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..... A repeat of a Weimar Republic or Rhodesia situation is much more likely.
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Not me, but I do regret not buying gold in '98 when they were closing mines here in Nevada and gold dipped below $300/oz. Of course, I didn't know that the 2-3 year job I started in '97 would result in me still being here 25+ years later.
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Between the zombie apocalypse and the Weimar Republic there is probably a more probable outcome than those two extremes. Precious metals can be a good diversifier as they are a non-correlated asset. You don't have to buy physical gold. You can buy mining company shares or depository ETFs like GLD.
Think of it as a hedge against a market apocalypse...
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FWIW, I understand the idea that PM's always "hold" their value relative to the cost of other goods.
But it seems to me that in a true SHITF scenario, my meager collection of handguns, ammo, and reloading supplies will hold more immediate value than their weight in silver and gold.
From my perspective, a complete societal collapse seems the more likely thing to prepare for - rather than just an economic collapse.
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Gold at 2340. Silver over 27. FOMO buying?
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NO REGRETS - Local Sell Back Price Offers just insults
Insulting buy offers this week from local pawn shop,
Did not meet Alla Baba and the other 39.
I was offered $585 for a 27.8 grams 14K necklace with a MELT VALUE or just over $1200.
I was also offered EIGHTY CENTS for Pre 64 Silver dimes with MELT VALUE of almost $2.00.
Have a couple of more places to price check in area.
Probably will have to ship.
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8 cents for a silver dime, face value is 10 cents. WTH.
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Insulting buy offers this week from local pawn shop,
I was offered $585 for a necklace with a MELT VALUE or just over $1200.
I was also offered EIGHT CENTS for Pre 64 Silver dimes with MELT VALUE of almost $2.00.
Have a couple of more places to price check in area.
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Was headed to TJ in '67 with a Girlfriend.
TSgt buddy asked if would drop off 200 pounds of gold, from his family's old gold mine, while I was there.
My only question, "will the prison owners allow my sweetheart and I, to bunk in the same jail cell?"
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He understood my .... No thanks.
My regret was not buying his freshly skinned, zero time since overhauled '47 Aeronca Champ, that his family bought new in '47.
Price to me was less than 1K.
Sad but true... as I was invested in building a Harley chopper.
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When it was $35 here, I bought Gold in Thailand for around $50 an ounce.
Should have bought more!
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Or Costco
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My father, a relatively poor man, advised me at an early age - "ya don't get something for nothing, there's no free lunch, and never gamble that which you cannot afford to lose".
Risk verses rewards . . . . I have personally known three millionaires;
The first one made it, lost it, made it back and lost it again, dying pretty much broke.
The next one made it and lost it twice - the second time he had to borrow $1500 from a friend to buy a 12 year old pickup truck to drive around town before he clawed his way out of it and made his fortune a third time - this time he seems to be holding onto it pretty good and finally retired.
The third one made his by screwing over everyone he ever dealt with or ever did business with, lived high and died with a big bankroll - he still died and my estimate is his new reality now makes the equatorial tropics look comfortably cool.
I sit back and try to appreciate the blessings the good Lord has afforded me, remember where they come from, and endeavor to show my gratitude daily.
No precious metals to speak of, though I do buy primers when I find a deal occasionally . . .
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I consulted my financial advisor, Old Gabby. Here's what he had to say:
"You young whippersnappers are a fine bunch of gun enthusiasts. Dagnabbit, doncha know that for smart gun owners, the only real investment is .22lr ammo? I guess you haven't been reading the Forum posts where some of our members bought hundreds of thousands of rounds for 1/2 cent per round back in the day. Today, the yellow-bellied sapsucker dealers selling .22lr ammo are getting 8, 9, or even 10 cents per round. They're just hornswoggling bushwhackers. Outrageous! So us old-timers who've been hording our stash and bragging about the prices we paid, can now cash in for 10-20 times our original investment. That's smart, like a wolverine in heat! So buy your .22lr ammo now. In a few years when a new generation of young whippersnappers are complaining about paying 80-90 cents per round, you can cash in big, yer durn tootin'!
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A lot of people on this forum seem to like gold & silver as an investment. Whenever I’ve looked at it the commissions killed the idea for me. There is a large well known precious mental dealer near me with a running ticker on their website. It just never made sense for me. Especially selling it. I think it would be kinda neat to have bars stacked up in my safe but cash is just easier.
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Gold at $2,300 an ounce simply means me that the dollar is getting weaker.
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What I gathered from a sophisticated presentation online was that the looming bumps in gold and silver price is due to the years of gold and silver market manipulation that has squeezed itself into a paucity of physical metal volume needed to make good on their high in the clouds,wheeling and dealing.
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You know, when it's.....
When it's $5000/oz we'll kick ourselves for not taking this opportunity.
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Why would anyone then be selling now at 2300?
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Miners pretty much have to sell. That's their business after all, dig it up and sell it.
There are lots of different participants in any market. Each with their own motivations. Some sell simply because they need the money for something else. Maybe they've decided it has just run its course at the exact same time somebody else decides they need to get in. It's a market of humans making decisions. The odds are 50% will be wrong, 50% will be right.
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Why does anyone sell anything?
It's all gambling. Some are betting the price will go up. Some are betting it will go down. Some are in it for the short term, some for the long term.
