Reloading Techniques

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Hello, what techniques do y'all use, I learn the universal reload technique with speed loaders from a Grant Cunningham book. Its cool, but every time I practiced. All I used was bullet loops, and I tilted the revolver to 90 degree angle and ejected the casings with my left hand with out removing my shooting hand from the grip brought the gun down and loaded it with bullets from the loops. The way I did it. I was alert and can see around me. I even notice a surveyor from the Texas High Speed Rail company watching. I can use the speed loaders with both hands but I just cant bring my self to practice with them. I always fall back onto the bullet loops. I am almost all self-taught and self study. So I am trying to learn the best way I can.

what techniques do y'all use and what do you use to carry you ammo?
 
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I use Michael deBethencourt's method:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjRTdXvjBmE[/ame]

It's the method that works best for me. Ayoob's technique is also good.

I carry my speedloaders in JOX pouches just behind my left hip, the same place I'd carry spare magazines if I were carrying a semi-auto (I like consistency).
 
I been carrying my gun in 2 types of holsters one is for CC the other is in a western holster rig. I wear the rig when I am out side working but I had some success with it for CC I just put it under my jacket. Works fine so far. I practice with both. I draw my revolver and bring it to eye level just like the books and videos say. I been studying Jerry Miculek, I copy his stance and his thumb over thumb. Some of the best advice comes from Grant Cunninghams book. I "roll the boat" with the trigger. I do not "stage" the trigger. I pull it all the way back and let it reset than repeat. But most of what I want to know now is bullet loops or speed loaders.
 
I can use the speed loaders with both hands but I just cant bring my self to practice with them.

Joining ICORE or IDPA revolver will motivate you to learn to get fast.

I use Mr Miculek's reloading method---just not quite as fast.
 
I learned to load from the loops beginning in the mid 60's. I perfected that technique over the next several years as my employment required a belt slide with loops as a mandatory part of our uniform and gear. After using a competion model belt slide that held 18 rounds and had the loops set off from the slide leather by one piece of leather strip sewn between the loops and the belt slide, I had a uniform approved 12 loop belt slide made in the same manner. The additional piece of leather held the cartridges away from the belt slide just enough to allow fingers to quickly slide two at a time up to grasp and remove. My loops were also positioned so that the cartridge heads were just about even with the top of the slide. I was able to push up two cartridges far enough above the slide to easily grasp them and control them for reloading purposes. This worked very well for me, and since I got lots of practice reloading from these loops, I got to the point where I could reload very quickly and securely.

My method of reloading involves opening the cylinder with the left hand and allowing my two middle fingers to slip through the cylinder window and grasp the cylinder between those two fingers and my thumb. This after holding the revolver with barrel up and pressing the ejector rod to empty the spent rounds. I also held the revolver securely in my right hand until this was accomplished. I maintained control of the revolver by using my forefinger and pinkie (over the barrel and behind the hammer spur), lowering the barrel toward the ground, and extracting two fresh rounds from my loops and inserting them two at a time into the cylinder. I rolled the cylinder slightly counter clockwise to bring two empty chambers to the position most agreeable for insertion of two more rounds while reaching for two more live rounds. Upon filling the cylinder, I grasped the grips and closed the cylinder and brought the gun back up into battery with a two hand hold. I could fire twelve rounds (one reload) in less than twenty seconds while maintaining impact of all rounds within the ten ring on a B-27 target. And with much practice, this could be done with minimal looking directly at the gun or the loops. I always had less likelihood of fumbling my reloads when done in this manner as opposed to using speedloaders and it was more convenient (for me) to carry my reloads in the loops than in a speedloader holder. I always had a couple or three speed loaders handy in my howl car for back up ammo and in case I needed to reload while in the vehicle. This method worked very well for me over many years of duty carry.

I now use a belt slide device that carries six rounds, not in loops but in three individual "pockets" that allows very easy access to them for reloading in the same manner as one would with loops. The part of this device that holds the reloads is covered by a flap easily opened and the pouch part drops forward enough to keep the flap from interfering with access to the reloads. This device works very well for concealed carry since it give no real indication that I am carry reloads on my belt. If you practice with the loops until you are proficient loading from them, you can do it quickly and positively and securely, with the added benefit that you can make a partial reload if circumstances allow that. In that case, you hold the barrel down and raise the ejector rod just enough to raise the cases out of the cylinder about half an inch, then release the ejector rod after which the loaded rounds will slip back into place and the spent (expanded) cases will generally remain raised so that they can be plucked out and replaced. Takes a bit more time, of course, but it works (with practice. I like loading from the loops or this pouch I described. One place that sells this type of cartridge carrier is El Paso Saddlery. It is a quality made piece of gear and it works! I also shoot with both thumbs down and I do NOT stage the trigger. A smooth continuous pull all the way through with good follow through is the best way to get your best accuracy when shooting double action.
 
