Swiss Phoenix pistols...
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Is Phoenix watching this thread...? They named their latest model "Predator", creating a veritable AVP situation. 
---> The new serrations are awesome (best of any gun I've come across), and I understand all models (Predator, Redback Gen 2, Drake, Raptor) are getting them. The new aluminum on polymer grips are nice too.
---> The new serrations are awesome (best of any gun I've come across), and I understand all models (Predator, Redback Gen 2, Drake, Raptor) are getting them. The new aluminum on polymer grips are nice too.
TheHobbyist
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@ the OP, that is high praise coming from you as a serious collector/shooter. I trust your opinion.
I think it's cool, but where I am from in the US there are no local gun shops that stock these. I'd basically have to buy it online and "wing it" based on testimony.
I was wondering about these and appreciate the post.
I think it's cool, but where I am from in the US there are no local gun shops that stock these. I'd basically have to buy it online and "wing it" based on testimony.
I was wondering about these and appreciate the post.
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If you are okay with buying a gun that was built by some minimum wager pushing a button on a machine that is spitting out parts, with some guy of equal skill down the line shoving all of these parts together and calling it a complete gun, or "close enough", then you can spend plus or minus a grand today to get the kind of gun that you love.
If you desire a gun that has had some personal attention and fitting by someone who actually knows what they are doing and has a skill set to back it up, you are going to pay north of two grand these days. Often far north.
Individual attention and fitting by a skilled hand costs money. But, the finished product is in a totally different league than the cheaper guns. That matters enough to some of us to pay the difference. If it does not matter to you, then bless your heart. Someone has to buy the plastic and pot metal.
If you desire a gun that has had some personal attention and fitting by someone who actually knows what they are doing and has a skill set to back it up, you are going to pay north of two grand these days. Often far north.
Individual attention and fitting by a skilled hand costs money. But, the finished product is in a totally different league than the cheaper guns. That matters enough to some of us to pay the difference. If it does not matter to you, then bless your heart. Someone has to buy the plastic and pot metal.
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THE PILGRIM
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So is anybody in the USA importing them?
THE PILGRIM
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Minot? Really!
In the USAF we sometimes said - Why Not Minot?
In the USAF we sometimes said - Why Not Minot?
AJ
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A friend of mine transferred from Cam Ranh Bay, RVN in December of 68 and went to Minot AFB, said he just about froze to death!
Please excuse the dumb question and I tried to sort it out from all the posts, but couldn’t. What caliber are these pistols? Do they just come in 9mm? Or can you get .45, 10mm, etc? ( I would bet .45 and 10mm offerings would help sales tremendously in the US).
They have a fascinating inventory. Got my Manurhin MR88 from them. I'm constantly watching stuff they have.
The Attic is
Most are in 9x19mm, .40S&W is available on some Drake models, and the Raptor can be ordered in 9x21mm.
A super high quality high capacity 10mm would be great, but I suspect the dimensional challenges associated with the 10mm and the .45ACP cartridges (gun, grip, mags) would be significant. This is a small company with limited resources, and they are not at the "okay, we've sold everybody a 9mm, what else could we do?" point. Pretty sure they'd be happy if they could produce all the current models in sufficient numbers. Also, the 9mm cartridge in the CZ75 design with the high quality Mec-Gar mags is such a good, reliable, well-tested combination. It's a really good choice if you're shooting for perfection.
That's enough to back me off -
Won one of their auctions on Gunbroker and received a revolver in need of repair. Multiple emails and phone calls and they never took care of the problem. Ended up dropping almost a hundred bucks with my gunsmith to get it fixed.
Live and learn - my experience with that company.
diecidecimi
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I just received a Fusion Compact, chambered 9x21 IMI , but during these Holidays my range is closed: so, not tested yet.
Anyway, some pics are always welcome.
After my first range session I will post a report
LVSteve
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[Sundance voice\\]
"You sure you got enough trigger guard undercut there, Butch?"
"You sure you got enough trigger guard undercut there, Butch?"
hemiram
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I would love to see a comparison between the Raptor compact and a Sphinx SDP compact. I don't see what could really be improved over the Sphinx, at least in machining. I own a CZ P07 Custom, the SDP, and a SAR CM9 Gen2, and for the money, the SAR is a pretty great gun. I scored on the SDP, barely used, with one tiny nick on the trigger guard, and about $250 cheaper than new. Three mags came with it, and I found a couple for $25 each online. The CZ has a fiber optic and night sight combo I was surprised to see when I got it, and has a really great trigger, totally different than the Sphinx. Better SA on the CZ, better DA by far on the Sphinx.
Are you sure there is a Phoenix Raptor Compact? The Phoenix gun to compare the SDP to would be the Fusion Compact/Tactical, but it might be out of production, haven't seen one in a while.
It's come to this ... nowhere to be seen in Switzerland, but found its way to far off lands. [/envy off]
He means the Fusion. The Raptor is a $7000 Open gun
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