4 screw variant consensus?

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The 4 screw gun was made from 55-61 so wouldn’t that be the lowest production years of any standard model variant available at the time (I’m sure excluding some)? Thus, making them (mostly) the least in supply and most rare?
Inquiring minds want to know :cool:
 
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"Rare" is a term I think most of us use for those items that are seldomly encountered, when production is in the thousands most of us would not consider them rare. Most four screw models may have relatively lower production numbers but few of them are rare, in my opinion anyway. Now a four screw 29-1 qualifies as rare but a four screw pre-29, not so much.

Jeff
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Probably depends on the model. The 5 screw design was manufactured beginning in 1905, so yes a much longer time than the 4 screw.
The .357 Combat Magnum began in 1956 as a 4 screw. There were no 5 screw guns.
The .44 Magnum began in 1956 as a 5 screw. Think 5 screws were produced 1956 and 1957. Think the first 4 screws guns were late 1957 or 1958.
 
I tend to think of the 4 screw guns in non-model marked and model marked variants, and have been accumulating them and the -1 K frames. High quality S&W's.
 
Depending on the model, revolvers with a 4-screw frame were shipped from early 1957 until being replaced by those with a 3-screw frame sometime in 1962. As stated above, the .357 Combat Magnum was introduced in January 1956 with a 4-screw frame. The engineering directive to replace the upper side plate screw on K-frames and add a tongue to the side plate was issued in September 1955 and for N-frames on September 7, 1956.

Bill
 
Credit where it's due.

The Chiefs Special Airweight, first regular production S&W revolver
with a four-screw frame, first shipped on October 2, 1952.

Of course I grasp a four-screw J-frame is a different creature than
a four-screw of the bigger frames because the J-frames lost
their trigger guard screw first.

By early 1955 the Chiefs Special Airweight (JA38) became the
first S&W revolver with a three-screw frame. I've long believed
it was the pioneer of the concept of the tongue on the side plate
to replace the upper side plate "bug" screw--and on Airweights--
the retainer screw needed to hold the bug in place.

Dr. Jinks told me Engineering Change #168 on December 13,
1955, said “Add a tongue to the top of all I, IT [I-frame Target],
& J side plates, make the tongue the same as on the JA38 side
plate. This will eliminate the bug screw (upper side plate screw)
and counter bore and hole.”

The first known three-screw carbon steel Chiefs Special, serial
number 73759 shipped to Shapleigh Hardware Company in St.
Louis, Missouri, on April 24, 1956.

Thread needs photos. Here are Chiefs Special Airweights with
four- and three-screw frames. S/n 24295 shipped to Flora
Mitchell Van Orden on February 11, 1953 (Rick Nahas photo),
and s/n 60625, shipped April 1, 1955, a few months after the
earliest three-screw Chiefs Special Airweights (s/n 526xx).
 

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