calmex
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Yes, my first thought as well!
After 25 years …no Internal Lock!
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Yes, my first thought as well!
daveyc
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I think this is BIG news and a good decision by Smith. I also think this is a start and I would not be surprised if they just took the whole line "no lock" or maybe just send lock guns to Cali to make drop test passing easier.
I have not purchased a "lock" revolver in 15 years, and that one was a .500 that could only be had with lock. It would be nice to have the "no lock" option with x frames.
I have not purchased a "lock" revolver in 15 years, and that one was a .500 that could only be had with lock. It would be nice to have the "no lock" option with x frames.
daveyc
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To add: for those complaining about price, check out an inflation calculator. That $979 spent today is the equivalent of $519.99 back in 1999.
puts things into a better perspective. I imagine after 6 months or so, these no lock revolvers will be had for less than MSRP as well.
puts things into a better perspective. I imagine after 6 months or so, these no lock revolvers will be had for less than MSRP as well.
I just noticed. The product page lists the Model 10 as having a traditional 4" barrel, and not a 4.25" one, and the photos make it appear that the Model 36 and Model 10 have one-piece barrels. Those are big pluses in my book if that's the case!
And speaking of grips, the new no-lock Model 10 appears to have something other than the usual cheap Altamont laminate stocks on it. The product page mentions that these grips are made by Tyler Gun Works, and they appear to be properly thicker and of higher quality! (Wish it had medallions, but I'll take what I can get given the non-Altamont stocks!)
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-10-classic-no-internal-lock
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Altamont grips are too thin, sharp, and plasticky looking/feeling IMO. I'm disappointed that they've become the de-facto standard for OEM "wood" grips these days, it seems. But I will not accept Thailand grip slander. Vitoonmakers and Jaruwan.P on eBay put out some great S&W grips and both are based in Thailand. Here are some excellent Vitoonmakers grips on my well-worn Model 10.
It's a good thing the human body comes with a spare kidney, because I'm about to mortgage everything based upon this announcement and the info you're able to tease!
And speaking of grips, the new no-lock Model 10 appears to have something other than the usual cheap Altamont laminate stocks on it. The product page mentions that these grips are made by Tyler Gun Works, and they appear to be properly thicker and of higher quality! (Wish it had medallions, but I'll take what I can get given the non-Altamont stocks!)
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-10-classic-no-internal-lock
- Tyler Gun Works high-grade walnut grip.
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Altamont grips are too thin, sharp, and plasticky looking/feeling IMO. I'm disappointed that they've become the de-facto standard for OEM "wood" grips these days, it seems. But I will not accept Thailand grip slander. Vitoonmakers and Jaruwan.P on eBay put out some great S&W grips and both are based in Thailand. Here are some excellent Vitoonmakers grips on my well-worn Model 10.
It's a good thing the human body comes with a spare kidney, because I'm about to mortgage everything based upon this announcement and the info you're able to tease!
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Apologies to Vitoonmakers and Jaruwan.P and others who take pride in their work.
It was a general stereotype comment about low cost, not aesthetically pleasing grips.
It was a general stereotype comment about low cost, not aesthetically pleasing grips.
How about a round butt 3" 19!!!
I just noticed. The product page lists the Model 10 as having a traditional 4" barrel, and not a 4.25" one. That's a big plus in my book if that's the case!
And speaking of grips, the new no-lock Model 10 appears to have something other than the usual cheap Altamont laminate stocks on it. The product page mentions that these grips are made by Tyler Gun Works, and they appear to be properly thicker and of higher quality! (Wish it had medallions, but I'll take what I can get given the non-Altamont stocks!)
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-10-classic-no-internal-lock
- Tyler Gun Works high-grade walnut grip.
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Altamont grips are too thin, sharp, and plasticky looking/feeling IMO. I'm disappointed that they've become the de-facto standard for OEM "wood" grips these days, it seems. But I will not accept Thailand grip slander. Vitoonmakers and Jaruwan.P on eBay put out some great S&W grips and both are based in Thailand. Here are some excellent Vitoonmakers grips on my well-worn Model 10.
It's a good thing the human body comes with a spare kidney, because I'm about to mortgage everything based upon this announcement and the info you're able to tease!
You should also have two ears, two plums...
Can anyone definitively advise if the frame re-contour was the result of the frame mounted firing pin or the adoption of the lock? I believe it to be the latter. I have a recollection of some late nineties models receiving their frame mounted firing pins several years before the lock was added, and their frame contours were much closer to the pre-lock guns than the comparatively bloated looking post-lock guns.
You should also have two ears, two plums...
They can have an arm and a leg while they're at it! Just gimme more no-locks!
Model 15-4ever
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With the same great quality as the last Lipsey S&W release?
Lousy quality control rests solely at the feet of modern S&W. For what it's worth after its dead front sight was replaced, my 632-UC has become one of the best S&Ws I've ever had, and one of the only J-frames I actually enjoy shooting for extended periods of time.
sigp220.45
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My 646 has the frame mounted firing pin and it has a normal looking frame. Its an L frame, though, so maybe there is enough room. The N frames with the IL and the frame mounted firing pin always had the classic frame shape. And as has been noted, K-22s have always had a frame mounted firing pin and avoided the fuglies. I gotta blame the lock.
The new no-lock Model 10 is approaching normalcy in the looks department, but that poor Model 36 just ain't making it.
Also, that sound you hear is Saxon Pig/Art Doc spinning in his grave with all this pencil barrel talk!
The new no-lock Model 10 is approaching normalcy in the looks department, but that poor Model 36 just ain't making it.
Also, that sound you hear is Saxon Pig/Art Doc spinning in his grave with all this pencil barrel talk!
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Now to get "all" of them without locks!
Now to get "all" of them without locks!
The larger framed Smiths are not as noticeable, or noticeable at all with lock modification. That's why I want an N frame 44sp with fixed sights. 
Enzo Rules
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I'd be in for a Model 13 with a 3 inch barrel. Instead the new Model 19 will do.
Yeah and even a square butt!! Miracle after miracle.
Very glad to see these (though I'm not in the market today, tomorrow is....)
Now if they'd only offer that 36 in nickel, I got my checkbook right here!
Now if they'd only offer that 36 in nickel, I got my checkbook right here!
Even if I didn't have all the Smiths I'll ever need I wouldn't buy one. Something's fishy here. "Very reminiscent of the original Chief's Special" doesn't cut it in my book. If they wanted to do it right they should have just resumed manufacturing the originals again.
It is. I like the double action on my new Python better than the four old ones I used to have. The single action is inferior however.
On the Smith front, this is definitely a step in the right direction and I'm intrigued by the model 10. It's got a "Victory" vibe to it I kinda like.
Now that it is pointed out that the Mdl. 10 grips are Tyler walnut, I'm not so disappointed... but they still need emblems.
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