New to the forum. Lot of good information here.

I've been looking at the MP 15-22. I'm almost convinced.

I was just wondering if anyone has any experience with the cheap Mark III tactical scopes available at the Valhalla armory web site. I hope the scope would hold up to .22lr for a couple of years. I can't find much information besides people blowing it off as junk in AR forums. I believe they are made by NCStar. I'm trying to keep the tacticool factor, but without spending much. 50yds would be all I would want/expect out of it. Purely plinking.

Any input or thoughts appreciated.

I recently bought an AR15 not S&W,I also bought a scope for it. I haven't shot the weapon yet but the scope is a,
NcSTARMark III,6x42,P4 Sniper STP642G
NC Star Mark III Tactical Series 642G 6X42 Compact Riflescopes w/ Fully Multi Coated Lens FREE S&H STPAQ642G, STP642G, STMAQ642G, STM642G, STRAQ642G, STR642G. NcSTAR Riflescopes.

i picked up a nc star mkIII tactical 3-9x42 rubber armored scope this weekend at a gun show.. right then and there i called the company my optics are on backorder with and changed my order to this.. i really like this.... just my .02

I have 2 NC Star scopes one on my 15-22 and one on my ar15T and don't have any complaints on either of them.

I did have an issue with one and this is why I have no complaint... one of the scopes I traded for and found I could not get it on paper at 25 yds, sent it back to NCStar and they replaced the scope for free based on their lifetime warranty so I have no complaints...

They seem to hold up well and hold zero well under the conditions I have used them...

I have a NCStar on my SKS. It works fine for plinking.

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Do we have a pic of that scope?

It is a great scope for plinking. I don't care for the lighted reticle, but to each their own. It has very clear optics and is dead simple to use.
The crosshairs don't co-witness to the iron sights tho, so I made a spacer to fix that. If I'm going to make one, I might as well make a bunch. Mine has the Weaver/Picatinny base with the quick release.

Mine should be here end of the month they said and ill post pics of it on the gun

Thanks for the replies.
Put a deposit on a 15-22 until my bg clears. I will pick it up Friday.
As long as they hold zero, it's good enough for me. Still deciding what scope I want. Didn't know about the warranty on them, very nice for a cheap scope.
Can't wait to put some rounds through it this weekend.

New optics came in and i figured id go back and post pics for 27 cause he asked it features a quick detach a built in laser and the reticle glows bright blue... this thing is sweet... oh and it 3-9x42mm

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I got the same exact one one the way. I was going to buy the original ncstar mark III 3-9x42 with out the laser but i found one with the laser for the same exact price. Holding zero pretty good?

I've been looking for a scope and a laser. This one looks like it will kill two birds with one stone. I shoot in the cold a lot. Does it fog up?

i havent hadd any prob. other than when the battery gets weak you cant use the laser and lit reticle together but the battery holds up pretty good.. i gave $152... shipped to my door

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Been looking at the Sniper Comp. What do ya think about extending the Sniper Comp about 9 inches longer..... I mean 9 inches longer inside the rail. There's a lot of big holes in that rail to see right thru. Guess you'd need to work up a new end cap...

Vitamin3..... stop shaking that silver spray can

I got mine pretty cheap $113.00 shipped. I will be posting up pics of my 15-22 once I get it back from S&W, hopefully this week. The scope looks awesome on your gun.

thanx, i think it goes good with that shroud... you got the rubberized 3-9x42mm for 113 shipped dang dude i thought i got a deal cause everywhere else wanted 200 for it

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If you don't mind me asking, where did you order it? Best I've seen is $164 with a free spotting scope. NcSTAR Tactical and Red Dot Scopes and Accessories for AR-15, M16 and all Rifles and Pistols

It can be don no prob.. just time consuming

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I got mine off of ebay, all of the rubberized ncstar 3-9x42's w/ laser sight where like $164.00 buy it now and then i found one for auction for $99.00 so I bid on it and won it for $113.00. I've been looking and waiting to find one for pretty cheap and I finally did, took me about 2-3 weeks to find one but I got it.

I had a 2-7 NcStar the reticle was canted “out of level” and cannot be adjusted since there are no scope rings. I returned it for a Vortex 2-7.

Belt-Fed it’s hard to tell but in the 3rd picture yours looks the same. Might just be the picture.

