Model 64 NY-1

lowercase · Mar 14, 2014

Just placed an order for a Model 64 4" revolver in NY-1 finish.

From the pics, it looks to be a square butt version, and was $389.

I remember these being much less expensive (like over $100 cheaper), but I just never got around to ordering one. Not crazy about paying the higher price, but I have a feeling that these aren't going to get any cheaper. Lesson learned.

Here's a link to the site where I found it.

Smith & Wesson 64 Revolver, 38 Special, 4" Barrel, NY1 Finish, DAO & Bobbed, VG+ Condition, Used, S&W.

TAROMAN · Mar 14, 2014

Got mine a few years back from J&G.
About $260 or so, IIRC.
Maybe yours will be nicer.
Finish was very worn and the action was "short stroking" (whatever that is).
Sent it to S&W for the "Combat Revolver" job.
OK except they didn't re-stamp the SN on the side of the frame.

Realgunner · Mar 14, 2014

TAROMAN, Nice gun. Did S&W do that bead blast looking finish on it when you sent it to them? Do they normally stamp the serial # on the side when you get a trigger job? Please elaborate. Thanks

TAROMAN · Mar 14, 2014

Yes, S&W renewed the blasted finish.
A unique feature of the NY-1s was the S/N stamping on the left side of the frame. A NYPD requirement, I presume.
My later 696-1 is also stamped there, though not a police gun.

murphydog · Mar 14, 2014

The laser etched serial numbers on the left frame were placed so the information was visible, even with stocks that covered the bottom of the grip frame (a window was cut into rubber stocks for the same reason) and without opening the cylinder. Don't know why they did it on non-NYPD guns too. The etched SN was not very deep and easily removed (intentionally or otherwise) and went away after a brief time.

M1Lover · Mar 14, 2014

I was in J&G yesterday, rode the FLH over the mountain from Jerome. Little chilly, awesome ride, but I digress.
J&G has piles of these 64's. I also bought one couple years ago for $260. J&G, IMO, like every other dealer, is milking the current market to the limit. That's our system. They've got a ton of very high-priced handguns and apparently sell them like hotcakes. Just not to me….
I walked out empty handed and enjoyed some good Thai food in Prescott and another awesome HD ride back over the mountain.
My NYPD revolver had UGLY carved up Pachmeyer's on it but shoots great and .38 is about as cheap ammo as you can get. I wish they had piles of 65's…. Enjoy your revolver!

05CarbonDRZ · Mar 14, 2014

I love my 4" NY-1,It is my Bed side Gun.With a spring change and some trigger work the DA pull is amazing.I would happily pay $400 for one if I did not already have one,Great Guns.And what kind of Gun are you going to walk into a LGS or Gander Mountain/Cabela's and buy for $400??

ladder13 · Mar 14, 2014

Early NY-1 without the serial number under the cylinder.

crazdgunman · Mar 14, 2014

I gotta' say, $390 still sounds like a pretty fair price.

papajohn428 · Mar 16, 2014

I've bought several of the 64's from J&G, they offered them in Very Good Condition for $269 or $249 for standard condition a few years back, and I couldn't resist. I also wear a 64 at work, and the triggers on all of them are excellent. My 686+ is still my favorite Smith, but the other three are right on its heels!

Enigmedic · Mar 23, 2014

ny-1 status

Lowercase,
Did you receive your J&G 64 yet? If so, how is the condition? I have a few NY-1 64's and a 60, but I am always looking for more. The deal sounds good if I can find a 4" square butt OR 3" round butt; please let us know how it worked out.

papajohn428 · Mar 24, 2014

If J&G has 3" round-butt 64's or 65's for sale, then my budget is in serious trouble. I just had to have a 3" 64, so I bought a 4" gun and a 3" barrel and had it put together myself. It doubled the cost of the gun, but it's exactly what I wanted.

kbm6893 · Mar 24, 2014

There is NO WAY I would spend that kind of money on a 25 year old DAO police trade-in. When we went to the semi auto in 1993, guys were selling their 64 NY-1's for 50 bucks. I know times have changed, but that revolver is not worth more than $250.

Hapworth · Mar 24, 2014

kbm6893 said:
There is NO WAY I would spend that kind of money on a 25 year old DAO police trade-in. When we went to the semi auto in 1993, guys were selling their 64 NY-1's for 50 bucks. I know times have changed, but that revolver is not worth more than $250.

What the market consistently bears now says otherwise. If you know the times have changed, you know that $250 doesn't get you much anymore, certainly not a pre-lock, pre-MIM NY-1 Model 64 in NRA "good" or better condition.

Doubtless someone will come along to declare their "minty" 64 with box, tools and docs just bought for $5

-- someone always does -- but we are rapidly approaching a market where $250 is bottom barrel beater territory.

papajohn428 · Mar 24, 2014

When my department switched from 681's to Beretta 9mm's, they offered our old guns to us for $100 each. That was about the same time, early 90's. Have you seen what those guns are bringing NOW?

$250 for ANY Model 64 in decent shape is a screaming bargain these days.

pharmer · Mar 24, 2014

I think it was "Jerry's Sports Center" or somesuch that was selling these NY-1's for $169 each ($159 per/3) back around '89. Slow movers, took me awhile to sell the other 2 @ $225. Joe

kbm6893 · Mar 24, 2014

If it was not DAO I would be more likely to agree. But a DAO gun is not for me. I love a k frame but sold my 64 NY-1 for 125 bucks back in 95. Fair price then and fair price now

Hapworth · Mar 24, 2014

kbm6893 said:
If it was not DAO I would be more likely to agree. But a DAO gun is not for me. I love a k frame but sold my 64 NY-1 for 125 bucks back in 95. Fair price then and fair price now

Credit for acknowledging you base your assessment on personal preference and not what's actually happening in the market place.

And I've got a box of money for any and all quality 64s you'd sell for $125.

kbm6893 · Mar 24, 2014

Hapworth said:
Credit for acknowledging you base your assessment on personal preference and not what's actually happening in the market place.

And I've got a box of money for any and all quality 64s you'd sell for $125.

Wouldn't sell it for 125 now. But 300 for a DAO pd trade-in is more then fair. With shipping and Ffl transfer you're over 400 bucks. That is insane. And te reason the market is crazy is because panic buyers are paying.

Anybody wanna buy my 1992 Panasonic TV? Only 700 bucks. It's a classic !

Hapworth · Mar 24, 2014

kbm6893 said:
Wouldn't sell it for 125 now.

But you said it was a fair price now.

And te reason the market is crazy is because panic buyers are paying.

There've been many good threads of late discussing prices so I won't rehash but to say that although the panic this time last year was certainly driving prices of some items up, the panic's over.

Prices were going up long before it and have continued to after it. Lots of reasons, chief of which is that there's continuing demand for a good that is diminishing permanently.

The economic implications of that are simple.

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