That's a Smith & Wesson. And you've had your six.

hedbonker · Jul 30, 2025

I assume this is just stupidity on the part of the filmmakers...

In Dr. No, Professor Dent attempts to kill Bond but Bond gets the drop on him. After a brief conversation Dent tries to shoot Bond again and Bond says "That's a Smith & Wesson. And you've had your six." and then dispatches Dent. But if you look at the gun that Dent is using it looks more like a suppressed 1911. At first I thought it might be a model 52 but those only hold 5 rounds. I am no S&W expert by any stretch. Was there an automatic S&W that held 6 rounds available at this time? (1962)

Dent's handgun.

GaryS · Jul 30, 2025

The dialog was probably written for a revolver, but since most film producers and directors don't know anything about guns, they just went with it.

robertrwalsh · Jul 30, 2025

I am reasonably sure you called that one right. That also looks like a 1911 to me and, as far as I recall, no S&W fits the bill, at least from that time frame.

robertrwalsh · Jul 30, 2025

robertrwalsh said:
I am reasonably sure you called that one right. That also looks like a 1911 to me and, as far as I recall, no S&W fits the bill, at least from that time frame.

As noted above, a lot of the people who MADE the movies don't know squat about firearms and yes, it is likely the dialog was written for a revolver and nobody told anybody it was technically in error. Kind of like hanging a suppressor on the end of a revolver.

GaryS · Jul 30, 2025

That could have been why they changed to a semi auto. It looks cool on a semi auto, but stupid on a revolver.

BTW, Dr. No was made in 1962, so that's pretty much impossible to be any S&W semi. Probably some European gun because back then for the most part the bad guys used semi autos and the good guys used revolvers. There were exceptions, but that seems to have been the general rule.

When Ian Fleming and then his estate sold the film rights the stipulation was that they could use the title and character names, but the movies had to be significantly different than the novels. Fleming was an actual intelligence officer in the Royal Navy in WW2. In addition to the Bond novels, he wrote "Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang.

The novels were better than the movies.

robertrwalsh said:
As noted above, a lot of the people who MADE the movies don't know squat about firearms and yes, it is likely the dialog was written for a revolver and nobody told anybody it was technically in error. Kind of like hanging a suppressor on the end of a revolver.

Rammer Jammer · Jul 30, 2025

Ian has more detail than you probably want to know.

hkcavalier · Jul 30, 2025

Hollywood didn't seem to pay much attention to firearm authenticity until at least the early 80s, and even then it was pretty spotty. But this seems to be what was suggested above, a script vs. prop issue.

I always thought Pulp Fiction goofed with Jules' (Samuel L. Jackson) pearl-gripped handgun, what he calls "Mister nine millimeter" as it looks like a 1911, but it turns out it's actually a Star Model B...a 9mm that closely resembles a 1911. Vincent (John Travolta) does have a .45 1911 in the movie, a chromed Auto-Ordnance. There are a lot of S&Ws in that movie, actually. Ringo (Tim Roth) holds up the diner with a Model 30, while his Honey Bunny has a Model 40 Centennial. Marsellus Wallace (Ving Rhames) has a 4506 on him when Butch (Bruce Willis) runs him over in the intersection.

Jerry in SC · Jul 30, 2025

The dust jacket of the first edition, "From Russia, with Love" featured a S&W revolver with a cut away trigger guard (looks like a Chiefs Special) and a rose. Geoffrey Boothroyd was Fleming's firearms advisor. He originally wanted Bond to carry a revolver but Fleming preferred a semi auto, Boothroyd compromised by suggesting the PPK in 7.65.

Ameshawki · Jul 30, 2025

Fleming wasn't a gun guy. Most of the Bond movies were filmed in the UK, and have never been terribly good at firearms. There's nonsense in most of them, the early ones especially. The poster with the pellet gun is my favorite.

CH4 · Jul 30, 2025

S&W makes 1911s, but with internal extractors and not in 1962.

I believe it's in Live and Let Die where the gal forgets the "safety catch" on her 2.5" 19.

Yendor357 · Jul 30, 2025

There were probably others, but to me, Michael Mann always did a super job with guns in his productions.

GaryS · Jul 30, 2025

Of course John Wayne had his pre pre pre production Ante Bellum Winchester in "The Comancheros."

bigggbbruce · Jul 30, 2025

CH4 said:
S&W makes 1911s, but with internal extractors and not in 1962.

I believe it's in Live and Let Die where the gal forgets the "safety catch" on her 2.5" 19.

I've seen 1911s go "click" empty, slide forward in battery. Then a second trigger pull "click"

Road Rat · Jul 30, 2025

hedbonker said:
I assume this is just stupidity on the part of the filmmakers...

In Dr. No, Professor Dent attempts to kill Bond but Bond gets the drop on him. After a brief conversation Dent tries to shoot Bond again and Bond says "That's a Smith & Wesson. And you've had your six." and then dispatches Dent. But if you look at the gun that Dent is using it looks more like a suppressed 1911. At first I thought it might be a model 52 but those only hold 5 rounds. I am no S&W expert by any stretch. Was there an automatic S&W that held 6 rounds available at this time? (1962)

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Dent's handgun.

This from a 60 year old film??

ACEd · Jul 30, 2025

As I recall, Bond's Walther PPK 7.65 Browning was actually a PP as used on the set not a PPK and never mind the round count as Bond never had to reload his 7rd PPK (or 8rd PP).

shil · Jul 31, 2025

Kinda like, in "Red Heat", the Schwarzenegger character initially used a "Podbyrin 9.2mm" which looked remarkably like a Desert Eagle and then a borrowed Model 29 which, in a final showdown with the villain, became a "seven-shooter". I drove the kids crazy! I was watching one of the "Pirates of the Carribean" movies with my daughter and there was a scene which included two British soldiers who were carrying the correct "Brown Bess" muskets. She asked me, tongue-in-cheek, "Dad, are they authentic?".

kelljor · Jul 31, 2025

Yendor357 said:
There were probably others, but to me, Michael Mann always did a super job with guns in his productions.

Yeah, only problem was when Sonny carried the Bren during the time they couldn't get mags. He subsequently switched to a Smith 45 auto. Not sure which one.

kelljor · Jul 31, 2025

ACEd said:
As I recall, Bond's Walther PPK 7.65 Browning was actually a PP as used on the set not a PPK and never mind the round count as Bond never had to reload his 7rd PPK (or 8rd PP).

Yeah and when he switched to the PPK he was told that gun could "stop a charging rhino". Maybe that was a pygmy rhino. Or maybe a RINO.

Markpixs · Jul 31, 2025

CH4 said:
S&W makes 1911s, but with internal extractors and not in 1962.

I believe it's in Live and Let Die where the gal forgets the "safety catch" on her 2.5" 19.

I've fired a few where the heavy DA trigger felt like a 'safety catch' was on

ColoCoug · Jul 31, 2025

Worrying about firearms authenticity in old movies is a lost cause. I don't recall reading about an emphasis on historical accuracy much before the 1980s or 90s. Of course, that date range is highly debatable.

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