Rally at YOUR State Capital

There's a national movement organize and hold our own counter-protest in reaction to the "Children's March For Our Lives"

Let's all get involved and show them that we're a force to be reckoned with and we're every bit as determined and active as THEY are.

April 14, 2018: Patriotic Americans Plans Second Amendment Rallies At All State Capitals - Freedom Outpost
The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans - Events | Facebook

Time for us to show up, put our money (and time) where our mouth is, and actually DO something.

Wow, REALLY?!?
105 views over a 20 hour period and not even ONE comment?
No wonder the anti's are eating our lunch.
'Cmon guys, the idea is to hold one of these rallies at EVERY state capital. The 14th is a SATURDAY.
I intend to go to Olympia, and I've already posted this same call to action on 3 other gun sites.
Let's get off our duffs and DO something people - get involved!

I just found this post and haven't really had time to think about it. That said, I do wonder if this is such a positive thing. The antis may have wanted this all along...to bring us out on the pavement...so now there's an "us and them". I doubt we'll have numerical superiority over the opposition...and I have no doubt that media coverage will be negative...media "spin" will portray gun enthusiasts as a small "interest group." Again IDK if this is a good thing for the gun community. Why? Because the R2KBA is everybody's right...even the anti gunners enjoy a R2KBA whether or not they choose to exercise it. I also don't think we need to "counter protest" because we are in the right, living normal American lives and exercising freedoms we have had since 1776. What would we be protesting against?

Carson City, Nevada at the State Capitol at 11:00 AM on April 14. I will be there.

I am really glad that our ancestors in 1776 didn't have the same attitude!! Us against them, they have more than we do??? If not us, then who? If not now, then when?
I took an oath to defend the constitution in 1973. I will still uphold it! I may not be that young anymore but I won't back down or hide!! I will be in Atlanta on the 14th. Any fellow Georgians want to meet and show up?

500SNW said:

I just found this post and haven't really had time to think about it. That said, I do wonder if this is such a positive thing. The antis may have wanted this all along...to bring us out on the pavement...so now there's an "us and them". I doubt we'll have numerical superiority over the opposition...and I have no doubt that media coverage will be negative...media "spin" will portray gun enthusiasts as a small "interest group." Again IDK if this is a good thing for the gun community. Why? Because the R2KBA is everybody's right...even the anti gunners enjoy a R2KBA whether or not they choose to exercise it. I also don't think we need to "counter protest" because we are in the right, living normal American lives and exercising freedoms we have had since 1776. What would we be protesting against?

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If everyone adopts those attitudes, then you are probably right. If on the other hand just 10 thousand show up at every state capital our numbers will exceed theirs by a significant margin. They managed to rally a couple of hundred thousand in DC, and maybe about that many more across the country. We should be able to top that.

What would we be protesting? The 2200 gun laws that already infringe our rights! The new state laws being proposed - and in some places passed - almost every day! The AWB that is being proposed in Congress right now. Take your pick. Anyone who doesn't think we have anything to protest must be living under a rock!

BC38 said:

Wow, REALLY?!?
105 views over a 20 hour period and not even ONE comment?
No wonder the anti's are eating our lunch.

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There might be several reasons for the lack of response or interest here, or at least there is for my lack of interest.

There's another thread about this same group in the 2A Forum here.

The thing is, the "National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans" is more than a little vague about just who they are. I tend to look askance at folks who wave the flag but don't use their real names.

Their website states:

"The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans is a coalition of various Patriotic based group Leadership that has come together to unify our ideals and diligently work together to uphold the Constitution and improve the lives of Americans."

Sorry, but one sentence crammed to the gills with standard red, white, and blue rhetoric about a bunch of anonymous groups doesn't tell me a thing.

The site goes on to state:

"We come from all walks of life, including Three Percent groups and local Militias, in order to unite and tell the Country that it's time to put America back on track!"

Um...okay. Do the names Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols ring any bells here?

I'm exaggerating to make a point, of course. But my point is I don't know who they are and what they want or how they expect to achieve it. And I wouldn't show up at any "rally" or "protest" or whatever without knowing more about them.

