FFL question on ATF Form 3310.4 (multiple handgun sales)

If everything's legal, than I don't see the problem. Personally, I've only gotten 2 firearms at a time with my ffl dealer, but never more. I've done that twice. I have to say I don't really get what is being discussed here with the 5 days or so....:confused:
 
You didn't happen to get those in Rossville, GA.... did ya?


I carry multiple purchases out of the LGS on the same day, by the box full. When I get home, I pull the box out of my SUV and hold it up to the sky, in plain view of the satellite ATF parked over my house.
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Gang, those 5 business days are government business days not the LGS business days. Saturday and Sunday are not government business days. That's why most shops say wait 7 days. It's still a PITA. Yes one copy to ATF and one to your local county PD who ever they are.

The place I worked had a customer who was rebuilding his Smith collection a few years ago and got many of those forms sent in. He got a personal visit from ATF after a couple years. By that time he had 5 safes as I recall and spent some time in a enjoyable conversation with 2 agents.

No, not really.

The 5 day is the waiting day period under Brady which is Govt days.

Of course Govt reg can not be consistent.:eek:

For multiple guns it is business days of the guns shop. If they are open Saturday that counts as a day.

eCFR ? Code of Federal Regulations

§478.126a Reporting multiple sales or other disposition of pistols and revolvers.

Each licensee shall prepare a report of multiple sales or other disposition whenever the licensee sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, two or more pistols, or revolvers, or any combination of pistols and revolvers totaling two or more, to an unlicensed person: Provided, That a report need not be made where pistols or revolvers, or any combination thereof, are returned to the same person from whom they were received. The report shall be prepared on Form 3310.4, Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers. Not later than the close of business on the day that the multiple sale or other disposition occurs, the licensee shall forward two copies of Form 3310.4 to the ATF office specified thereon and one copy to the State police or to the local law enforcement agency in which the sale or other disposition took place. Where the State or local law enforcement officials have notified the licensee that a particular official has been designated to receive Forms 3310.4, the licensee shall forward such forms to that designated official. The licensee shall retain one copy of Form 3310.4 and attach it to the firearms transaction record, Form 4473, executed upon delivery of the pistols or revolvers.
Example. 1. A licensee sells a pistol and revolver in a single transaction to an unlicensed person. This is a multiple sale and must be reported not later than the close of business on the date of the transaction.
Example. 2. A licensee sells a pistol on Monday and sells a revolver on the following Friday to the same unlicensed person. This is a multiple sale and must be reported not later than the close of business on Friday. If the licensee sells the same unlicensed person another pistol or revolver on the following Monday, this would constitute an additional multiple sale and must also be reported.
Example 3. A licensee maintaining business hours on Monday through Saturday sells a revolver to an unlicensed person on Monday and sells another revolver to the same person on the following Saturday. This does not constitute a multiple sale and need not be reported since the sales did not occur during five consecutive business days.
(Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 1140-0003)
 
Ματθιας;138079593 said:
I'm happy you guys don't mind the extra scrutiny from our benevolent .gov and that's great! But there are others, myself included, who don't want anymore attention than what we already get when making a firearm purchase - especially those of us who live border states and are subject to even MORE scrutiny.

I was in a gun shop after work one day, buying a box of .22 shorts. A man was asking the new clerk about a customer who made a multiple purchase the previous week. The clerk explained he was a new employee and did not know any customers. I paid for the ammo and left. I assume the other man was with the ATF. I was the customer he had been inquiring about.
 
Sorry I was taught five government business days. I don't do it because having had to fill out the form and send to all them people I won't make anyone else have to.
 
I once bought 2 identical S&W revolvers at the same time. The FFL filled out the form and sent it in. I never heard anything further.

You guys seem to think that multiple sales are illegal. They're not - they just need to be reported.
 
No one thinks they are illegal. I'm sure that most folks here, like me, don't want the damn nosy government knowing anything more about me than I can help.

If that takes waiting an extra week to pick up a gun, then I'll wait.
 
You guys seem to think that multiple sales are illegal. They're not - they just need to be reported.

Raise your hand if you want to be on the ATF's watch list for multiple purchases. (my hand is down) That's the point.

Here's my story and why I steer clear of multiple purchases:

I have a collector friend who bought two Nagant pistols. He did multiple transfers as he bought online and wanted to save on transfer fees. He got a visit from the ATF at his WORK because the ATF tried to say that they were the 7.62x39 AK pistols NOT the 7.62x38 Nagant. It was a mess and took a while to sort out.

This happened in a border state, and my friend works for another alphabet fed agency.

While others may be willing to take the risk, I'm not!

If the ATF is willing to do this to a fellow LE, they'd have no problem doing that to someone like me.

Then see what happened to the LGS in ABQ after they/he filed suit against the ATF about this the new multiple purchase requirements for border states.
 
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I was in a gun shop after work one day, buying a box of .22 shorts. A man was asking the new clerk about a customer who made a multiple purchase the previous week. The clerk explained he was a new employee and did not know any customers. I paid for the ammo and left. I assume the other man was with the ATF. I was the customer he had been inquiring about.

That is impressive. I've never known ATFE to be that much on the ball around these parts.
 
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