I basically use the FBI reload, though more like Clint Smiths demonstration with the punching of the empties vs thumbing the ejector rod since I'm usually carrying a snubby.
 
I basically use the FBI reload, though more like Clint Smiths demonstration with the punching of the empties vs thumbing the ejector rod since I'm usually carrying a snubby.

I use that too, although I didn't know that was what it was called. I elevate the barrel a little more, and also typically shake the rear of the cylinder toward the ground while thumbing the ejector just in case of stubborn or stuck rounds.

I'm right hand so when trying to do something as detailed as reload I'd prefer the extra fine motor skills of my dominate hand.
 
You should try different methods until you find the one you are most comfortable and efficient with. There is really no right- wrong or best - but there is one best method for you.

Personally I like reloading right from a leather ammo belt pouch. I have practiced with dummys enough over the years and have become as fast as some can get with a Speed Strip. I dislike conventional Speed Loaders as they are bulky and awkward to carry in a pocket. Speed Strips are fine for some but for me reloading directly from a pouch works best. YMMV quite a bit here. Do what works for you.
 
I don't normally carry revolver speed loaders, I carry two revolvers. It's much faster for me and I don't have to fumble around with speed loaders. Each pair of my carry revolvers (usually 2 Colt "D" frames or 2 Smith & Wesson "J" frames) have the same stocks on them so both guns feel the same. I also practice left and right, two handed shooting. If my bacon's on the line I have no problem dropping an empty gun. It works for me.

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Me too...I took one of his snub fighting workshops...great stuff!

Me three...I took his course a couple of years ago, and his reloading method works well for me. Some people feel that the non-dexterous hand can't accomplish the fine motor skills needed to put 6 separate cartridges into 6 separate holes. Yet in any of the transfer methods, the weak hand has to juggle the revolver back and forth. I carry two speed loaders so that if I bobble one to the ground I have another. Bobbling the revolver seems like a worse scenario to me.

Also, once you transfer the revolver to the weak hand, the strong-side hand now has to reach around the frame of the gun. I can't seem to do this without cocking my wrist, elbow, and shoulder awkwardly, actually making it harder for me to get the rounds into the charge holes than if I just used my weak hand. Not transferring the gun just works better for me as I find it smoother and more natural.

Keep in mind, however, that if you use deBethencourt's method, do it EXACTLY as he teaches. Every subtle move has a purpose. He has thought this through down to the last detail.
 
if you use deBethencourt's method, do it EXACTLY as he teaches. Every subtle move has a purpose. He has thought this through down to the last detail.

It was during his course that I came to understand how effective a speed STRIP can be.

He conducted one exercise where we (the students) had to fire our revolvers until empty (I was using a 66 snub, but most were using 5 shot j-frames or Ruger LCR) and then reload and get a shot on target.

The fastest to get a shot on target (after reloading) was the "winner".

I was the winner, as I simply put two rounds in the cylinder, using the speed strip, and then indexed as I closed the cylinder, bringing my revolver up and squeezing the trigger.

In other words, would you rather have a "topped off" cylinder, or get back into the fight quickly? Yes, a full cylinder of ammo might also save your life, but when shots on target are more important....two rounds from a speed strip might be the ones that save your life.

(if you prefer to carry speed loaders....then this method goes out the window, as you'll be topping off your entire cylinder anyhow.......I just prefer a speed strip, for ease of concealment and carry)
 
I use the Massad Ayoob method, though I didn't learn it from him. It just came naturally. My first handgun experience was with my father's Colt Frontier Scout. The loading gate it on the right so, so you have to transfer to the left side to reload it. I reload all my revolvers, regardless of type or reloading method, with the gun in my left hand.
 
I don't normally carry revolver speed loaders, I carry two revolvers. It's much faster for me and I don't have to fumble around with speed loaders. Each pair of my carry revolvers (usually 2 Colt "D" frames or 2 Smith & Wesson "J" frames) have the same stocks on them so both guns feel the same. I also practice left and right, two handed shooting. If my bacon's on the line I have no problem dropping an empty gun. It works for me.

De Oppresso Liber

I agree and do the same. It gives me 10 rounds and if that isn't enough I have 2 revolvers to throw at my assailant before running!
 
I'm a true believer in the old saying; "He who fights and knows when to run away, lives to fight another day." I haven't lived this long by being stupid :)

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I use weak hand Comp III SLs. I like keeping the gun in my strong hand and dislike carrying everything on my right.

I don't get the problem carrying SLs in a pocket. I've carried an HKS 29 (N-frame .44) in a jeans pocket. It bulges but someone would really have to be looking and what to look for to know what it is. K-frame COMP IIIs are even better, the shape is less distinct. Just don't wear super-tight jeans:-)
 
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