442-1 ? What's that mean? Newbie here help!

Polymerbuff · May 31, 2012

I got a new 442-1 , no internal lock, it is stamped that it shoots 38 plus p also. Is there a regular 442 and or A 442-2 also?
What are the difference in model #s? My serial # is CSP5****
On the yellow envelope with the spent round it has a date of 02/2012, is my gun the latest and newest version of the 442?

Thanks all

Bikemobile · May 31, 2012

My 442-2 has the lock. Bought new august 2010

C Islander · May 31, 2012

What it means is that you own a real nice J frame revolver!

photoman · May 31, 2012

Current production no-lock 442's are marked with the -1 engineering change.

CowboyKen · May 31, 2012

Very interesting as the no-lock 442 that I purchased from Bud's in November 2008 is marked 442-2. Not that it makes any difference or matters.

Ken

photoman · May 31, 2012

CowboyKen said:
Very interesting as the no-lock 442 that I purchased from Bud's in November 2008 is marked 442-2. Not that it makes any difference or matters.

Ken

That is interesting... All the ones I've seen, were -1's. Just another example of "anything goes" with S&W.

nipster · May 31, 2012

It's an Oldsmobile big block street racer

rrobertson · Jun 1, 2012

As stated above the -1 is no lock and the -2 has the lock. Its the same with the 642 the -1 has no lock and the -2 has the lock.

photoman · Jun 1, 2012

rrobertson said:
As stated above the -1 is no lock and the -2 has the lock. Its the same with the 642 the -1 has no lock and the -2 has the lock.

That was my understanding too but we have people here that have guns in hand that, pardon the pun, shoot holes in our theory.

-db- · Jun 1, 2012

rrobertson said:
As stated above the -1 is no lock and the -2 has the lock. Its the same with the 642 the -1 has no lock and the -2 has the lock.

No, as a few of us can attest, there are -2s without the lock. I have one myself.

For whatever reason, the engineering changes (the dashes) don't necessarily correspond with the lock regarding Centennials. This is my 442-2 and, as you can see, there is no lock:

fyimo · Jun 1, 2012

The SCSW 3rd addition says the 442-2 the change was the addition of the lock but as we all know S&W uses all of their parts so some probably early 442-2's left the factory with the old no lock frame. S&W has done this on pretty much every engineering change like when they dropped the P&R features on magnum revolvers in 1982 some of the final guns had one feature but not the other and are referred to as being transition revolvers up here on the forum.

rrobertson · Jun 1, 2012

Well there goes my way of thinking that have had for some time. Is it safe to say that for the most part, besides from maybe some batches/years where the dashes didnt coorespond with the theory that it is trueish?

fyimo · Jun 1, 2012

rrobertson said:
Well there goes my way of thinking that have had for some time. Is it safe to say that for the most part, besides from maybe some batches/years where the dashes didnt coorespond with the theory that it is trueish?

I guess I would say it most always true on engineering changes but there are revolvers out there that got of the last pre engineering change parts as S&W did use up their inventory and sometimes it took a while.

Hapworth · Jun 1, 2012

-db- said:
This is my 442-2 and, as you can see, there is no lock:

There should seriously be a rule here that you can't post a picture without identifying the grips.

Those a beautiful. Who made them?

-db- · Jun 1, 2012

That's a Craig Spegel grip.

photoman · Jun 1, 2012

Yep. Those are Spegel Centennial boot grips.

Polymerbuff · Jun 3, 2012

I think I got a great price! I got my 442 with no lock, brand new from gunbroker for,$305 plus $25 shipping and $25 ffl transfer fee, total out the door $355! I couldn't believe, gun shops around me wanted $400 and up plus tax and they are all of stock! Why is this gun so hard to get? I lucked out with this amazing price. What do,u guys think?

photoman · Jun 3, 2012

Polymerbuff said:
Why is this gun so hard to get?

Lots of demand for the Centennial Airweights. Last I heard, the 642 was S&W's number one seller.

notsofast · Jun 3, 2012

nipster said:
It's an Oldsmobile big block street racer

4 barrel carb, 4 speed transmission, and dual (2) exhaust

ltxi · Jun 4, 2012

Huh....mine is no dash and it's kinda old. Guess I oughta be thinkin' of trading it in.

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