LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S RIFLE

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Along with a lot of other historical trivia I happen to have a copy
of the February 1963 American Rifleman magazine.

On March 12, 1963 Lee Harvey Oswald, using an assumed name,
rented a post office box, and ordered the rifle by mail from a full
page ad on page 65 in the magazine noted above.

The subject rifle was ordered from Klein's Sporting Goods in
Chicago. It is the third rifle from the top of the ad in the left
side column. It is an Italian military 6.5 x 52MM military rifle.
It is called a Carcano Carbine. He paid $19.95 for the rifle
with a 4 power scope. The ad says one could also get a six
round clip and 108 rounds of ammo for an additional $7.50.

The assassination occured on November 22, 1963. It was a
sad day. John Kennedy was a much loved president.

Two days later, November 24, 1963 we was watching live
television when Lee Harvey Oswald was being moved from the
basement of the Dallas, Texas police station to a more secure
location. Jack Ruby, owner of a local strip joint, stepped
foreward and fired a single shot, from his Colt Cobra .38 Spl.
revolver, fatally wounding Oswald.

Some thought of Ruby as a hero. Some thought he killed
Oswald to cover up a conspiracy. Some say there must have
been more than one shooter.

I had previously bought that same rifle, without the scope,
for my wife a deer rifle. I know it is fast and accurate enough
to do what Oswald did. There didn't have to be more than
one shooter.

P.S. from that same ad you could buy a Model 1917 Colt .45
ACP revolver with 5.5" barrel for $29.95. A box of 20 .45 ACP
cartridges an additional $2.50.
 
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As far as Military rifles are rated, the Carcano is just about the
bottom of the heap. I can remember when I was a kid I bought
one off a school buddy. Military ammo was still avaible (1962)
but what I remember, a box of Norma hunting ammo cost more
than rifle was worth. Springfields, Enfields, Mausers of all stripes
were far superior rifles.
 
I grew up in Dallas and as a teenager in 1966, just three years after the event. Back then you could go up to the Sixth floor and stand in the same spot Oswald did. Dealey Plaza slopes downward towards Stemmons Freeway. It as an easy shot, especially with a telescopic sight. JFK's head must have looked like a watermelon with 10X magnification. Also, sound richochets off the cement walls surrounding the scene. Depending on where you stand, it could sound like the shots came from several different spots. that's the acoustics of the scene.
 
25 years ago I was driving from one city to another in a rural area. I saw a yard sale and stopped. Not much there, as always I asked if she had any knives or guns.

She lit up and said yes, she ran into the mobile home and came back out with a Carcano carbine in a brown box, wrapped in brown paper and covered in what appeared to be cosmoline. I asked how much, she said $20.00 with the uncanny knack of many wife's that can tell to the dime how much money a guy has.

I said, won't your husband get upset? She said several bad words about him, he took his paycheck and went on a drunk. She was getting grocery money for the kids, yada, or her own 6 pack maybe.

Amazingly all I had was one $20.00 bill. She took it and I left with the prize. I never took it out, cleaned the grease off or shot it. Then I mentioned I had a Carcano Carbine like the one that killed Kennedy to a guy who had to have it. Traded it for perhaps a Win M-12 in 16 gauge.

Don't miss the Carcano, sure would like to have the M-12 back.
 
A fellow LEO Firearms Instructor brought an identical Carcano Carbine to a rifle class I was attending. After the class was over we set up the targets at the documented distance and got out an electronic shot timer. There was four of us to give it a try. All of us made the shots under LHO's time. Like said, "It was an easy shoot". IMHO, LHO did the shooting by himself. Now, did he have indoctrination and coaching by the Russians? I have no idea.
 
Maybe it was the one I shot, but the action and trigger were horrible, I just don't see how anyone could have gotten of that many shots after the first one. I am by no means an "expert' marksman, but with some other bolt actions rifles I have fired, I could see that being possible, but not with the Carcano I fired. Several of my buddies and myself tried to do it one day at the range, and none of us had any luck.
 
I'd definitely prefer a $29.95 1917 over a $19.95 Carcano.

You can still stand a couple of windows down from the actual window (which is behind glass walls). Even a couple of windows down, it's very moving to stand there and survey that scene, and everything you've ever known about the event flashes before your eyes.
 
All i got to go on is the Zapruder film.
Never been to Dallas.
Never owned a Carcano.

Everything i've learned from shooting rifles for my 40 years
of shooting contradicts the fatal shot and the snap of Kennedy's
head backwards.
It's still my opinion there was more than one person pulling a
trigger that day.


Chuck
 
The Zapruder film shows Jackie Kennedy scrambling across the rear deck lid of the limo, trying to get the piece of skull back that blew out of JFK's head. Someone please tell me how that was accomplished by a shot from the REAR?

Additionally, there is a very lengthy Youtube video (I believe) where a man admits he shot Kennedy. He claims he did it with a 221 Fireball from an XP-100, if memory serves. I find that explanation MUCH more plausible. I will go to my grave believing LHO was a patsy, and was set up, then killed when it was determined he might talk.
 
I was a big believer in the conspiracy theories and read many books and saw video presentations that led me to believe in multiple shooters. I didn't think the "magic bullet" could have done what they said it did, or that those shots could have been successful.
I went to the Texas Book Depository museum and Dealy Plaza a couple of years ago and the perspective I gained from that changed my mind. I saw how close the sniper's nest was to the street and saw the position where the car was. I saw that the range was far closer than any video made it appear, and that the shots would be possible for someone with reasonable practice and skills.
It was a tragic day that changed everything in our country. I think that people needed to believe that it would take more than one pitiful loser to bring down a great man in such a way. Who knows what could have been?
 
