Did anyone else see the Transitional 357 Magnum on GB this weekend?

JSW · #1 01-13-2014, 09:44 AM

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This early post war 357 ran on Gunbroker last Saturday, but not for very long. I thought about bidding on it myself but with the non-factory refinish I decided to pass. Originally it started as a regular auction but then got changed to buy it now. I was hoping to see the auction go the full week. These guns rarely come up for sale and I wanted to see how high it would go.

Smith and Wesson S&W Pre 27 357 Nickel Stag Grips : Revolvers at GunBroker.com

H Richard · #2 01-13-2014, 11:23 AM

I was really surprised at what it brought, especially in the finish condition it had. It amazes me how much the Pre-27's continue to appreciate.

410bore · #3 01-13-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by H Richard

I was really surprised at what it brought, especially in the finish condition it had. It amazes me how much the Pre-27's continue to appreciate.

H Richard,

that is a Transition MAGNUM, not a Pre-27...even though it was refinished that was a super steal....there aren't many of those...

arjay · #4 01-13-2014, 11:38 AM

I had no idea these existed...

jjbrewst1 · #5 01-13-2014, 11:43 AM

It was a great weekend indeed. I found it on GB. Couldn't believe my eyes. It's bought, paid for, and on its way truly a beautiful piece of history.

410bore · #6 01-13-2014, 11:47 AM

If there was ever a gun that was deserved of a quality restoration, that gun is sure it Jim. I'd spend the money to get it put back to original if it were mine.

1blindref · #7 01-13-2014, 11:52 AM

I'm with Kris. That's one I'd have restored considering it's already been refinished. But like somebody posted in one of my threads, it's easy to spend someone elses money!

410bore · #8 01-13-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blindref

I'm with Kris. That's one I'd have restored considering it's already been refinished. But like somebody posted in one of my threads, it's easy to spend someone elses money!

So easy Rick, all I have to do is type

weatherby · #9 01-13-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blindref

I'm with Kris. That's one I'd have restored considering it's already been refinished. But like somebody posted in one of my threads, it's easy to spend someone elses money!

Well if he gets something next month I could help with the funds

JSW · #10 01-13-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jjbrewst1

It was a great weekend indeed. I found it on GB. Couldn't believe my eyes. It's bought, paid for, and on its way truly a beautiful piece of history.

Congratulations on a rare find!

jjbrewst1 · #11 01-13-2014, 12:15 PM

I have to give credit as this find was a joint effort with fellow SWCA member Nate Mayor. Who I Value as my 3rd edition catalog. He has one of the finest 357 Magnum collections I have seen.

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bmg60 · #12 01-13-2014, 12:20 PM

Hi
Nice score there are only 15 with this one documented most were 5 inch and 3 1/2 and most went to police departments. there were two orders that went to Kansas for the KHP. the total made was 140
here is a picture of the one I own.

Jim

Maximumbob54 · #13 01-13-2014, 12:24 PM

I've not seen the grip cap done like that before and I like it.

Modified · #14 01-13-2014, 01:23 PM

I'm pretty much always against refinishing a gun, no matter what happened to it. This one however? Seems like this is a gun that is screaming for a restoration.

05CarbonDRZ · #15 01-13-2014, 03:12 PM

Way to go Jim,You deserve it more than anyone I can think of.

RKmesa · #16 01-13-2014, 09:32 PM

Jim:

Congrats!!!

bigmoose · #17 01-13-2014, 10:53 PM

What features define a "Transition Magnum"? Thanks.

05CarbonDRZ · #18 01-13-2014, 11:10 PM

The main Two are the long pre war action and the micrometer click rear sight.

beagleye · #19 01-14-2014, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmoose

What features define a "Transition Magnum"? Thanks.

Also the single line address helps.

JSW · #20 01-14-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmoose

What features define a "Transition Magnum"? Thanks.

The transitional 357 was basically a pre-war gun but with the following updates – post war grips, sights and hammer safety. They all have serial numbers beginning with “S”

handejector · #21 01-16-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beagleye

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Originally Posted by bigmoose

What features define a "Transition Magnum"? Thanks.

Also the single line address helps.

Not really.
While all Transition guns have the single line "Made in USA", many, many guns that are NOT Transition guns also have it.

The Transition label is becoming WAY overused.
It should only refer to a Post-War gun that is mechanically the same as a Pre-War version, but usually has the safety hammer block.
One line addresses, big ejector knobs, and pre-war style grips do not make a Transition gun.
Like I've always said, keep including too many items, and EVERY gun becomes a "Transition" gun.
Example-
My 27-2 has the following features:
Square Butt
Grooved Tangs
Rifled Barrel
Trigger Guard
Checkered Topstrap
Ribbed Barrel
ALL these features are found on Pre-War Magnums.
So, is my 27-2 a "Transition Model"?????

jjbrewst1 · #22 01-16-2014, 12:41 PM

A little update to the transitional 357 Magnum. See my story below. It is sitting at the Post office waiting for my pickup, but it got really Scary for a bit. See below. I will post some pics of her tonight.

I recently bought this post war transitional 357 Magnum off GB and a member posted a link to it off GB. A closed auction Link. I bought it on a Saturday and the post was up Monday Morning. So I overnighted a money order and prayed to God nobody called this pawn shop and tried to steal it out from under me. The shops phone number was right in the ad.

