ANOTHER ASSASINATION TRY ON TRUMP

I'm learning a lot about the various members here . Threads like this are a window into their soul . Some of them don't have one . That shows too .

I struggle to understand how anyone would question lifetime security for former presidents or suggest a former president with two execution attempts start a Go Fund Me to get adequate protection. Boggles the mind...and in the interest of self-preservation I'll leave it at that and not say what I really think.
 
I struggle to understand how anyone would question lifetime security for former presidents or suggest a former president with two execution attempts start a Go Fund Me to get adequate protection. Boggles the mind...and in the interest of self-preservation I'll leave it at that and not say what I really think.

He's a billionaire.He doesn't need go fund me if it's really a problem
 
Governors can say anything - doesn't mean they are correct.

From the Florida Constitution, Article IV, Section 1:

Don't see anything about investigating crime.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement, or FDLE, is a department of the Executive Branch of government, FDLE is headed by the Governor and Cabinet. The FDLE Commissioner is appointed by the Governor with the approval of three members of the Cabinet and subject to confirmation by the Senate.

The FDLE is the Govenor's. They investigate what he wants.

I don't question the SS guy shooting at the suspect. I do question why in those circumstances and location that advance guy didn't have some sort of long gun. I also question why they didn't have a 2 or 3 man team specifically sweeping that fence line ahead of the president, along with the advance guy that actually spotted the suspect.

I don't question the lesser charges he's currently held on. That's standard procedure for serious crimes in many cases.

Looks like an SKS to me.

I don't think the SS has found a proper replacement leader as of yet. They need to keep looking. I'm not impressed with the new guy.

And no, I no longer have full trust in our alphabet agencies, and haven't for many years. I've had contact with a fair number of them over the years, at a lower level. I was not always impressed with their hiring choices. I'm sure most are good guys though.
 
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When I was in my fire service career, I always chuckled when people who were not in my profession, and who weren't qualified to do what I did, nevertheless took it upon themselves to woulda-coulda-shoulda us after an incident.

I imagine Secret Service agents reading this thread would have similar reactions...
 

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Indeed. Even the New Mexico state oath requires state officials to defend the US Constitution. I've sworn to defend it in 1979, 1980, 1997, 2017, 2022, and in June. Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Here's what New Mexico Governor Lujan-Grisham said in 2023 as she banned firearms:

""No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute..."

Seeing as you swore an oath to the US Constitution, you better go defend it from her!
 
President Trumps private security is most likely considerately better than the ss....

I thought there was a write-up in one of the newsrags that 45's security got run off by the SS. It was a long time ago, maybe 2016 or '17, something about "situational control" or the like. My memory ain't what it was. Joe
 
And in support I'd like to add this little nugget about Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution, a.k.a. - the "Supremacy Clause":

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land."

Translation: If a state law conflicts with a federal law, the federal law takes precedence. The federal charges prevail.

You're presuming there is conflict with federal law, not state charges in addition to federal law.
 
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Here's what New Mexico Governor Lujan-Grisham said in 2023 as she banned firearms:

""No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute..."

Sadly there those who, like many of us, have taken that oath and seemingly didn't give it the same binding commitment to their actions as have we.

When I see that type of equivocation regarding the oath we took, I'm reminded of the quote by Captain Barbossa in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies: "Deceitful and blackhearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never."
 
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Ματθιας;142074197 said:
Here's what New Mexico Governor Lujan-Grisham said in 2023 as she banned firearms:

""No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute..."

Seeing as you swore an oath to the US Constitution, you better go defend it from her!

Looks like governors can indeed say anything, true or more manure-smelling.
 
I thought there was a write-up in one of the newsrags that 45's security got run off by the SS. It was a long time ago, maybe 2016 or '17, something about "situational control" or the like. My memory ain't what it was. Joe

With the American appetite for total control being what it is, I wouldn't bet against that being the truth. If 45's security had problems taking instruction, or the comms kit the SS want to use is beyond their clearance, then it makes sense.
 
When I was in my fire service career, I always chuckled when people who were not in my profession, and who weren't qualified to do what I did, nevertheless took it upon themselves to woulda-coulda-shoulda us after an incident.

I imagine Secret Service agents reading this thread would have similar reactions...

So we should never question authority!
 
First, you and I weren't there. But the rifle was apparently perceived as an immediate threat. Or should the agent waited to see if he would be fired upon? Pointing a rifle at a federal agent is a felony and deadly force is allowed. Other rules may apply among local police departments but this is federal.

You and I weren't there. But you feel free to invent your own scenario.
 
With the American appetite for total control being what it is, I wouldn't bet against that being the truth. If 45's security had problems taking instruction, or the comms kit the SS want to use is beyond their clearance, then it makes sense.

As a private citizen, Donald Trump had his own security service. When he became the President of the United States, the United States Secret Service became responsible for his security. USSS standards are very, very strict...no one else protects any designated protectee except Secret Service personnel. It's agency policy, that's all.
 
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