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Longmire's 45, what's up with that?
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rog8732
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Weren't Walt and Standing Bear's characters veterans of the Viet Nam war / debacle ?
Walt I believe a Marine M P ? Standing Bear "Special Forces".
I believe all G Is are trained to carry hammer down. Would probably be a habit difficult to break.
Movie makers DO love to have every gun have that cocking sound at it's time of need.
If you want to solve a real mystery try this one. Walt attended University of Southern California before service.
How on Earth did a USC grad decide to even take up a life-style that required a GUN !
Walt I believe a Marine M P ? Standing Bear "Special Forces".
I believe all G Is are trained to carry hammer down. Would probably be a habit difficult to break.
Movie makers DO love to have every gun have that cocking sound at it's time of need.
If you want to solve a real mystery try this one. Walt attended University of Southern California before service.
How on Earth did a USC grad decide to even take up a life-style that required a GUN !
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Rpg
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I suspect the prop he’s using in scenes with the gun in the holster is one of those things without moving parts: essentially a block of metal shaped and colored like a 1911.
Has more to do with what the costume and prop folks provide than the actor’s nationality.
Has more to do with what the costume and prop folks provide than the actor’s nationality.
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Arik
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Thank you!
Guys, it's not the actors or their characters. It's what's provided. Remember.....these props are RENTED!!! A fake gun doesn't cost the same as a real one. This includes transportation to the set and having a representative of the owning company be on set. For real guns an employee has to transport them back and forth from warehouse to location each day. Someone has to supervise to make sure a real gun doesn't disappear. That all costs money. A chunk of metal shaped like a gun can be left on set. For example....has anyone seen the movie DeadPool? The ending where DeadPool forgets his bag of gun in the taxi cab right before he goes to the last major battle wasn't part of the script. The reason he forgets his guns is because the budget was maxed out and they couldn't afford to pay for them anymore.
Movies and shows are not filmed in correct sequence either.
It also depends on how detailed the writers, producers and directors want to get.
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2ndAmendmentNut
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I know three different gentlemen that all served in various branches of the armed services. One keeps his 1911 with hammer down on an empty chamber because that is, “the way I was taught.” The second keeps his with a chambered round and the hammer on half cock because, “that is the way I was taught.” The third keeps his cocked and locked because “that is the way I was taught.” All are deadly with a 1911. If you read the manual you will be convinced the only safe way to carry is with the gun disassembled in at least three pieces.
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I carry my 1911's hammer down on loaded chamber. Not gonna change either.
See this thread:
Condition 1 - cocked and locked - technical question
A more important question is why is a Wyoming Sheriff carrying a 1911?
Shouldn't it be a BIG honking REVOLVER?
Condition 1 - cocked and locked - technical question
A more important question is why is a Wyoming Sheriff carrying a 1911?
Shouldn't it be a BIG honking REVOLVER?
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In my military days (NO, not the continental army !) we were taught "Condition 3" loaded magazine, empty chamber. hammer down. I knew a skinny, pimple face 17 year old with thick glasses that changed to "Condition 1" as soon as the guard mount departed, and back to "Condition 3" before the next guard mount.
Inusuit
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Spoiler alert. It's a TV show.
keith44spl
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In one scene,
it looked like a pre-war Gov't model with a lanyard loop on the mainspring housing........
The director's like to see their actor(s) cocking the hammer or racking the slide for dramatic effect.
Gees, it's jest a drama/sit-com.
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it looked like a pre-war Gov't model with a lanyard loop on the mainspring housing........
The director's like to see their actor(s) cocking the hammer or racking the slide for dramatic effect.
Gees, it's jest a drama/sit-com.
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LostintheOzone
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1911's aren't for LEO carry. This is a made for Nit flick series. No LEO carries a 1911. Nor do they use 94 Winchesters. Just roll with it.
The Colt 1911 was the Department issue of the Caribou County Sheriffs office from 1984 going on at least 5 years. I left for Montana in 87. My affiliation was a class 2 reserve officer and as such could furnish my own firearm of an approved list. 1911's were owned and issued by the SO.
Rifles or shotguns could be vehicle carried. Most carried a 12 gauge Remington 870 slug barrel. One officer had a 94 with him on several occasions but never in plain sight.
Rifles or shotguns could be vehicle carried. Most carried a 12 gauge Remington 870 slug barrel. One officer had a 94 with him on several occasions but never in plain sight.
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I depends on the situation....
.45 is a military pistol and and military training concentrates on battle conditions when contact with the enemy is imminent. When walking around in a civilian environment, such a ready position may not be as necessary as on the battlefield and it's the persons choice at what state of readiness is appropriate. Something I like about a hammer pistol is that the hammer can be thumbed back easily for dangerous situations.
.45 is a military pistol and and military training concentrates on battle conditions when contact with the enemy is imminent. When walking around in a civilian environment, such a ready position may not be as necessary as on the battlefield and it's the persons choice at what state of readiness is appropriate. Something I like about a hammer pistol is that the hammer can be thumbed back easily for dangerous situations.
Our local PD carries 1911 .45's and has since I've been living here (38 years). Used to be Colt's but now Kimber. Was told that last time they ordered pistols, Colt couldn't or wouldn't supply with the requested specifications, so they went with Kimber.
Absalom
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Actually, based on my experiences with movie productions in California (and they’re not extensive, so I’m not claiming special expertise), “fake guns” are hardly ever used. These are all perfectly normal firearms, unless it’s a sci-fi movie or some particular script requires a weapon that an ordinary gun plus CGI can’t deliver, or sometimes as “stunt doubles” in scenes where the character’s real gun may be abused or destroyed.
If you look carefully at the end credits of a film involving firearms, you’ll usually find an armorer or similarly titled person credited. That’s not one guy, but usually a contractor running a specialty business providing firearms and expertise to movie productions who is responsible for the guns used on the set, and who has control of them when they’re not in the hands of actors. That armorer frequently provides expert advice as to which guns to give to what character, and provides necessary training for the actors. Sometimes it’s a very small job, like maybe a murder mystery with only one gun, or a huge job, like a war movie.
I used to know a guy, very knowledgable about guns, who worked for an outfit like that. These people know exactly what they’re doing, and what the actors should be doing. HOWEVER, the artistic preferences of the director always come first, so when the director wants the dramatic effect of a slide being racked, or a hammer cocked, then that’s what’s going to happen, no matter how nonsensical.
