CAJUNLAWYER
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So now we have the pencil barrel or the stove pipe barrel. This just took off in an unexpected direction!
My job here is done!
My job here is done!
The Model 10 - Why the bull barrel?
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gwpercle
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Altho I like the looks of the standard tapered barrel ...
I shoot the heavy barrel models much better . The 4" length HB doesn't add much weight but sure makes for steadier holding ...
With the heavy barrel the front sight seems to hand steady on the bullseye .
My model 58 41 magnum and model 64 38 special are both heavy barrel and most enjoyable to shoot .
I want Cajun Lawyer to take note ... I never used the word "pencil" or "stove" or "pipe" or "bull" ... not once ,
I'm Learning , thank's for your post (#34)
Now if we can get them to stop calling the 45 Colt ...
... 45 LONG Colt !
my pet peeve !
Gary
I shoot the heavy barrel models much better . The 4" length HB doesn't add much weight but sure makes for steadier holding ...
With the heavy barrel the front sight seems to hand steady on the bullseye .
My model 58 41 magnum and model 64 38 special are both heavy barrel and most enjoyable to shoot .
I want Cajun Lawyer to take note ... I never used the word "pencil" or "stove" or "pipe" or "bull" ... not once ,
I'm Learning , thank's for your post (#34)
Now if we can get them to stop calling the 45 Colt ...
... 45 LONG Colt !
my pet peeve !
Gary
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There was twelve of us hired under the Safe Streets Act in 1973 and the department was just then moving from the "pencil" barrel to the "bull" barrel. One of the rookies asks, "Captain, how come we're getting heavy barrels" The training Captain doesn't bat an eye, "we keep bending the barrels when we pistol whip suspects"
Along with the S&W 10-6 we were issued night sticks and blackjacks. My experience was that most felons were whacked with D cell Kel Lights, because that was what you had in your hand. Next was a Motorola radio, they were huge. I'm sure the blackjack saved my life twice. They are damn effective, especially when adrenaline is leaking out your ears.
I do believe choke holds and blackjacks kept a lot of felons alive who today are simply shot because the lawyers have taken away some very effective tools. Nobody wants to address that. What part of "force" in Law Enforcement is not understood?
Along with the S&W 10-6 we were issued night sticks and blackjacks. My experience was that most felons were whacked with D cell Kel Lights, because that was what you had in your hand. Next was a Motorola radio, they were huge. I'm sure the blackjack saved my life twice. They are damn effective, especially when adrenaline is leaking out your ears.
I do believe choke holds and blackjacks kept a lot of felons alive who today are simply shot because the lawyers have taken away some very effective tools. Nobody wants to address that. What part of "force" in Law Enforcement is not understood?
Engine49guy
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The Motorola Mt 500 was like getting hit with a brick but the 4 D cell Maglite was like getting hit with an 18" lead pipe.
Ah yes, MT500 AKA "the brick".
Amen! One problem, the firearm industry perpetrates the problem by mislabeling what they are selling.
Kind of like Motor Oil, says it on the bottle. It is Engine oil.
Rosewood
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Doug M.
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FWIW, I doubt LAPD had much if any influence on the HB M10 as they tended to or even mandated the adjustable sight models (M14, M15, M68). Their emphasis on marksmanship in days gone by required the better sight picture. I am one of those for whom the fixed sight models don't work well - faster precise shooting and the fixed sights are not a good mix for me.
Back in the cavalry days on the western frontier, Army supply officers would specify the "long Colt" 45 so as to not receive the "short" S&W Schofield 45.
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I would like your post, but I just can't bring myself to ruin your perfect 8,000 likes.
I would like your post, but I just can't bring myself to ruin your perfect 8,000 likes.
Somebody's gotta do it..
Well try putting motor oil on your 45 long Colt so it doesn’t get stuck in the pencil barrel. Lol. But I mean stove pipes are usually pretty thin. Gotta love all the different names for the same things.
Timbo22
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I have a Victory Model and two 64s with 4" taper barrels and a 64 with a 3" heavy barrel. I like them all. It's great to have them all when I can't make up my mind on which one is better.
SweetMK
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Is my 681 a Double Pencil Barrel,, or an Overweight Heavy Barrel?? 
The heavy barrel model 10 points better than the tapered barrel for many shooters. Bill Jordan, Rex Applegate, and William Fairbairn's doctrine of point shooting played a large role in the development of heavy revolver barrels in the post war years. S&W, Colt, and Ruger simply supplied revolvers to meet this philosophy.
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ADP3
Best Regards,
ADP3
Martin67
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For me on nickel or stainless I prefer the Heavy Barrel, looks symmetrical to my eye.
Blued It has to be a tapered barrel.
I have a 64-5 and a 4 screw Pre Model 10
Blued It has to be a tapered barrel.
I have a 64-5 and a 4 screw Pre Model 10
-BTM-
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Is it just me or do these look like model 15s
I like a nice round butt and a heavy front BARREL. It is easy to hold and get on target. Just saying IMHO.
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I don't own either, but from an aesthetics standpoint, I greatly prefer the thin barrels (and I think full-frame ejector rod shrouds are insanely ugly). I'm extremely tempted by the new Model 10 no-lock, but I just spent my tax return on the 19 no-lock, so the 10 will be waiting for a very long time.
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