There's another little blurb on their website that explains the Second Amendment to us. It's written by someone who calls himself "GatorThreePercent". I guess Mr. and Mrs. ThreePercent named their little boy "Gator"?

Their Facebook page is a joke. And I've never heard of David Clayton.

Sorry, but far as I'm concerned, this just has "fringe element" written all over it.

Sound harsh? It's only my opinion. This group isn't telling you one single thing about itself. Make up your own minds about them.

And the anti-gun-anti-2A groups are not eating our lunch.

You don't think the Anti's are making headway?

Look at Florida. They just got 3 new restrictions added. Bump stocks banned, high capacity magazines banned, and no long gun sales to 18-21 year olds.

Look at Vermont. The bill is on their governors desk waiting his signature to implement the same 3 measures - and he says he'll sign it, because "this is the new normal".

How many other states will follow suit if we don't stand up and show the anti-gun Millenial appeasing politicians that there are just as may of US who oppose these things as there are of THEM that support these new restrictions?

Maybe it isn't happening in YOUR state - yet - but let the momentum keep rolling in their favor and it will.
All its going to take is another couple of Parkland or Sandyhook or Newtown type events...

Mark my words.

I'm with Watchdog on this. Just who is this National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans? I never heard of them and as pointed out, their web site is a bit vague. I don't facebook, so I can't see much about them there. I went to their website and before I could find any real info, it cut me off and said I had to log in. But from what I did see, the primary content was all about this protest and nothing more.
Honestly, just the name rings of one of those flaky, so-called militia groups. You know, a bunch of crazy, fat guys running around the woods on weekends, dressed in camo and preparing for TEOTWAWKI or a violent overthrow of the government.
For all we know, they could be on some government watch list. Or just a bunch of wackos looking to promote themselves. Unless someone can provide some legitimate info on this organization, I prefer not to be associated with them.

OTOH, if a well known, legitimate 2nd Amendment organization, such as the NRA, GOA or even my state organization, (The Tennessee Firearms Association) were to stage a march or protest, you bet your rear end, I'd be there!

That's always the problem with these things. If you support the Constitution, you probably have a job. Will have to research this group. Besides, who's going to pay for my hotel, and bus ride, and feed me?????( sarcasm of course )..Support the NRA..

OK, for those who don't have a Facebook access, below is their statement about these events that you CAN'T see - since you can't visit and see all the content on their Facebook page.

Good evening fellow patriots! I have been seeing a lot of people on different posts about the rally suggestions having the mentality of "F the rules I will do what i want etc." I am the medical responder and NW Florida representative so wanted to give an idea of the reasoning behind the requests and what we are aiming for. We are asking all to be as non threatening as possible ie: dressed in plain clothes (no tactical gear or full camo) with concealed weapons as long as you are a permit holder, no racially charged posters or attire, no confederate flags etc now this is not because we are (excuse my language) some kind of *****s cowering to the liberals "feelings" and agenda or because we are disrespecting southern heritage and history, it is because it is IMPERATIVE for us to do everything in our power to prevent the leftist media from portraying us as racist, redneck, hillbilly, Nazi gun nuts that don't care about kids being killed, because our message is far more important than the need to make a personal statement at this time. We need to leave all other controversy out of this. This will be difficult as we all are not the type to sellout and tame our passions, but its so important bc we are the closest ever to a disarming/civil war type situation and must get our message out in a constructive way to stop this. I pray no one takes offense to this we just really have an uphill battle against all the misrepresentation and bias so we have to be proactive and err on the side of caution EDIT: People are getting mad and that isn't my intent so let me clarify, this is not a "do this or **** off" situation. You are free to do what is within your legal rights, just trying to give a different perspective on how youre perceived by outsiders sometimes, as I grew up in a liberal democrat environment for the most part having many different battles on issues bc I disagreed. So these are just some suggestions for the newcomer to the scene that could help preserve the reputation and focus of our cause.…

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FWIW this is a brand new organization and this effort to organize these rallies seems to be their only activity and mission at this point. The oldest thing on their Facebook page is dated March 14th. The supposed "student-lead" marches last weekend were organized in the last month since the Parkland tragedy. Likewise, The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans is an organization that was just recently formed - when the children started throwing their hissy-fit, and it has just ONE goal. To organize a demonstration by the Pro-2A groups to counter the left's propaganda efforts.

