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Old 08-02-2020, 05:17 PM
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Anyone seen it. Has excellent
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It's about the current Afghan
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Watched it twice all the way through if that’s any indication. Watched the last 20 minutes or so two or three times (usually the last 30 min has all the good action).
GREAT movie !
Also “The Last Full Measure” is a great movie!

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Has Scott Eastwood and 4.5 stars on Amazon. I can’t wait to watch.
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Per Wikipedia:

”The film tells the story of the 53 U.S. soldiers and two Latvian military advisors who battled a force of some 400 enemy insurgents in north-eastern Afghanistan during Operation Enduring Freedom. Originally built to engage the locals in community development projects, Combat Outpost Keating — located at the bottom of three steep mountains just 14 miles from the Pakistani border — faced a constant threat of being attacked by the Taliban, putting the U.S. soldiers stationed there at significant risk. When the Taliban heard of US military officials intentions to close the outpost, they decided to make a statement.

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The film story is based on the bravery of a small unit of U.S. soldiers, alone at the remote Combat Outpost Keating. The Battle of Kamdesh, as it was known, was the bloodiest American engagement of the Afghan War in 2009 and Bravo Troop 3-61 CAV became one of the most decorated units of the 19-year conflict.

It was located deep in the valley of three mountains in Afghanistan, battles to defend against an overwhelming force of Taliban fighters in a coordinated attack.”


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My nephew has been in this unit and knew several of the soldiers involved, including the MoH winner Ramesha but was not in this battle. There are several books out on this battle but the best one I think is The Outpost by Jake Tapper.
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Agree. This is an excellent movie. My wife enjoyed it also. We plan to purchase the BluRay when it is released.

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The only time in the last 50 years two living soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor for the same action.
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Has Scott Eastwood and 4.5 stars on Amazon. I can’t wait to watch.
"spittin' image of his pops".

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I watched half of it last night...felt the need to sleep around 4AM.

Finishing it up now, and I'd swear I saw a movie just like it a couple years ago. I checked to see if it was a remake, but couldn't find anything.

I know for a fact the other movie I saw had the same battle scene. Taliban in the wire, dudes stuck in Humvee's.
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I saw a documentary on that fight. When I saw a CGI of the outpost and surrounding mountains, I couldn't help thinking someone was negligent. It was like that little post was in the bottom of a well with shooting galleries all around the top of the well house. Those poor guys were guaranteed targets from bad guys firing down on them from good cover up the mountain sides. It was a huge credit to the troops' courage and fighting skills that they survived at all.
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I saw a documentary on that fight. When I saw a CGI of the outpost and surrounding mountains, I couldn't help thinking someone was negligent. It was like that little post was in the bottom of a well with shooting galleries all around the top of the well house. Those poor guys were guaranteed targets from bad guys firing down on them from good cover up the mountain sides. It was a huge credit to the troops' courage and fighting skills that they survived at all.
As a matter of fact a number of officers
received reprimands for allowing such an outpost.
Because Camp Outpost Keating was to be closed,
the brass decided not to fortify as necessary. And
it was obviously a misjudgment as to its location.

As in current and past conflicts, the American
infantry as are all infantries "expendable."

To Wood714, you are probably referring to
"Restrepo," a documentary depicting the
same sort of outpost as Keating with much
the same misery and deaths while achieving
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I saw "Restrepo" some time ago, it was good.
Thanks for the tip on "Outpost" shall add it to playlists now, to watch later. I believe I saw the documentary coverage on this battle, also! Could not believe the insanity of placement of said outpost and the exposure.
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YouTube has the MH ceremonies for the two real recipients.
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The more I've been thinking about
the movie "The Outpost" and the
documentary "Resrepo" the more
angry I've become over our
infantry "expendables."

As repeated often in "The Outpost"
that poo about "thank you for your
service" doesn't cover the sacrifice
by the grunts but does seem to
almost justify the incompetence
of the higher commands in
Washington and in the field
that have committed our troops to such
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I served as a Marine Infantryman in Vietnam. Infantry have always been expendable hence the nick name of cannon fodder. The Corps decided it was cheaper to keep us in the boonies We rarely to back to the rear. They also treated the infantry like dirt to keep us po'ed so we were more aggressive. Many of us prefered the jungle to the rear because we were with our own.
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Outstanding movie. Sad what these young men went through. Angered that they were put there. Proud that they fought for their brothers.
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The movie's release was one of the pandemic's victims. While it had limited theatrical release, the producers went mainly with a pay-per-view release instead. It is running now at several theaters in San Antonio. Should be out on DVD and at Redbox in early October. I'll wait for that.