As had been said before - it is not an investment. It isn't for growing wealth. It is a method to preserve some wealth that has already been earned through other means.
It is similar to holding part of your assets in cash - it is something physically in your possession, has value, but hopefully won't be destroyed by inflation.
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Why would anyone want to buy when it is at the highest level?
Buy value on ______ when "it" is in the tanks. Just my opinion. NFA.
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I love PM ....that said silver is a sucker bet.....$3.50 over spot when you buy and $1 under when you sell! Gold better but say you need $1000 , they dont make change so you need to sell a whole 1oz which screws you if it keeps going up. then there is the issue......where to go to sell it?? One might be better off buy extra liquor, reloading supplies , or food! I sold 90% of my PM yrs ago.
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Gold up $100 since OP to $2370
I expect institutional selling to take profits to kick in soon
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Profit taking always a possibility.
This time The heavy Ton Buyers appear to be major Players like the Chinese.
They appear to be buying for the long term.
Who owns the most Gold?
Us, US Gov. 8000+ Tons.
Most of it is stored at Ft. Knox and West Point.
How come the Army has the Gold?
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Profit taking always a possibility.
This time The heavy Ton Buyers appear to be major Players like the Chinese.
They appear to be buying for the long term.
Who owns the most Gold?
Us, US Gov. 8000+ Tons.
Most of it is stored at Ft. Knox and West Point.
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Seen a couple shows on the boob tube that might argue about that!
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Actually no!
A very big long running conspiracy theory is there is no gold in there. Over the course of time I have seen a few of those theories on the TV and in print.
Is it possible yes, probable no. Either way no common people will ever get to know the answer.
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Inflation is not stopping anytime soon. Your cash in the bank is losing value 6% or more every year at the current rate. All the gold buying is spurred on and a hedge against that. Mining company stocks have been going up and will go up a lot more than actual gold prices.
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Tonight gold hit $2444
Compared to my OP when gold was $2270 a buyer at that price who sold today would still not be able to break even. But they would have the gold in hand.
BTW. I did not buy at $2270 and I do not regret not buying.
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Will anyone regret not buying gold at $2,270 ?
I regret not buying it when it was at $35
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I’m in at about $2,000 an OZ.
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You have home owners insurance, auto insurance, life etc. What's wrong with having a back up on the dollar? You better have some cash to. Yea everything is just GREAT in this wonderful economy. Some of this younger generation don't know how many states are in the union and can't tell time on hands of a clock. Buy yourself and your love ones some P.M. insurance.
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Jeez, I remember panning gold out of a stream in Colorado as a kid and cashing it in at $32.00 an ounce, thinking I had hit it rich.🥴
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The most Gold stored in one location is probably the NY Federal Reserve Bank.
‘The United States Federal Reserve Bank of New York, at 33 Liberty Street, is the world's largest gold repository. It holds one quarter of all the world's gold and, like the Bank of England's vault, it stores gold for both the United States and other nations.’
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Saw this post from the past and was reminded of a discussion I had the other day about the value of gold. Its value is truly in the fact that so little is worth quite a bit and that virtually anyone can recognize it as such. I was reminded of a dear old gal we knew that had survived the Russian advance into Germany before eventually becoming an American citizen. Her family had all of their possessions on a wagon and had broke down alongside a roadway that was being used by the German army evacuating or retreating from the Russian onslaught. Her entire family was on the wagon including her very old grandmother. Grandmother was standing along with the rest trying to figure out their next move. They were trying to get someone to stop and help them get out of Dodge. One of the larger trucks stopped and grandma held out her hand to show the driver something. It was a handful of gold coins she had sewn into her coat, for the price of a handful of gold coins he allowed them all to climb into the back of the truck for their ride to freedom, it was a truck loaded with bombs. A book was written about their adventure called "Riding the Bomb."
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Watch the daily YouTube shows from Vermillion Enterprises in Spring Hill Florida. They buy and sell probably $80K a day, some over the counter and some via wire and check.
He has said for the last month that there seem to be the same amount of buyers and sellers. The only difference is that the buyers are buying two ounces of gold and the sellers are selling 25-50+ ounces at a time.
Mainly because the cost of living has squeezed them so bad that a few thousand in cash is a reprieve to fix an $8K A/C unit when you don't have the cash.
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Watch the daily YouTube shows from Vermillion Enterprises in Spring Hill Florida. They buy and sell probably $80K a day, some over the counter and some via wire and check.
He has said for the last month that there seem to be the same amount of buyers and sellers. The only difference is that the buyers are buying two ounces of gold and the sellers are selling 25-50+ ounces at a time.
Mainly because the cost of living has squeezed them so bad that a few thousand in cash is a reprieve to fix an $8K A/C unit when you don't have the cash.
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Supposedly the rise in prices is also encouraging the sale of fake gold and silver. Stay vigilant!
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Tonight gold hit $2444
Compared to my OP when gold was $2270 a buyer at that price who sold today would still not be able to break even. But they would have the gold in hand.
BTW. I did not buy at $2270 and I do not regret not buying.
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Gold ETF's are up about 8% in the same period. Yes, in a total disaster paper gold will be worthless, but the total disaster is unlikely. Odds are you're better off with a slug of paper gold in your portfolio than you are with physical gold.
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