BTW, I'd like to see their website - because other than their Facebook page my searches aren't turning up any other website for them.

So, NOW what rationale can people come up with for NOT participating? The event is being organized to happen on a Saturday, when MOST of us aren't working, so that excuse is out. Admittedly we don't have a Daddy Big Bucks in the shadows getting behind this and bankrolling it, so if we want to make our voices heard we have to pull our own weight. Or we can sit back and make excuses and be complacent, and expect things to stay status-quo - all the while the Anti-2A forces keep building steam and picking us off one state at a time.

Our choice.

Scratch that. I found their website - it is National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans

They don't have much of a web page due to how new they are - and the fact that they don't have a Daddy Big Bucks backing them. Very basic and simple web page, and it was started just 3 days before the Facebook page on March 11, 2018.

As for GatorThreePercent, I'm not sure about the origins of this "handle", but I can't blame anyone involved in organizing this event for not wanting to give their name on the web - isn't anonymity why we have screen names here - rather than using our own real names? We all know there are people on the opposing side who wouldn't be above attacking us, our property, or our families - despite their supposed opposition to violence.

Anyway, here is the text of their full "mission statement" - as alluded to by our very own Watchdog.

The second amendment isn't just about guns. It's about supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression and the civic duty to act in defense of our families and our communities. From the enactment of the Bill of Rights through most of the 20th Century, the Second Amendment seems to have been understood to guarantee to every law-abiding responsible adult the right to possess arms.

The purpose of these events are to express the numerous and protean ways in which the concept of self-protection and expression related to the Constitution in the minds of its authors. For self-defense is indeed at the core of the Second Amendment and an element in the Founders' political thought generally.

At the same time it is important to realize that the Founding Fathers' view of self protection was not only more favorable but also more inclusive than the concept as disfavored by many modern thinkers. To the Founders and their intellectual progenitors, being prepared for self-defense was a moral imperative as well as a pragmatic necessity; moreover, its pragmatic value lay less in repelling usurpation than in deterring it before it occurred.

Modern thinkers feel the need to strip away our natural born right to self-protection by limiting the available weapons that are at our disposal. They blame mental illness without documentation. They blame everything except the sole responsible party, the person involved in the action.
With the support of thousands of American Patriots across this great country, we will assemble at every state capitol at 1pm CDT on Saturday April 14, 2018 to show our support for our 2nd Amendment rights and to support our Constitution as a whole. Please help support us to defend and educate about our founding documents and honor our Forefathers who sacrificed and dedicated so much for us to have the freedoms we do today!


Formation of the National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans

Posted by GatorThreePercent
March 11, 2018

A new day has dawned! The time for patriot groups squabbling among each other is over. The time to stand united is here, and it is time to tell our Government that we have a voice and we are here to fight to protect the Constitution against these well funded demands from the left and it's puppets.

The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans was founded in order to work together with all patriotic Americans who love their country and are tired of seeing the corrupt Government trample on the Constitution and break their oaths.

Please feel free to reach out to us or join our community! We have groups in all 50 States. You can find them by vising our Facebook page at The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans - Home | Facebook and clicking the button that says visit group.

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Sounds pretty subversive and shadowy to me. Better not have anything to do with them or these events. It will be much more effective to turn up our noses at social media, sit here in our little echo chamber and gripe & snipe about how many people are following (a.k.a LISTENING to) what that Hogg kid has to say! [/sarcasm]

BC38 said:

You don't think the Anti's are making headway?

Look at Florida. They just got 3 new restrictions added. Bump stocks banned, high capacity magazines banned, and no long gun sales to 18-21 year olds.

Look at Vermont. The bill is on their governors desk waiting his signature to implement the same 3 measures - and he says he'll sign it, because "this is the new normal".

How many other states will follow suit if we don't stand up and show the anti-gun Millenial appeasing politicians that there are just as may of US who oppose these things as there are of THEM that support these new restrictions?

Maybe it isn't happening in YOUR state - yet - but let the momentum keep rolling in their favor and it will.
All its going to take is another couple of Parkland or Sandyhook or Newtown type events...

Mark my words.

