I recently came across about 800 rounds of CCI CB 22 long cartridges ( MV 710 fps ) that I did not know I had. OK to shoot them in say a Model 17 revolver? Is it just a potential accuracy thing? i have rifles I can use them up in if need be
Shoot Longs In A Long Rifle Revolver?
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BillyKframe
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I shoot a lot of the CB shorts in a High Standard Olympic and the accuracy is superb. I have also shot them in my old Ruger Single Six truck gun and they are as accurate as .22 LR and quieter.
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The case length is the same, Long vs Long Rifle, therefore no crud buildup in the chamber.
The .22 Long uses the same cartridge case as the.22 LR and the same bullet as the .22 Short. The CB version that you have is a reduced power version that may not function the action of semi-auto’s. They should be fine in your revolver. Very quiet.
SGT ROCK 11B
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Same here. Ruger Single Six very handy around the ranch.
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It won't hurt to try them. I always heard (way before the Internet) that .22 longs weren't accurate. Whether there's truth to that, I don't know. I don't recall ever firing longs in any gun.
Kp321
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Use caution when shooting these CB’s in a revolver. The cylinder gap can vent enough gas to possibly cause a stuck bullet. Be sure each bullet exits before firing again. I have seen too many stuck bullets in revolvers during my years as a gunsmith.
I use them quite a bit in a 4” barrel, J-frame model 63.
Especially as a training vehicle for newbies who may be sound and recoil shy.
Works quit well as a confidence builder. Very accurate at ranges you’d expect for a beginner.
Especially as a training vehicle for newbies who may be sound and recoil shy.
Works quit well as a confidence builder. Very accurate at ranges you’d expect for a beginner.
I have 4 boxes hanging around (20 years maybe) also. As I remember they have enough power to easily clear a 4" revolver barrel. I have fired them in rifles and never had a stuck bullet. I suppose if'n you had an 8 3/8" model 17 with a large gap it might be a problem. Joe
AJ
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Should work just fine. I clean the chambers in my 17 with a mop. Never have had a problem with shorts, longs or long rifles in it. As an aside a lot of the older rifles have chambered for short, long and long rifle stamped on the chamber. My old Savage Model 7 is so marked.
They will work just fine in your revolver. You might want to run a dry copper brush in and out of the chambers a couple of times before you switch back to regular-powered LR loads.
I have fired probably 20,000 of those CCI CB Longs since they came out in the early 1770’s. 98% of the time in rifles. Love them. Great for shooting pest birds like Starlings, Sparrows, Pigeons, etc.
No powder just primer for propellant. Joe
AJ
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What was chambered for those in the 1770's?
THE PILGRIM
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Now I know why I don’t have any!
You guys have all of them!
Back in the day, have shot a bunch mostly in rifles.
Don’t recall seeing any lately.
You guys have all of them!
Back in the day, have shot a bunch mostly in rifles.
Don’t recall seeing any lately.
Good question. Actually, they DO have a few granules of powder in the case. Or at least the ones I pulled the bullets from in the 1970’s did.
There are other indoor gallery loads with really short copper cases that have been available for about 100 years that in fact are powder-less and rely on the explosive force of the priming compound only. They are VERY low-powered rounds suitable for close range target practice and shooting rats and mice where distances are measured in feet, maybe 40, tops; preferably much less.
One, known as the BB Cap, has a lead ball stuck in a very short copper case.
The other, known as the CB Cap, has a sharp-pointed lead bullet pressed into the mouth of yet another very short copper rimfire case.
The two loads mentioned above are packaged as loose rounds in small flat round plastic containers; at least that is all I have seen.
I have found that when fired in rifle barrels longer than about 20 to 22 inches, the additional friction actually slows the bullets down as the burning powder gasses start to poop out beyond 22 inches.
Eddie Southgate
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Those are not as good as the original CB or BB caps. Tried them , did not like them.
Way back in the '60's I remember (Flobert?) BB caps and pointed .22 short size conical caps, with copper cases that came in a cardboard tube, like a "tire tube repair kit" came in. Then again we're talking over half century ago so memory fails. Joe
Eddie Southgate
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The ones I bought then were RWS and came in a tin like Musket caps . They would kill a stray dog at 50 feet . They were accurate at 50 -75 feet too , these new ones built on short and long cases are not in my experience and not near as powerful. Of course at the time they were higher than the .22 shorts , long and Long Rifles but not like they are today . The last RWS original style CB caps I saw listed were $49.00 a tin . Still doable if you only use a few every now and then but I used to shoot a tin almost every day back then . I had the whole upstairs of my mama's house , three rooms with doors lined up . I hung a rag rug on a drying rack in one room and set a box stuffed with news paper in front of the rug with the target taped to that and shot from the farthest room. I shot a Ruger Bearcat or a S&W m34 at the time and killed many targets and not a few squirrels shooting them out of a wild cherry tree that was outside my bedroom window. Killed them as good as shorts and were very quiet doing it . I lived in town and never had a complaint .
RWS made both the Conical Ball and the BB (round) caps on the Flobert copper case and the Conical Ball also on the Short case. I prefer the Flobert case by far but used some of the short case CB in rifles because the Flobert cases were dang near impossible to load in a bolt gun but were fine in a Crack Shot or a Favorite , both of which I owned as well as a Remington model 6 and a Hamilton model 27 .
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