After 25 years …no Internal Lock!

[SWFan27]

This opens-up a whole new world of purchase possibilities. I hope the "no lock" catalog expands greatly.

Money talks. If these three No Lock models sell well, I am sure there will be more new offerings to come. The purists for the large extent may laugh at these.

But I think many of the few who still even care about revolvers these days, or at least enough to consider dropping the cost of a Python on the counter may certainly consider this new line. They end up with a few hundred bucks still in their wallet. And with another added benefit of not having a QR code stamped on the side of their fancy new revolver.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

...I am pretty sure the majority of forum members have not purchased a new Smith & Wesson revolver this century. This new offering won't appeal to guys who want new stuff built exactly like it was 50 years ago. And for an inexpensive price point.
...

True words!

This thread has smoked out the BSAs (Boy Scouts of America) who claimed the lock was the reason they wouldn't buy a new S&W revolver. Being curmudgeonly was never just about the lock.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

...And with another added benefit of not having a QR code stamped on the side of their fancy new revolver.

I have new QR Colt revolver. On a working gun it doesn't bother me. But it does somewhat diminish the illusion of "hand-crafted" quality in a factory mass-assembled firearm.

Everyone's got their pet peeves. Same reason I won't touch a Kimber revolver.... those hideous angular lines and allen-head screw make it look like a Harbor Freight product.

 

[SWFan27]

I have new QR Colt revolver. On a working gun it doesn't bother me. But it does somewhat diminish the illusion of "hand-crafted" quality in factory mass-assembled firearm.

Everyone's got their pet peeves. Same reason I won't touch a Kimber revolver.... those hideous angular lines and allen-head screw make it look like a Harbor Freight product.

I guess I have the same attitude about the S&W lock. I wish it wasn't there, but it doesn't bother me too much. If I ever do buy a new Python, I am sure I will start ignoring the QR code as easily as I do the S&W lock with my first shots down range.

 

[roycohutta]

Heavy Barrel

I wish S&W would come back out with a no lock model 10 & 13 with 3"barrel and round butt.

Yes, and with a HB

 

[CH4]

Come see me Tuesday at Lipsey's for some more very cool things with no locks.

You got it!

I'll be wearing an Armscor shirt. No locks in our booth either.

 

[Yendor357]

The Mountain gun has a lighter profile barrel, narrow hammer and trigger.
Basically, a lighter version. The heavier one weighs 42.15, the Mountain weighs in at 39.47. Not a lot, but I'll bet after carrying all day, the Mountain is the one most of us would want.

I love that M10 with the pencil barrel and half moon sight. It's one of those "You'll like that sort of thing, if that's the sort of thing you like.

No lock signals a possible momentum shift. That's big.

 

[glider1]

I will probably go for the 19 but the 10 and 36 are not hard to find and the price is as much as a nice pre-82 gun. Besides that, I like a 3-inch model 36. Tell ya what, I'll buy a lottery ticket today and if it hits, I'll buy all 3 LOL

 

[ladder13]

Hopefully, they can holt that Davidsons Exclusive Model 20 in time to get the new frame.

That's one for me in 4 inch. And a 44sp fixed sight N frame. 3-5''s

 

[ladder13]

Shot Show runs next Tuesday to Friday.

Report from nyeti and CH4?

 

[Harry Callihan]

It's about time!! I think Smith felt the heat from CZ/Colt. I bought a new Colt Python and can't believe how nice that gun is quality wise. The bluing is fabulous. I hope Smith & Wesson follows in those footsteps. I prefer to buy the Smiths....

 

[wadcutter1]

Great news

 

[nyeti]

Shot Show runs next Tuesday to Friday.

Report from nyeti and CH4?

I am under NDA's right now…..but several people posting on here need to get credit cards warmed up. There is some super practical guns coming from Lipsey's….and no locks.

 

[ladder13]

I am under NDA's right now…..but several people posting on here need to get credit cards warmed up. There is some super practical guns coming from Lipsey's….and no locks.

Ready,willing,and able.

 

[handejector]

I never thought we'd see this.

BOLO for Bigfoots, Unicorns, and Nessie.
ANYTHING'S possible!

 

[CH4]

Shot Show runs next Tuesday to Friday.

Report from nyeti and CH4?

You got it!

 

[Jocko-44]

Now it's time to bring back the highway patrolman!

 

[TheTinMan]

I am one who has not bought a S&W revolver with the lock.
I have accumulated over 40 s&W revolvers over the last 40 years,,and not one has the lock .
For the last 20+ years all my S&W purchases has been used without the lock.

But while the lock is the biggest reason that stopped me from buying S&W .
The other reason is the MIM parts and the two piece barrel.

( IF) I could replace the MIM parts with with forged steel,,,I would be standing in line today to get a model 21 and a model 22.

Got the money burning a hole in my pocket if S&W happens to be scrolling through these comments!

The 2-piece barrel, done correctly, is superior IMHO. Dan Wesson pioneered this engineeering approach and I love the three DW revolvers (plus 2 extra barrels) my safe. I am not convinced S&W 2-piece barrels meet my criterion of "done correctly".

There is nothing wrong with MIM/cast parts when done correctly. However, often the hardening is done only to a very thin skin and the inside of the part is soft. Go through that skin either with normal wear or a polishing stone and you have problems. Triggers, hammers, hands, and sears generally shouldn't be cast.

The real problem today is that most manufacturers in the US can't compete price-wise with good quality control. Plus many gun purchasers don't shoot their new gun enough to figure out that it has a problem. I had a 2019 Colt King Cobra …

P.S. Rossi surprised me. I bought an R-95 (knock off of Marlin 336 .30-30). Rossi made 3 well thought out engineering changes. Their hammer forged barrel was just as accurate as my new Marlin 336 Classic. I took it apart completely and the machining was fine everywhere it mattered. I only sold it because a) the wood is frugly, b) the full Ranger Point Precision treatment I gave it was entertaining but at the end of the day it's a .30-30 lever action rifle, and c) I am completely out of safe space for long guns and I bought other things I like even more. Plus I found a guy who LOVES his new "totally tactical" lever action rifle.

 

[44wheelman]

This is GREAT. I will be getting a 19, and hoping for a 386, 69 & 4"29.

Now if they would do something about those cheezy, stamped in Thailand looking grips (Colts are no better).

 

[The Norseman]

Sacrificial Offerings

What defines a Mountain Gun? Are they any different than my 4-inch 617 and 686+? both have locks which have never been used.

Yeah a Mountain Gun would have made
more sense than some of the offerings.
Or maybe not because the demand would
be unbearable.

What defines a M.G.
Usually a S&W "N" frame revolver.
A lighter weight than standard same caliber.
A 4in., tapered barrel, nice sculptured raised
sight plane, no full under lug metal.
Cylinder Front is slightly chamfered.
Non-target Hammer spur.
Non-target trigger.
Adjustable Rear Sight. Pinned Front Sight.
Manufactured from Stainless Steel or
Carbon Steel finished blued.
Grip frame is usually a round butt.
Just an authoritative, nice, fit, trim,
holstering revolver suitable for packing
around while hunting.

I see my 1996 M.G. firing pin on the hammer
and 2009 M.G. with I.L. and internal hammer
have the same frame curvature in the
hammer area.