SIG 9 mm P365 Micro with manual safety ?

I picked up a P365 with manual safety TacPac (includes 3 12 round magazines and a kydex holster that can be carried either IWB or OWB) about 3 weeks ago. I purchased a Q-Series Stealth holster (from Amazon) and have just started carrying it AIWB. The manual safety gives me that extra degree of comfort when the muzzle is pointed at some very important body parts, i.e., femoral artery. I did swap out one of the 12 round magazines for a 10 round magazine with the dealer. I find the 10 rounder conceals better with only a limited reduction of the grip. The manual safety works in the same manner as a 1911, HK, or CZ safety; there is a very noticeable, tactile feel when it is locked on safe or pushed off safe.
 
It's personal preference, but I prefer no manual safety. My carry revolvers, Glocks, and Sig P365 all work the same way.
 
A couple of years ago I had an AD in my home with a safety-less Ruger American. No big problems, other than a hole in my tv and my ears rang for days. Afterwards, no strikers without safeties. Also grew up with 1911's, so the swipe up/down is natural for me.
 
The P365 (no manual safety) is my EDC of choice. I never liked CCW guns with safeties because in the heat of the moment all I want is a firearm that needs a pull of the trigger to use. Since I have never had to use it in a moment of desperation, one never knows that he/she will remember to disengage a manual safety - despite the training. That scenario has sadly happened before.

Most of my life I carried a 2" Chief's Special Revolver (no manual safety) and so that is what I am super familiar with. Some say that carrying a chamber loaded striker fired gun without a manual safety is dangerous, however it will never go off without puling the trigger! It is imperative to use a holster that always covers the trigger. If the trigger is covered and when pulled out if its holster it does not have your finger on it - it simply can't go off accidentally. Yes, striker fired pistols do have a lighter trigger than most Revolvers however that is why one needs to be totally familiar with what they are carrying. Guns don't shoot by themselves!

Added Note: The Sig P365 pistols that do have the manual safety are also subject to being accidentally switched off without knowledge - again, practice and familiarity is key with any firearm! I believe carrying a pistol with a manual safety unknowingly disengaged is probably more dangerous than a pistol with no manual safety.
 
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I pocket carry a P365 with safety and one time found the safety disengaged when putting it away. Fortunately I always carry it in a "sticky" kydex sheath that covers the trigger, so no harm done. I would not carry any pistol without the trigger covered.
 
Ranger41 said:
I pocket carry a P365 with safety and one time found the safety disengaged when putting it away. Fortunately I always carry it in a "sticky" kydex sheath that covers the trigger, so no harm done. I would not carry any pistol without the trigger covered.
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Exactly what I was saying above. A safety is sometimes a false sense of security and a liability if you can't or forget to flick it off in the heat of the moment. The Sig P365 does have two internal safety features and the gun will NOT fire by itself - ONLY when the trigger is pulled. If a proper holster is used and you don't put your finger on the trigger when deploying it - it can't go off by accident. It's all up to us! The sticky DeSantis Nemesis Pocket Holster is terrific for pocket carry IMHO! Fits all the needs and is cheap!
 
In contrast to all the happy P365 owners above, I had one with no safety and sold it. I know all about the internal safeties built into it, and I certainly admired the engineering behind it to get that much gun into that small of a package. Still, I just didn't feel comfortable with that light and crisp trigger. Just a personal thing, I guess.

I am accustomed to and quite happy with safeties on pistols and may revisit the design if I can find one with a safety. In the meantime, the P938 fills my needs.
 
I do not like a manual safety on the Sig P365. I have the standard model with no manual safety. The safety on these micro 9's is so small and thin it can be difficult to flick off in a hurry under pressure. It can also be deactivated by accident rendering the pistol back to a no safety situation.

Rather than a false sense of security and relying on a manual safety devise, I would strongly suggest that anyone who carries a striker fired, micro nine in any brand, learn how to safely shoot, carry and operate the pistol without a safety! The Sig P365 can not go off unless the trigger is pulled! There are several internal drop safety's and they do work well. Holstering this little pistol with a round on the Chamber takes practice and requires that attention to what you are doing be payed - simply no substitute! Hey, even a Glock or S&W with the trigger lever safety is not fool proof and can still go off unintentionally if improper holstering is done. There is no substutute for practice and awareness of what you are doing!

