15-22 vs 10-22 accuracy

wolfe 21 · Nov 20, 2010

Own 2 10/22's and one 15-22. My 10/22 target is more accurate and the plain jane carbine is probably a better hunting/woods gun, but I just don't shoot them much since I got the 15-22. My main intent was to familiarize with the AR platform at a reduced price and still have most of the features the "real" gun has (no bolt cover, or forward assist). Guess it all comes down to what you want to do. M&P is good enough to train for Combat accurate AR carbine (3-4" @100 yards).

For those wanting match barrels, S&W custom shop builds a performance center 15-22 with a tighter chamber. May get you what you're looking for.

ChattanoogaPhil · Nov 20, 2010

Rustpot said:
A gun doesn't win Rifle of the Year when it's a roll of the dice whether or not a model coming off the line will self-destruct.

Actually..... I know of one rifle that did.... The 1522

During that past year... there were what seemed to be endless issues. Feed ramps were breaking off the barrel, extractors flying off, ejectors were tweaked out of position, continued mag issues, barrel nut coming off, on and on and on. Things have greatly improved as evidence of so few reports here now... But I have no idea what criteria is used for Rifle of the Year. I can't imagine it was for superior reliability and accuracy.

As far as the "plastic" being an issue... The polymer platform is great! I've never heard of any polymer failures. Some folks don't like plastic, I get it... (shrug)

john16443 · Nov 20, 2010

Agree with Phil, polymer is great. Get used to polymer in you black rifles, they're manufacturing polymer lowers for the 223 big boy rifles now too. Look how far it's come in the automotive industry. There hardly an engine bay around anymore that doesn't have a polymer cover in it.

chuckAz · Nov 20, 2010

Thanks for all of the replies. It seems like there's only 1 course of action, there's always room for 1 more gun.

Right now the threaded barrel A1 model seems in short supply locally so I'll just have to wait.

Meanwhile I'll have to shoot this some more.

Scuds03 · Nov 21, 2010

For practical shooting purposes both rifles are more accurate than the shooter is going to be. If you just wanna punch holes in paper from a benchrest then the 10/22 is going to make slightly tighter groups especially if you use some of the aftermarket stuff for it that you cant get for a 15-22 like match barrels and such.

ChattanoogaPhil · Nov 22, 2010

The new issue of American Rifleman compares The Tactical .22s.
Ruger SR22, Rem 597 VTR, Sig522, HK 416, GSG-522, Colt, 15-22 and Mossberg 702 tactical.

They tested accuracy with just a few different varieties of ammo, one of which was the new CCI Tactical that some of you guys have been talking about. Overall, the CCI Tactical shot best (the others were CCI Select and RWS HV). 10-shot groups at 50 yards from a sandbag --- Ruger and Remington were on top with best 10-shot groups at .62'' and .60'' respectively. Worst 10-shot group were 1.27'' and 1.03''. The 15-22 was near the bottom of the pack in regard to accuracy with the CCI Tactical. Best group was 1.08'' and worst 2.10''.

Overall, the 15-22 was 4th best in accuracy with all three ammo types. Top three were Remington, Ruger and Sig.

Interestingly, most all the rifles didn't perform as well with the RWS HV except the 15-22 and Sig. 15-22 averaged 1.49'' with the RWS. 1.75" with CCI tactical. 1.90'' with CCI Select.

There's a ton more info. Join the NRA and get a subscription.

gixerman01 · Nov 26, 2010

not a good comparison

The rugers are far superior in accuracy, and there are tons of cool stuff out there for them too. To be honest I thought the S&W was a cool gun untill I shot one. Whats the point if its not accurate. I shoot with a buddy that has one and now regrets his purchase every time we shoot together when he sees the groups I get with my Ruger. Build an Archangel if you want this style weapon and want it to be accurate.

chuckAz · Nov 26, 2010

Thanks for all the replies. Maybe I should have asked to compare the Ruger SR 22 with the 15-22 but it has 10-22 guts so no matter. It still seems like a good way to test the AR platform. The A/R article did say the 15-22 is closest to a true AR.

glockeyed · Nov 27, 2010

my 10/22 is an excellent tack driving rifle, but a horrendous trainer
my 15-22 is a horrendous precision rifle, but an excellent trainer

CBR240 · Nov 27, 2010

chuckAz said:
Thanks for all the replies. Maybe I should have asked to compare the Ruger SR 22 with the 15-22 but it has 10-22 guts so no matter. It still seems like a good way to test the AR platform. The A/R article did say the 15-22 is closest to a true AR.

We have both 15-22 and 10/22 (and 522, and ...). As mentioned, if a bench gun is what is desired, start with a 10/22 then add money. I view the SR-22 as about the same as our 10/22 in a ATI stock. The stock gives it whatever look you want, but it's a 10/22 that looks different. The manual of arms is still 10/22, and breakdown is 10/22 + whatever your chosen stock adds. SR-22 is good if you want a 10/22 match barrel, it's not so good if you want to become familar with the AR platform.

The 15-22 is plenty acurate for it's intended purpose. It would be cool to see some match barrels; but I think that's just a matter of time.

Some reasons to consider the 15-22:
- Full AR15/M16 manual of arms. That is the bolt release, charging handle, mag release, BHO on last round ... all function exactly as a center fire AR (charging handle does have shorter travel on 15-22, and no forward assist). So it makes a great training platform for those already with ARs or interest in that platform.
- Break down is AR perfect. Pull two pins upper/lower sperate, drop out the bolt/chargining handle. I don't know an easier gun to strip and clean. And except for bolt disassembly it is same as a center fire AR. Our 10/22 in a ATI stock, is not as easy to clean (or as fun).

ChattanoogaPhil · Nov 27, 2010

Whats the point if its not accurate. I shoot with a buddy that has one and now regrets his purchase every time we shoot together when he sees the groups I get with my Ruger.

I thought paper targets were for zeroing sights. What are these things called "groups"? Sounds boring.

15-22 is plenty accurate for the shooting I intended it for-- bouncing around soda cans and shotgun shells. The wife had an ear to ear grin on Thanksgiving day as she was fast firing at steel plate... ding ding ding... Next time you and your buddy go shooting consider getting off that rest, standing up and have some fun chasing around a can or shotgun shell... or talk to Belt_Fed about setting up a tactical course.

Here's one of the ranges at the Rifle Club. The 1522 loves the Plinking Range. It's the one range where anything goes... bring whatever you want to shoot at other than glass, and whatever you want to shoot... fully automatic too. (Yeah it's dirty... we clean it up every once in a while).

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