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I just finished the movie. It is inconceivable to me that any military, much less from the most powerful, wealthiest country in the world, would establish such an outpost on that terrain with limited to no air cover, limited resupply and limited to no fortification. Simply unbelievable. It’s as if they were trying to allow the men to be slaughtered.

It was a real-world example of “shooting fish in a barrel.”
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Here’s a picture of the camp. Might as well been a box canyon.
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I just finished the movie. It is inconceivable to me that any military, much less from the most powerful, wealthiest country in the world, would establish such an outpost on that terrain with limited to no air cover, limited resupply and limited to no fortification. Simply unbelievable. It’s as if they were trying to allow the men to be slaughtered.

It was a real-world example of “shooting fish in a barrel.”
They kept calling the decorated officer a coward for peeing in bottles........in reality, he was damn smart.

Can’t imagine holding off an enemy for two hours to get air support in this era..... unbelievable!!!!
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I saw the trailer, looks very good.
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Another great movie, if you haven't seen, is 12 Strong. It covers a special forces team in the very earliest days of the Afghanistan conflict (as in one month following Sept. 11). Very well done and fun to watch.
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I went on such a rant about the way the infantry that I forgot to post that I hadn't seen the movie yet I did read the book. Great book, but sad to see the number of lessons were forgotten that led up to this event.

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I don't think that this thread on "Outpost" has gone zombie yet, so just wanted to point out that it's on Netflix now. Wife and I streamed it last night. A great and terrible story, all at the same time, with visual effects of the battle that make you feel you are right there. Loud explosions at unexpected times, too, so don't be holding your glass while you watch this one.

That part of Afghanistan in the Hindu Kush Mountains is rugged almost beyond belief. And whoever's bright idea it was to build that camp there should have been drummed out of the service along with the four officers who were reprimanded for not adequately resupplying and fortifying the post. The Taliban were able to dial in all the strong points and critical locations over a period of time before the battle, so when it went off, our guys had a hell of a fight to deal with. Amazing that only eight of the approximately 80 defenders died, and another 27 were wounded. The most decorated unit in the Army after that battle, including the two MOHs, a couple of DSCs, and several Bronze and Silver Stars.

Funny thing my wife asked me during the movie: "Do all soldiers have such potty mouths?" In circumstances like those, yeah, honey.

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It was intense.

Make sure to watch it all the way through the credits.
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Poor leadership at higher levels of command caused this incident. Grunts paid for it.
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It is indeed. Have you read the book? Done any research on what happened?

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I saw a documentary on that fight. When I saw a CGI of the outpost and surrounding mountains, I couldn't help thinking someone was negligent. It was like that little post was in the bottom of a well with shooting galleries all around the top of the well house. Those poor guys were guaranteed targets from bad guys firing down on them from good cover up the mountain sides. It was a huge credit to the troops' courage and fighting skills that they survived at all.
That was the very impression that I got also, and *negligent*
is about the mildest term I would use for the bright sparks that decided on that location in the first place.

Has anyone read the book by Jake Tapper? I'm just wondering if he did any follow up on what happened to the brass that picked that particular 'well' in the first place?

I'll watch it again, but not right away. The sheer stupidity of that location is just mind bending.

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I have. As I have researched many things that are memorialized in books and movies. I have actually participated in a couple events that are memorialized in books and film, some thru so-called documentaries. There are nuggets of truth in all, but the fiction genre' rarely gets the story totally correct and sometimes totally misses it. I take all that with a grain of salt and try to enjoy the entertainment . . .

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The movie was very intense and also showed the incredible bravery of our fighting men. What fool thought it was a good idea to place an outpost in the bottom of a valley surrounded by mountains on all sides. I can only assume it might have had something to do with " political correctness" or some such thing. Thanks God we have brave young men and women willing to go in harms way for our country.
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What fool thought it was a good idea to place an outpost in the bottom of a valley surrounded by mountains on all sides. I can only assume it might have had something to do with " political correctness" or some such thing.
He probably got a promotion out of it.

I bought the movie on blue ray last weekend, but haven't watched it yet.
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Yes, and in exchange for their willingness and courage, they deserve leadership that will not place them in deadly, untenable situations that, with reasonable oversight and planning, could have been avoided. I agree with the description of that camp as a "s***hole," and it richly earned its destruction by our side after it was closed.
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It’s a very good movie, well worth watching. But in the end, it’s a movie, entertainment.
BTW, a small nit, but one that I find almost disrespectful. Service members are AWARDED the MOH for valor “above and beyond” their call of duty. They are referred to as Awardees or Recipient, not winner. It’s not a contest. I’ve had the honor and pleasure of knowing several MOH Recipients. These man are beyond “Hero’s”.
Sorry if I may have offered anyone, it wasn’t my intent.
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