Info needed on super rare American Express model 645 factory engraved

I would bet it was done by Ken Smith Engraving, Largo Florida. He is still engraving and doing really super nice work.

"Custom hand engraving excellence since 1965. Specializing in a wide variety of engraved gifts, GUNS, pens, plaques, PROMOTIONAL PRODUCTS and much more."

The OP lives in Brooksville Florida, (@ 70 miles away.) maybe just a coincidence but I'm sure Mr. Ken Smith would remember doing the AM EX Platinum 645 if he did. Just a phone call away. 👍

Jim
 
I would bet it was done by Ken Smith Engraving, Largo Florida. He is still engraving and doing really super nice work.

"Custom hand engraving excellence since 1965. Specializing in a wide variety of engraved gifts, GUNS, pens, plaques, PROMOTIONAL PRODUCTS and much more."

The OP lives in Brooksville Florida, (@ 70 miles away.) maybe just a coincidence but I'm sure Mr. Ken Smith would remember doing the AM EX Platinum 645 if he did. Just a phone call away. 👍

Jim

I was going to suggest Ken Smith also. With the OP living that close, I believe you may have solved this riddle. Basically, anyone can contract out an engraving project and have a one of one. I had a 629 engraved by Ken Hurst for a retiring PD SWAT commander and it certainly is a one of one.
 
Is it signed R Smith as the engraver? I know one engraver who used to hide his initials in his work. I'd imagine if there was a R. Smith engraver someone here will know.

Yes it is under the grips signed r smith
 
Yes r smith under the grips Is he still around maybe get some details
 
Is it signed R Smith as the engraver? I know one engraver who used to hide his initials in his work. I'd imagine if there was a R. Smith engraver someone here will know.
. Ok so I looked again trying to post picture the engraving signed k smith under the grips on frame
 

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Those pictures look to be the same as those in the OP's.

That's my post from Brooksville boys calm down if unsure of the value start high. I really posted hoping to find info I'm sure 25k isn't a real value but never know ? Whom it may have owned it I was hoping it was Donald's trumps gun
 
Wonder if OP will be back? I can't imagine this is necessarily good news considering what he sounded like he hoped for.

It's not about the money I like to find the history the story the hunt of course I'll be back
 
Need info on a factory engraved 645 American Express platinum and yes it's a factory engraving how rare value? Is it 1of1
I like it and I hope my negative criticism in this post is taken in the spirit in which I offer it. Definitely more positive than negative here OK?

The artist, KSmith, does not understand a principle of art usually referred to as negative space. The same or similar principle in graphic design is known as "white space". You can see this around the text engraving on both sides of the slide. There is considerable white space above the text, and the swirls crowd the Amex text underneath on the right side. The left side is consistent all around the S&W text but the spacing between letters is being ignored. The paragraph has space around it on the left but is crowded on the right, like somebody was doing a paste up for the printer and could not get the text in the middle of the graphics, or like as if someone was placing a decal and it slipped off center.

On the other hand, if you use negative space like I would, you tend to get a feeling as if you are worshipping that company name. The design would be less cluttered, not so busy, easier to read, and the Amex name would take over instead of the swirls. Look at the word "Express". Can you see how much better it would look if he had put the space after the "s" which is touching the swirls, that he put between the "E" and the "X"?

Most people are not going to say these things about it. They will say that it looks nice, but they will pass on buying it. Some people believe strongly that no "art" should ever be criticized in any way. I can understand, since beauty is a very subjective thing. My mother and my daughter were art educators. I taught a drawing course for a year or two in the Christian H.S. so I think artists can benefit from constructive criticism.

I love this gun! With my family, we always used this as a code for having my CCW with me. Sometimes when leaving the house, or when she is a little frightened, or when she wants me to think that she looks up to me as her mighty protector :-) my wife will ask, "Do you have your American Express?"

I love the AMEX card. I am a member since 1988. It is the most secure and has the best record keeping, and the best customer service of any card I ever had!

I concur with post #14. You would get the value of an engraved unfired pistol of that model, less an amount for the personalization in the engraving, less a small amount because of these picky artistic complaints that I am making.

I also concur with post #19. I cannot believe that AMEX would let this happen without the Centurion face logo included. They are very particular about the typeface and letter spacing. I know the card that was being copied here from the early 90's. The double spacing of the word "platinum" is not enough to get the look. That word is superimposed on the plume of the Centurion's helmet and contrasts with the thick bold type of the company name. Your engraver tried to suggest the bold type by using outlines. AMEX has very specific written policies for every department detailing exactly what company documents and logos must look like.

Thank you for showing us this gun. Carry it proudly!

Kind Regards!
BrianD
 
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It's not about the money I like to find the history the story the hunt of course I'll be back

Well sure. Finding out about the history of anything unique that we collect can be rewarding. There is still no mention of how you originally acquired it.

Did you ever get in contact with Ken Smith? Seems like a logical first step. Once I found that lead I almost contacted him myself but it's none of my business.

Jim
 
Need info on a factory engraved 645 American Express platinum and yes it's a factory engraving how rare value? Is it 1of1

Nice gun I had a 645 years ago not sure on the value for your there is one thing I did with mine is change that Phillips screw with a much nicer screw !
 
Well sure. Finding out about the history of anything unique that we collect can be rewarding. There is still no mention of how you originally acquired it.

Did you ever get in contact with Ken Smith? Seems like a logical first step. Once I found that lead I almost contacted him myself but it's none of my business.

Jim
I contacted Ken this morning he concurred that it's his signature and he will call me tonite he is now retired!!!
 
Is that lock ring factory on this model

No, but it was probably a good idea to use since the screws are notorious for falling out.
I'm not a .45 guy but I wouldn't mind finding one of those with the single-sided safety body.
 

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I contacted Ken this morning he concurred that it's his signature and he will call me tonite he is now retired!!!

That's great, (of course not the point that he's retired.) Should I, "we" assume the call did not happen since you have not given any update??? 👎

Ken had to have recorded the 645 into his FFL bound book while in his possession. Who did he get it from to be engraved? Who did it go to after he engraved it?

Jim
 
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