Repairing my gun safe

Tex1001 · Nov 16, 2022

Five years ago I bought a gun safe with an electric combination lock. Last June the lock started eating 9v batteries (One every 6-7 days with no usage). But that is not the subject of this thread.
I replaced it with a top of the line S&G commercial heavy duty lock that I'm verry happy with.
Hidden within the written material, was the confident statement that the lock is EMP resistant. For those not acquainted EMP stands for Electro Magnetic Pulse, generated by a nuclear explosion. This pulse will render most electronic devices dead in the water.
Please refrain from political posts on world events in this thread.
My curiosity concerns this:

If there is a nuclear event in this country How many gun safes will be locked closed with fused lock electronics.

Has any one else considered whether their house defense and personal defense weapons would be unobtainable for an extended length of time when they may be needed most. Apparently I'm now covered.
Curious as to your thoughts?

lihpster · Nov 16, 2022

I'm more worried about the zombies.

Breakaway500 · Nov 16, 2022

I don’t trust any of the E-lectronic locks etc mainly because they give me enough grief without help from an EMP.
Keeping certain things simple in a complex world has its advantages.

SS336 · Nov 16, 2022

lihpster said:
I'm more worried about the zombies.

I agree.
But if that and the fact that electronic locks have a few disadvantages maybe just get a high quality S&G combination lock. One of my gun safes is over 20 years old and no batteries or problems. Works every time.

Tex1001 · Nov 16, 2022

Breakaway500 said:
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Keeping certain things simple in a complex world has its advantages.

All of my small safes have Simplex (Mechanical) locks as does my big garage safe. I agree with keeping it simple. But so many (All?) of the new safes are electronic.

pharmer · Nov 16, 2022

I have a Treadlok safe that is 1987 vintage. The S&G is the best but after many moves and bumps the dial is loose. I will replace the current set with a "group 2" S&G because I can't afford tp replace it with a quality American made safe currently available. Even paying a professional to do the work it'll be worth the trouble. I have never been a fan of the electronic locks but I have never owned one. Joe

Onomea · Nov 16, 2022

Tex1001 said:
All of my small safes have Simplex (Mechanical) locks as does my big garage safe. I agree with keeping it simple. But so many (All?) of the new safes are electronic.

Guy in a local safe store told me that for most/all of his safes, one could specify electronic or mechanical for the lock.

ralph7 · Nov 16, 2022

How many of us will still be alive after a nuclear explosion to worry about getting in our safes?

michael1000 · Nov 16, 2022

ralph7 said:
How many of us will still be alive after a nuclear explosion to worry about getting in our safes?

Besides, who's going to invade after dropping the bomb? This will be 'dirty ground' for years to come.

steelslaver · Nov 16, 2022

Unless it is a steel reinforced concrete vault I can get in in less than 30 minutes anyway. Even a EMP won't disable my chains, bars, clamps and port a powers. Safe might get totally trashed, but it WILL open.

SmithNut · Nov 16, 2022

steelslaver said:
.............. EMP won't disable my chains, bars, clamps and port a powers. Safe might get totally trashed, but it WILL open............

Don't you need a car/truck to pull on the chains, bars and clamps?????

Hope you have an EMP proof vehicle..... Just wondering...

Rpg · Nov 16, 2022

steelslaver said:
Unless it is a steel reinforced concrete vault I can get in in less than 30 minutes anyway. Even a EMP won't disable my chains, bars, clamps and port a powers. Safe might get totally trashed, but it WILL open.

Yes, but I suspect that few, if any, zombies or regular burglars have your array of equipment or the ability to use the equipment.

steelslaver · Nov 16, 2022

michael1000 said:
Besides, who's going to invade after dropping the bomb? This will be 'dirty ground' for years to come.

Depends on the number of bombs and where. If you are over 5 miles from the drop of a 10 kiloton nuke you will probably survive the explosion and the wind is a big factor on radiation as well as type of bomb. Maximum dangerous fallout would occur within about 100 miles down wind within about a 2 day period from that size bomb.

They do not have to target populations, but infrastructures. A much larger concern would be the infrastructure damage, power grids, water distribution, refining and fuel distribution, food distribution. Targeting manufacturing would curtail military responses and of course the workers living near them. I believe most of the people in a large metropolitan areas will perish from lack of food and water more than bombs and radiation. Most of the exits would rapidly become choked and then impassable. Major radiation deaths would occur within those zones previously mentioned and even in those the amount would drop off to the point after about 12 weeks to being long term effects rather than short term.

My problem is there are numerous missile silos within close proximity to me. Nearest is less than 2 miles it the target them. But, why target missile silos that will most likely launch before they can be hit and destroyed. Approx 20-30 minutes from lunch to arrival, Less is launched from a sub.

ladder13 · Nov 16, 2022

I hope Dante’s pizza shop is functional.

steelslaver · Nov 16, 2022

Rpg said:
Yes, but I suspect that few, if any, zombies or regular burglars have your array of equipment or the ability to use the equipment.

My point was I am hardly worried about one of my safes being disabled by an EMP. But, also in the case a steel reinforced vault, well placed explosives will open those.

wood714 · Nov 16, 2022

I have 3 safes, all old fashion combination locks.

If a nuclear explosion hits. I hope to be in the vaporize zone, and not worry about anything.

SMSgt · Nov 16, 2022

It's not the lock being fused that concerns me.

Rustyt1953 · Nov 16, 2022

My gun safe has a mechanical lock and Ruthie has the combination. The first things to go in an EMP will be my pacemaker and forum connection.

Like Kev, I'll be beyond caring.

Claymore33 · Nov 16, 2022

Not mine, I have 2 keyed locks. No combination to remember or to seize up.

wood714 · Nov 16, 2022

Rustyt1953 said:
My gun safe has a mechanical lock and Ruthie has the combination. The first things to go in an EMP will be my pacemaker and forum connection.

Like Kev, I'll be beyond caring.

I think You'd last longer without the pacemaker than lack of forum access.

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