Anyone ever see this happen?

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This is a 27-2 with what I hope is a rare malfunction. When the side plate was removed for cleaning, a broken pin fell out and the trigger pivoted freely. In the first picture you can see where the Trigger Stud, part number 72 in the second picture (I know its a mod. 29 diagram, but the internals are the same) has sheared off at the surface of the frame. The last picture is the sheared end of the stud. Anybody ever see this happen? Do you think S&W can re-seat a new stud? I am not the original owner, and overall the gun is in collectible condition, 98% at least.

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I had a 629 (pre lock, pre mim, etc.) that sheared off the hammer stud in a similar manner. I bought it used with an unknown history and it broke while I was dry firing it. S&W fixed it for a reasonable price. They had to drill a hole through the frame side, which the new stud was pressed into. You could see the end of the stud in the frame after the surgery, but it worked well....
 
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thomasinaz said:
I had a 629 (pre lock, pre mim, etc.) that sheared off the hammer stud in a similar manner. I bought it used with an unknown history and it broke while I was dry firing it. S&W fixed it for a reasonable price. They had to drill a hole through the frame side, which the new stud was pressed into. You could see the end of the stud in the frame after the surgery, but it worked well....
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Any chance you could post a pic of that repair, Tom?
 
thomasinaz said:
I had a 629 (pre lock, pre mim, etc.) that sheared off the hammer stud in a similar manner. I bought it used with an unknown history and it broke while I was dry firing it. S&W fixed it for a reasonable price. They had to drill a hole through the frame side, which the new stud was pressed into. You could see the end of the stud in the frame after the surgery, but it worked well....
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They didn't drill a new hole. They knocked out the old hammer stud that was already there and installed a new one. Trust me, the end that you can see now, was always there, but they did such a good job polishing out their guns during final finish that most never know the stud ends are showing on the left side. The one that the OP has broken and the smaller cylinder stop pivot stud were install though the outside as well. Most of the time you can hold a blued gun up to the light just right and spot them. Same thing with a lot of their front sights. many never know that a ton of them were pinned on and not actually part of the ramp.



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I had the same thing happen to the hammer stud in a model 25 I bought used once. They do have to re-blue (or, in your case, re-nickel) the gun after doing the work, but they can do it and it isn't too bad cost wise.
 
More than once

I had to deadline at least three Model 19s for the agency where I work for that exact same problem. Their steady diet was 38+p, so I don't think it was any type of ammo problem (not that it should of been, anyway). I believe they were all 19-3s, so it could have been just a bad batch of trigger studs. They elected to survey them out rather than have them fixed.
 
We had fixtures/jigs in our shop for the J and K S&W revolvers to replace the hammer and trigger studs.
It was somhow not uncommon to have this problem during the 1970's and 80's on NYC officers revolvers.
Never was able to determine the cause.
 
I have seen this once in 40+ years, and not with a revolver I owned, but with a friend's. Yes, S&W can fix it and they are the only ones I would trust to do it correctly.
 
Tired Gunsmith said:
We had fixtures/jigs in our shop for the J and K S&W revolvers to replace the hammer and trigger studs.
It was somhow not uncommon to have this problem during the 1970's and 80's on NYC officers revolvers.
Never was able to determine the cause.
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The cause was the super heavy return springs that NYPD had specified on their revolvers, if I recall correctly.
 
It did happen to my 3"-1/2 M27. As I came back from the store. A excellent french smith fixed it (replacement) easily. Needed some blueing afterwards....
 
That's exactly what my smith did. And that's why my M27 needed some blueing after this operation.
 
Thanks again to everyone for the great info. I'll call S&W first thing monday to set up the repair, and follow up here the results when I get it back.

Bill
 
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