]

.357 Magnum 4 screw non-model marked

I had one in my collection back about 23-24 years ))

Traded it to another collector, he is an active forum member and may chime in with a pic (?) hopefully.

The s/n was S173010, my notes say it was a Special Order gun, and I had condition at 85%..

 

[RKmesa]

Here is my non model marked, 4 screw, Pre-27 nickel 8 3/8" barrel Richard (RK Mesa) was referring to in post #17. This was on display at the Symposium in Glendale in my "Long Barrels" display. The LOA states the gun shipped on August 9, 1961. The sales pitch when I bought it was:

"Produced in 1960 this excellent .357 is one of the more rare configurations in the Pre-27 series, further enhanced by being such a late-production 4-screw example that is not model-marked."

Gil
SWCA #3188
SWHF #527

Gil:

That is a great gun!!! I love it! In addition to the letter, do you have a copy of the invoice?

 

[Gun Relics]

I have a 4 screw pre-27, serial number S 136659 (1954) - no screw in the front of the frame. I didn't realize they were uncommon. The model number was marked starting at 179,000. Mine is 6" with a patridge sight, serrated trigger, target hammer and target stocks. Guess I'll get a letter now. If anybody wants me to post photos I will be happy to.

 

[RKmesa]

I have a 4 screw pre-27, serial number S 136659 (1954) - no screw in the front of the frame. I didn't realize they were uncommon. The model number was marked starting at 179,000. Mine is 6" with a patridge sight, serrated trigger, target hammer and target stocks. Guess I'll get a letter now. If anybody wants me to post photos I will be happy to.

Welcome to the forum.

That sounds like a fun gun. We would love to see some photos, but at SN S136659, there should definitely be a screw in front of the frame above the trigger guard and all 4 screws on the side-plate, making it a 5-screw pre-27. The top side plate screw was the first to go... then the trigger guard screw with the introduction of the 27-2 designation (after the 27-1s).

 

[Gun Relics]

Welcome to the forum.

That sounds like a fun gun. We would love to see some photos, but at SN S136659, there should definitely be a screw in front of the frame above the trigger guard and all 4 screws on the side-plate, making it a 5-screw pre-27. The top side plate screw was the first to go... then the trigger guard screw with the introduction of the 27-2 designation (after the 27-1s).

Sorry, you are correct - I missed the trigger guard screw. 5 screws, my bad.

 

[RKmesa]

Sorry, you are correct - I missed the trigger guard screw. 5 screws, my bad.

We would still LOVE to see some photos. Please.

 

[Gun Relics]

We would still LOVE to see some photos. Please.

Ok thanks for asking, here you go. Boring 5 screw from 1954. The screwdriver shown actually came with a pre-29. This is my 2nd S & W with a serial number stamped on the cylinder, the other is a regulation police. I think that's really cool.

 

[Retired W4]

I don't know about boring. Here are a couple more from the same year. They make a nice trio.

 

[Truckman]

This is my 2nd S & W with a serial number stamped on the cylinder, the other is a regulation police. I think that's really cool.

If you'll look on the muzzle side of the extractor star, the rear side of the yoke, inside the ejector rod housing (or in its absence the underside of the barrel flat) and possibly the underside of the sight leaf as well as the usual inside of the right stock panel you may find the same number......Ben

 

[woodsltc]

I came across this 4 screw, 3&1/2 inch M27 no-dash several years ago. Supposedly it belonged to a rancher in Wyoming and it was his daily carry on the ranch. Per his son who was the seller the gun was sent back to S&W for a "tune-up" at some point (and I think maybe it was re-blued at the same time ..... just my guess by looking at the markings on the grip frame). Don

 

[Gun Relics]

If you'll look on the muzzle side of the extractor star, the rear side of the yoke, inside the ejector rod housing (or in its absence the underside of the barrel flat) and possibly the underside of the sight leaf as well as the usual inside of the right stock panel you may find the same number......Ben

I need a microscope! Well I did find the back of the star and inside the ejector rod housing. I guess I'm going to have to search my other models a little closer. I.m learning that I have a lot to learn!

 

[Truckman]

I'm going to have to search my other models a little closer. I.m learning that I have a lot to learn!

Don't strain your eyes too hard on guns made after about the mid-fifties (I think) when soft fitting ended and the need to number each part went away...Somebody else may correct my memory on the date......Ben

 

[CptCurl]

I came across this 4 screw, 3&1/2 inch M27 no-dash several years ago. Supposedly it belonged to a rancher in Wyoming and it was his daily carry on the ranch. Per his son who was the seller the gun was sent back to S&W for a "tune-up" at some point (and I think maybe it was re-blued at the same time ..... just my guess by looking at the markings on the grip frame). Don

Excuse me for putting my ignorance on display, but I have not seen a butt serial number where the "S" is adjacent to the numerals. I would expect to see it well to the left. Can someone enlighten me?

Thx,
Curly