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The funny part is that you think a protest accomplishes something. The actively-anti don't care. The actively-pro feel good about themselves and go home. The big swath of people in the middle aren't going to notice, the media won't cover it, and even if they did, the Undecided 66% wouldn't notice.

Also, lulz @ doing rallies at state capitals on the weekend, when nobody is there.

Setting aside the culture war (which is being lost, and which this sort of thing actively hurts), this is an inept fumble at Doing Politics. We have what's called a "Two-Party System". Party A knows that they're not going to get our vote. Party B, on the other hand, knows that they're going to get our vote, because we'll never vote for Party A.

Hence, there's absolutely no incentive for Party B to go to the mat to defend us, or make smart trades (I'd gladly exchange the idiocy of bump stocks for something useful, like de-regulated suppressors), or to trade some other economic or legislative item for gun rights. Why should they? They gain nothing, and we'll keep voting for them.

Party A victories in PA and LA, by the way, are the best ******* news the gun rights movement has gotten in a while. If Party B wasn't paying attention, or if you missed it, here's the skinny: Party A ran two candidates who at least claimed to support gun rights, in traditionally Party B districts, and they won. Unfortunately, that message was blotted out by our mouth-breathing autist media, who turned it into some sort of referendum on the president, because that's as far as they're able to analyze anything.

Repeating: Party A vocalized some support for gun rights, and they went 2 for 2 in special elections. I just hope they weren't too dumb to notice that.

If you want to actually do something useful on the political front, go join your local Party B. There's always one at the county level, frequently at the town level as well. Attend meetings, and when asked, introduce yourself as an NRA member. Be subtle, dress like a normal human, no need to deck yourself out in your best Don't Tread On Me garb and a plate carrier.

And hey, if you want, go join Party A. It's okay. Especially if you're already a member of Party A, and are getting tired of every gunny person out there acting like anybody who votes that column on the ballot is Satan. But if you want to really help gun rights, attend your local meetings, and come out as an NRA supporter. Answer questions. Humanize gun owners to a roomful of people. Make it clear that they can win even in uphill districts if they stop beating the Gun Control Drum.

But a march on state capitals? It's nothing more than a feel-good bellyrub.

Wise_A said:

The funny part is that you think a protest accomplishes something. The actively-anti don't care. The actively-pro feel good about themselves and go home. The big swath of people in the middle aren't going to notice, the media won't cover it, and even if they did, the Undecided 66% wouldn't notice.

Also, lulz @ doing rallies at state capitals on the weekend, when nobody is there.

Setting aside the culture war (which is being lost, and which this sort of thing actively hurts), this is an inept fumble at Doing Politics. We have what's called a "Two-Party System". Party A knows that they're not going to get our vote. Party B, on the other hand, knows that they're going to get our vote, because we'll never vote for Party A.

Hence, there's absolutely no incentive for Party B to go to the mat to defend us, or make smart trades (I'd gladly exchange the idiocy of bump stocks for something useful, like de-regulated suppressors), or to trade some other economic or legislative item for gun rights. Why should they? They gain nothing, and we'll keep voting for them.

Party A victories in PA and LA, by the way, are the best ******* news the gun rights movement has gotten in a while. If Party B wasn't paying attention, or if you missed it, here's the skinny: Party A ran two candidates who at least claimed to support gun rights, in traditionally Party B districts, and they won. Unfortunately, that message was blotted out by our mouth-breathing autist media, who turned it into some sort of referendum on the president, because that's as far as they're able to analyze anything.

Repeating: Party A vocalized some support for gun rights, and they went 2 for 2 in special elections. I just hope they weren't too dumb to notice that.

If you want to actually do something useful on the political front, go join your local Party B. There's always one at the county level, frequently at the town level as well. Attend meetings, and when asked, introduce yourself as an NRA member. Be subtle, dress like a normal human, no need to deck yourself out in your best Don't Tread On Me garb and a plate carrier.

And hey, if you want, go join Party A. It's okay. Especially if you're already a member of Party A, and are getting tired of every gunny person out there acting like anybody who votes that column on the ballot is Satan. But if you want to really help gun rights, attend your local meetings, and come out as an NRA supporter. Answer questions. Humanize gun owners to a roomful of people. Make it clear that they can win even in uphill districts if they stop beating the Gun Control Drum.

