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I watched Joe Kidd for the first time since viewing it about 40 years ago. At that time I was not a collector (or is it "accumulator"?) that I am now, so on this viewing I appreciated the historical weapons that director Sturges used on the movie. Lots of guns rarely seen in other movies. But what wasn't very historically accurate (is it ever?) and made me laugh was watching Clint spray about 22 bullets from his 10 round fixed-magazine Broom Handle Mauser! Clint then threw it down and ran for his escape, sort of implying "hell with this crazy thing!, I'm outta here!".

Anyhow, still enjoyed the movie even though not one of his best. Clint swore after that movie that he would never take direction in any future western unless HE was the director. And he stuck by that. And his own westerns were always superior after that. Shows he knew what he was doing.
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Watched it the other night on Netflix. Liked seeing those old blasters for sure.

Especially the Savage 99.


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Not a fan of Clint Eastwoood westerns, but John Sturges was easily the best action film director ever. Maybe even the best make mistakes occasionally. I was unaware he had directed an Eastwood western.
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I enjoyed Joe Kidd when it came out and for several years thereafter. Duvall wore his character well.

I have no plans to revisit it.
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I liked the movie when it came out and still do. I watch it whenever it is on and I run across it.
It is very loosely based on an actual event that occurred in a town of Tierra Amarilla in New Mexico the 60's I think. I have read that at least.
I spent 4 days in Tierra Amarilla 4 years ago hunting. No one mentioned it and it is a very small place.
I did kill a big cow elk so I like the place.
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I watched Joe Kidd for the first time since viewing it about 40 years ago. At that time I was not a collector (or is it "accumulator"?) that I am now, so on this viewing I appreciated the historical weapons that director Sturges used on the movie. Lots of guns rarely seen in other movies. But what wasn't very historically accurate (is it ever?) and made me laugh was watching Clint spray about 22 bullets from his 10 round fixed-magazine Broom Handle Mauser! Clint then threw it down and ran for his escape, sort of implying "hell with this crazy thing!, I'm outta here!".

Anyhow, still enjoyed the movie even though not one of his best. Clint swore after that movie that he would never take direction in any future western unless HE was the director. And he stuck by that. And his own westerns were always superior after that. Shows he knew what he was doing.
Remember that after he kills Lamar he takes Lamar's Broomhandle and hat. There were spare clips in the hat band. SO, while the reloads may not have been shown, it is possible Joe Kidd could have sprayed "about 22 bullets" then discarded the empty pistol as he was then out of ammo/reloads for it.
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I just read that Lynne Marta passed away 3 weeks ago at 78.

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For my money, Letters from Iwo Jima was his best director effort.
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Watched it the other night on Netflix. Liked seeing those old blasters for sure.

Especially the Savage 99.


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I watched it again, 2-3 months ago. Great flick.
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Don Stroud's character "Lamarr Simms" with the broom handle made the whole movie. It would have been less than memorable without him.

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My favorite scene was the flowerpot scene!
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I liked that movie.
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I Love Clint’s Westerns!
This may be the one I love the Least!
Just checked, it’s on Netflix.
Might watch it again just to see those Guns and that Train roll into the Bar.
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I just watched it a little while back. My biggest complaint with it was there were no good guys.
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Don Stroud's character "Lamar" with the broom handle made the whole movie. It would have been less than memorable without him.
Maybe my favorite Eastwood moment ever was him wordlessly yanking Lamar down the stairs by his belt buckle.
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Maybe my favorite Eastwood moment ever was him wordlessly yanking Lamar down the stairs by his belt buckle.
My favorite movie line:

"Yeah, well, Mr. Harlan wants you around, that's the only reason I don't plug you right now.."
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5 bucks says I can break your neck before you move that thing one inch.


In the cut version with ads, when Clint shoots the guy sniping from the mountain it shows him looking thru the scope, making an elevation / windage adjustment then hitting him first shot. In the un-edited one he adjusts the scope after taking a shot and seeing the impact.
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I think it’s the first movie noticed guys in the foreground getting shot before you heard the report of the rifle off in the distance
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Good Western of that period. Far better than Hang 'em High which is barely above the quality of a TV movie.
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I, too, just watched it on Netflix. Haven't seen it since it first came out. I was surprised to see that it was based on the book by Elmore Leonard.
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In the cut version with ads, when Clint shoots the guy sniping from the mountain it shows him looking thru the scope, making an elevation / windage adjustment then hitting him first shot. In the un-edited one he adjusts the scope after taking a shot and seeing the impact.
Isn't the 'scope (a Winchester A5 ?) mounted backwards on the T/D Ross rifle?.

Not that it would make a difference with Clint using it I suppose...
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Joe Kidd should get an Oscar just for being able to work a scoped Remington-Keene, Ross Model 10 and a Broomhandle into the same script. The 99 that Harlan has is really nice and would be period correct but the scope looks a little modern to me.
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Valdez is coming.
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Another oldie starring a broomhandle Mauser is 1975's "Lucky Lady" with Burt Reynolds and Gene Hackman as a pair of rum runners during prohibition. Also features a Purdey double gun named "Old Purdey."
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Valdez is coming.
Never saw it.
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If you like westerns, you're missing out.
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Never saw it.
You should. Good movie.
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In the 1990 "Quigley Down Under," much is made
of the Sharp's ability to reach out.

But in the 1971 "Valdez Is Coming," it is just a
matter of fact long range killer. As Valdez says,
"it's my own load."

"Valdez Is Coming" and "Joe Kidd" are both
Elmore Leonard stories. Guess he was
fascinated by long-range rifles.
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