I used to read a lot of the conspiracy books too, and get all wrapped up in the excitement.

As I've grown up (sometime after I hit 50 or so ;)), I've become partial to Occam's Razor: The easiest explanation is usually the correct one.

Oswald, who learned to shoot in the Marine Corps, made three shots with a scoped rifle at a target moving away from him in a straight line and scored twice. Nothing miraculous.

And about that head snapping backwards and the piece of skull on the trunk: If you look at the Zapruder film, JFK was turned to the left and his head snapped to the left when the right side of his head blew up. Take an old soccer ball to your range and shoot it so you hit it to the right of the center; in most cases it'll bounce off to the left. Simple physics.

A shooter from the grassy knoll would have blown out the left rear of JFK's skull. A bullet that came from the front and traversed his skull the way the third bullet did would have had to come from the triple overpass straight ahead and therefore would have been travelling at an opposite downward angle than the actual bullet did from behind. Since no other second shooter position is feasible, the frontal shot fails the reality test, like most other "inconsistencies" which dissolve upon a closer look.
 
I have the NRA magazine the month before or after the one Oswald bought his gun from, but the ad is probably completely identical. His rifle is. If you add shipping, the price is the one always stated that he paid. He took a practice assassination shot at a Texas politician prior but missed.

 
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When I began studying political science at the University of Utah in 1974, the school used a four quarters a year schedule. I took a class that dealt exclusively with the twists and turns of the JFK murder. The professor was the local head of the ACLU, guy named Foxx, a real liberal but was intellectually honest and taught both sides of the coin and let you make up your own mind. My idea of what a professor of social sciences should be.

Text book was, "OH MY GOD THEY'VE KILLED THE PRESIDENT!"

It's not much of a chore to get to believe that LHO actually killed Kennedy with the Carcano carbine. Where you get really blown away is in the fates of all sorts of other people who were or possibly were included in the huge web of folks who may have been in support rolls of an extended plot to kill the President and then the Congressional and Warren Committee. Those folks were committing suicides, being killed in traffic accidents and just plain murdered under unexplained circumstances that would make an insurance actuarial get up and leave town to avoid the fates of most people who were to be questioned.

I red a new book on the plot and conspiracy ever year or two when a good one comes out. Right now, it's "HIT LIST" by Richard Belzer (yes, that Richard Belzer) and David Wayne. It's one that has me convinced that there were fair numbers of folks involved in Kennedy's murder in large and small ways and that we are never likely to know who did what because so many of those people died so soon after Kennedy.
 
"I have the NRA magazine the month before or after the one Oswald bought his gun from, but the ad is probably completely identical."

That same Klein's ad ran for several months in both the American Rifleman and Guns & Ammo. I have a January 1963 AR and a May 1963 G&A, both ads are identical. I don't know from which magazine ad Oswald ordered his rifle, not sure anyone does. I doubt he was an NRA member. I think Oswald's rifle shipped in April 1963. I have never fired the 6.5 Carcano, but I have fired the same rifle in 7.35mm. Before WWII, apparently Mussolini decided that a larger caliber than the 6.5mm was needed, so some 6.5mm rifles were converted to 7.35mm (essentially the 6.5mm case necked up). Perhaps a few rifles were made new in 7.35mm. Anyway, someone in the Italian army figured out that having two different calibers in the same rifle could easily lead to serious logistics problems, and the 7.35mm version was quickly dropped. It was somewhat strange, as the 7.35mm bullet was 0.300", not the more common 0.308"-0.311".

There are many "ballistics mysteries" surrounding both Oswald's 6.5 rifle and his .38 sawed-off Victory revolver that have never been adequately resolved. I won't go into them, but they are easily searchable for anyone interested.

"It's one that has me convinced that there were fair numbers of folks involved in Kennedy's murder in large and small ways and that we are never likely to know who did what because so many of those people died so soon after Kennedy."

I remember that some years ago, someone applied a voice stress analysis test to all of the recorded statements made by the police, FBI, etc. at the time of the assassination. The conclusion was that EVERYONE was lying.
 
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Watch the PBS Nova documentary: "Cold Case JFK".
The forensic evidence implicating Oswald is compelling.
You will particularly enjoy the shooting demonstrations with the Carcano rifle using 6.5 military ammunition.

John
 
In the excellent book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner it says Oswald often hung out at Crescent City Garage run by an Adrian Alba who was a gun enthusiast. Oswald would read Field & Stream, American Rifleman, etc. there and sometimes borrow them. On March 10, 1963 he clipped a coupon from the Feb. issue of A.R. and sent $21.45 to Kleins Sporting Goods in Chicago.
Did Oswald try to asassinate Major General Edwin Walker with his new rifle but missed and later went for a bigger target? I believe so and that Oswald acted completely alone. The bullet shot at Walker hit his windowpane from the outside at night while he was in his kitchen. He lost the Dem. primary to John Connolly. Looks like Oswald would have ironically shot Walker anyway later had he beat Connolly and won the Gov. race. Then he would have took that ride with JFK. Story on Oswald shooting at him:

Did Lee Harvey Oswald Shoot at General Edwin Walker? : The JFK Assassination
 
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