All I want to have to remember to do if I ever need to defend myself is to aim and pull the trigger. I do not want to have to remember and fumble with a manual safety at a moment of severe stress! YMMV.

Oh - and BTW...... EVEN if you buy any brand of pistol with a manual safety and choose not to use it in the safe position, that doesn't mean it can't be unintentionally flicked on!! That could be more dangerous to you as you wonder in a time of severe stress as to why your pistol isn't working!! Keep it simple and practice safety!
 
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I don’t like a manual safety on a self defense weapon b/c at the moment of truth many forget to disengage it, I’ve witnessed this on the range many times. Unless you plan to train a great deal w/your gun’s safety I’d make sure to get a good holster covering the trigger guard & call it good.
 
I have a P365 and I added the manual safety, but I didn't want it ambidextrous so I cut off the right-side lever. Works great!

Now I've swapped out the standard Micro slide assembly for an XL, sort of a "long slide" variation, and I love the way it shoots.

Great gun!
 

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RMFnLA said:
I have a P365 and I added the manual safety, but I didn't want it ambidextrous so I cut off the right-side lever. Works great!

Now I've swapped out the standard Micro slide assembly for an XL, sort of a "long slide" variation, and I love the way it shoots.

Great gun!
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where did you get the slide and barrel? approximate cost to do the conversion? uses same recoil spring?

thanks
 
I personally see no need for a safety on anything that isn't a single action carried cocked and locked. But some folks like the safety for the added illusion it creates I suppose. It's the in-between for those who carry with and empty chamber����‍♂️
 
uncleted327 said:
I personally see no need for a safety on anything that isn't a single action carried cocked and locked. But some folks like the safety for the added illusion it creates I suppose. It's the in-between for those who carry with and empty chamber����‍♂️
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What a farce! Some people have been carrying for decades and a safety is no illusion. All of my guns have one, except a revolver, unless they’re DAO weapons. People make mistakes. They’re not as supremely skilled as you must be, obviously. Mistake during routine gun handling is far more likely than some highly unlikely self defense encounter. Practice 5 minutes a day and it’s totally natural.

I will say that safeties should be more positive. Some are kind of mushy. The safety in the Ruger LC and SR series of guns was perfect. Very positive click and not to big or small. The Shield safety is nearly perfect. Nobody is accidentally engaging or disengaging that one. Just wish it was a hair wider. The big paddle safeties on the larger M&P’s are too wide. And I hate double sided safeties. With all the aftermarket options out there they should have a single sided safety for either right or left shooters.
 
oldiegoldie said:
where did you get the slide and barrel? approximate cost to do the conversion? uses same recoil spring?

thanks
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No, the XL uses a different recoil spring.

I found a full unused upper assembly on FleaBay for $350; included slide w/ optics cover, barrel, and recoil spring/guide. That was the total cost.

Zero gunsmithing required; just slide off the old assembly and slide on the new one.

The guy has another one for sale; do a search if you're interested (moderators don't like when I post a link to stuff for sale; I've been called out twice for that :cool:).
 
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RMFnLA said:
No, the XL uses a different recoil spring.

I found a full unused upper assembly on FleaBay for $350; included slide w/ optics cover, barrel, and recoil spring/guide. That was the total cost.

Zero gunsmithing required; just slide off the old assembly and slide on the new one.

The guy has another one for sale; do a search if you're interested (moderators don't like when I post a link to stuff for sale; I've been called out twice for that :cool:).
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thanks for the feedback. i do appreciate
 
I have more CCW pistols than I need. Some have safeties and some don't. The XDs 45 I've been using lately does not. I would prefer that it did. My preference, for a number of reasons, is to have a safety, to use or not as I choose. I've been carrying concealed, mostly AIWB, for nearly 40 years. Of course I haven't always carried a semi-auto but mostly so since I bought my early 669 when they first came out. With the 669 I always used the safety to holster then disengaged it.

Safety, yes!
 
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