But a march on state capitals? It's nothing more than a feel-good bellyrub.

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All good ideas which I wholeheartedly support and something I hope you and many of us are/will do.

So you think 10,000 people showing up at each of the 50 state capitals wouldn't make an impression, huh? All because it won't get positive coverage by the press? How about all the people who will see it with their own eyes? Think it wouldn't make any impression on them?

I'm of the opinion we need to get as organized as they are, and start using some of the same tools. Otherwise the 66% in the middle are going to see THEM active and not see us at ALL. Most of them are not going to go to the Party A or Party B meetings.

So maybe we just need to do nothing and accept our fate. That'll teach 'em...

(1) Ten thousand people aren't going to show up. That's wildly optimistic, and not even logistically-possible. Even presuming, for instance, people averaged 3 to a car, that's 3000 parking spaces.

(2) No, even if they did, it still wouldn't be covered. You're really underestimating media bias. Also, protip: that Saturday thing keeps coming up, it's no good for news, either.

(3) Even if it were covered, the Undecided 66% still wouldn't care. And like I said--it's on a Saturday. Nobody's going to see it with their own eyes, and the ones that are unlucky enough to live nearby are just going to be annoyed.

(4) Protests aren't organization. Everytown For Gun Safety is organization.

(5) Protests don't change anybody's mind. They already know we exist. Protests are sort of the problem. You get a few hundred sloppy neckbeards groaning about MUH RIGHTS, it sort've drowns out reasoned arguments about the criminalization of law-abiding citizens.

Otherwise the 66% in the middle are going to see THEM active and not see us at ALL. Most of them are not going to go to the Party A or Party B meetings.

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The following is important. I'm not even kidding or trolling you.

Re-read the thing I wrote about one party knowing they can never get our votes, and the other side knowing we don't have an alternative but to vote for them. The point of that is that we don't have any political influence. Nobody is competing for our vote.

Now--if you want to block stupid legislation, you need influence. Raw votes aren't important, because in most cases, citizens don't directly vote on legislation. So who does?

State legislators: the assembly and the senate.

Who picks the people who are going to run for state legislative positions?

The county political committees.

So when one gun owner shows up to a county party meeting, that person is sitting in a room with the folks who decide who decide who's going to get the party nominations for the state senate and assembly. There are elections, but they're basically pro forma at that point. The more involved you get, the smaller the rooms get. Even just volunteering to pass out fliers or work phones during local and state elections buys you direct access. The people who will be deciding whether to vote for or against the next gun control measure in your state will shake your hand, ask you your name, and where you're from. And yeah, it makes an impression when you add "...from XYZ Rod and Gun Club" after your name.

And I can tell you: I have watched the NRA back a candidate weak on guns, because the Party B committee chose that person over a strong 2A candidate.

Which is also why I say it doesn't matter whether a 2A-conscious gun owner is a Party A or a Party B. To be honest, we have a lot more influence if we're rooted into both of them. Not going to happen so long as Michael Bloomberg is around and Party A is broke as hell. Party A is short on cash but long on volunteer organizations. Party B is well-funded, but desperate for local volunteers...yet another reason why what I'm suggesting has the potential to be so effective. If they're dependent on us for volunteers, that's an awful lot of influence to wield.

And by the way: Party B has a majority in the Florida state senate, 23 to 15, with a Party B governor. That's a lot of raw votes. So tell me--how the hell did they manage to get the most radical disenfranchisement of American citizens passed? Because Party B just didn't give a ****, because Florida gun owners have zero political influence.

Up next: Vermont!

Trying to fight the fight out on the street is hard work, and just isn't as effective as working the small rooms.

Anybody remember the "American Spring"? I think they said a million Tea Partiers were supposed to show up. I heard only about 100 people, at most, showed up. It ended up doing more harm than good to the image of Conservative activism. As I said before there is nothing to protest, nothing to demonstrate against. It is business as usual for us. Until there is additional legislation, pending or passed, there is no need to take to the streets. Doing so at this point only gives legitimacy to the "March For Our Lives" movement. I'm against this "Norma Rae" **** for the time being. I won't be there.