I called shop to see when they were shipping it and got into a huge discussion about how he had fielded numerous calls and offers to buy it for more than the 1500. The calls Came from members who told the owner of the shop they got his phone number by clicking The link off the Smith and wesson forum.

Thankfully for me the owner was a class act and honored our contract, but if he had taken the first higher bid. I would be out maybe the coolest find of the last 5 years.

I don't Fault the member who posted the link. He was prob genuinely excited about seeing a transitional 357 sold on GB, but it almost cost me the revolver.

I have heard other Horror stories of the same thing happening, but the original buyer lost out and the gun got sold from under the guy.

I literally didn't sleep for 2 nights after that post to the completed auction went up.

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05CarbonDRZ · #23 01-16-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jjbrewst1

I called shop to see when they were shipping it and got into a huge discussion about how he had fielded numerous calls and offers to buy it for more than the 1500. The calls Came from members who told the owner of the shop they got his phone number by clicking The link off the Smith and wesson forum.

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This is VERY sad,Anyone who did this should be ashamed of themselves

weatherby · #24 01-16-2014, 12:58 PM

James #1 I am glad you got it.
#2 I would love to see his phone record.

A #3 would be letting thanking The seller know and leaving appropriate feedback

handejector · #25 01-16-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 05CarbonDRZ

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Originally Posted by jjbrewst1

I called shop to see when they were shipping it and got into a huge discussion about how he had fielded numerous calls and offers to buy it for more than the 1500. The calls Came from members who told the owner of the shop they got his phone number by clicking The link off the Smith and wesson forum.

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This is VERY sad,Anyone who did this should be ashamed of themselves

The old term for that is "queering the deal". (we don't need any comments on the old term)
People who do that are usually shunned in the gun world, and their reputation will precede them and hurt them, as it should.
It is unethical, and, for lack of a better term, just flat low-rent.

Be Advised-

If a member of this board is ever conclusively caught doing this, I will ban you.
If we know your real name, we WILL post it for the world to see.
If you are a member of the SWCA, I will do my best to have you kicked out for unethical behavior, providing the losing buyer is willing to participate.
If you are not a member of the SWCA, I'll do my best to make sure you never are.

Pursuing/Collecting/Trading and even Dealing are great and enjoyable games, but they must be played ethically. Otherwise, it becomes a dog-eat-dog affair not worth participating in.

410bore · #26 01-16-2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by handejector

The old term for that is "queering the deal". (we don't need any comments on the old term)
People who do that are usually shunned in the gun world, and their reputation will precede them and hurt them, as it should.
It is unethical, and, for lack of a better term, just flat low-rent.

Be Advised-

If a member of this board is ever conclusively caught doing this, I will ban you.
If we know your real name, we WILL post it for the world to see.
If you are a member of the SWCA, I will do my best to have you kicked out for unethical behavior, providing the losing buyer is willing to participate.
If you are not a member of the SWCA, I'll do my best to make sure you never are.

Pursuing/Collecting/Trading and even Dealing are great and enjoyable games, but they must be played ethically. Otherwise, it becomes a dog-eat-dog affair not worth participating in.

AMEN! perfect Lee.

05CarbonDRZ · #27 01-16-2014, 01:11 PM

I could not have said it better myself Lee!

JSW · #28 01-16-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jjbrewst1

I don't Fault the member who posted the link. He was prob genuinely excited about seeing a transitional 357 sold on GB, but it almost cost me the revolver.

I’m very sorry if I’ve caused you any anxiety over this. I’m glad the seller honored the auction that you legitimately won. Perhaps I am naive but it just never occurred to me that there were actually people that would try to screw up someone’s auction AFTER it ended.

jjbrewst1 · #29 01-16-2014, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JSW

I’m very sorry if I’ve caused you any anxiety over this. I’m glad the seller honored the auction that you legitimately won. Perhaps I am naive but it just never occurred to me that there were actually people that would try to screw up someone’s auction AFTER it ended.

Please don't feel bad. I have done the same thing. Posted closed auctions. Unfortunately for us good guys, it can turn into a bad result. It all worked out in the end.

Which Nate and I are very thankful for!!

RKmesa · #30 01-16-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by handejector

Pursuing/Collecting/Trading and even Dealing are great and enjoyable games, but they must be played ethically. Otherwise, it becomes a dog-eat-dog affair not worth participating in.

I'll give a HUGE "AMEN!!!!" on that as well.

lowriderfxr · #31 01-16-2014, 04:52 PM

Back in the day, when I was trading hot and heavy, this happened to me. Thankfully, I had the good fortune of ethical sellers who believed in honoring the original deal. A couple of times I found out who the "outbidders" were and never really had any respect for them afterwards.

Maximumbob54 · #32 01-16-2014, 05:03 PM

Besides the fact that I wouldn't do it, I'm also to broke to do it!!!

I live vicariously though these posts and hope to see more pics upon arrival!!!

Dave from Pa · #33 01-16-2014, 06:25 PM

jjbrewst1,glad it worked out.Also that the owner was a stand up guy.I know the feeling about losing a gun to someone else.Some time ago l found a Lew Horton 610 3 inch 10mm in a local shop.Not knowing much about them l inquired on the forum.When l went to the shop Monday morning there was someone buying it over the phone from out of state.The gun had been there for sometime with little interest from anyone.I was pretty dumbfounded and received a real education that morning.Good luck and congratulations on a fine S&W.