No its perfect, just not talented enough to hold gun on target and operate camara at the same time lol

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Just got my Ncstar Mark III 3-9x42 today and guess what, I have the same problem as 919 did the cross hairs are out of level. I put the scope on a level surface then looked down the scope and noticed that the cross hairs where not level. Don't know what I should do now hopefully the eBay member will give me a full refund back, because in order to get it fixed or a new one back you have to pay for shipping to ship it to Ncstar and give them $10.00 for them to ship it back to you after it's either fixed or they send you a new one if it can't be fixed. I'm pissed.

Sorry to hear that

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I can't really be to mad about it though because I've read some reviews about the same problem I have, but was hoping that mine wouldn't be like that. It looks like it would be an awesome scope if the cross hairs where level. Don't really know if I want to buy another Ncstar though. Are their any other scope out their that have a quick release lever and the same design as the Ncstar?

I just bought a NStar holo sight with 4 reticles . I was pleasantly surprised at both quality and performance. I will probably buy another for my Sig 522, too.

You can buy the NcStar quick release picatinny rail, and put on any scope you want. I put a 50MM on mine and it fits fine. The scope outperforms the .22 but thats ok.

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Went to the local gun show today looking for sights/scopes.

The NC Star 1.25-4x 30 mm looked really nice. At 1.25x, it's close enough to use 2 eye aiming with quite a bit of eye relief. Was still bright at 4x. The reticles illuminate REALLY bright, especially when green.

I'm assuming this mounts the same as everyone who has the 3x-9x version. Is the height OK? Any issues?

Anyone know of other scopes in this price range and zoom ranges from 1.0/1.25 - 3x or 4x?

I've attached a pix of my 1.25-4X NCS scope mounted on my 15-22. The height is OK for me, and I don't see the need for adding an extra riser at all. (Your mileage may vary...)

So far, it's working really well for me, and I do like the low-power option of having both eyes open and great visibility. Plus, the higher-power option in case I ever take this out for small game. I have yet to sight-in the other top-turret settings though (is now just sighted-in on "1" at 50 feet for our indoor range, but I really need to get back out and see where "2" thru "5" hit, as I believe the scope is calibrated for .223 ammo with a 100-yard zero).

Some other users (Amazon reviews) have reported "slanted reticle problems", but others have also cured that by pressing down HARD on that side of the rail when you tighten it up. I did that, and dare I say my Sniper reticle is close to perfect.

Oh... and I really do like how my limited-edition 10-round mag looks on this piece too. (Search on my prior posts, if you missed the details on how to make those!)

Tight groups all!

Old No7

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I had the slanted reticle problem with my 3-9x42 and could not do anything to get them level. So I called up NCstar and shipped it to them and now their are sending me a brand new replacement that should be here this week. NCstar has great customer service.

I'm still wanting to do your 10 round mag mod also, just haven't had the time to do it.

1. Which reticle did you get (I'm thinking MIL-DOT)

2. Do you have any issues with the illumination being TOO bright (ie - you can't see the target)?

3. Did you look at other brands/models?

Im just gonna mention this as some may not know.
But you can buy much higher quality optics for not much more money threw Nikon. Granted its no ACOG or Military style scope, Its quality and accuracy are hard to beat for the money.
I paid $180 for 3-9x40 Buckmasters and the Prostaff's are in the low $100's range.

I understand looks and symmetry and style/theme people want for their gun. I just want to point out for similar too a tad more money you can have very good quality optics.

Just to show im not an elitist ive owned 2 basic $30 Tasco red dots both which worked perfectly for what i needed.

I actually think Tasco has a pretty proven track record and have for many decades. They were the original "cheap, good scope". This whole thread kind of scares me because I want to go with the MarkIII but if it's going to come with a crooked reticule I'm not sure it's worth my time.. And it's not exactly cheap I am looking at the MarkIII 3-9x42 with the MDAB RDS on top and it's a good $200.00

I've got two Tasco PPD2 and have terrorized them for over a decade with many tens of thousands rounds of 45ACP, 9mm and .223. They cost around a $hundred+ back then and still work perfectly. As far as being able to handle typical civilian range abuse, the old PPD2 takes a second seat to no other red dot optic as far as I'm concerned.

169.00 shipped at RRages this is the first time ive heard of people having problems out of them. ive been looking into them for a while, even asked some members on here about em. kind of scares me too

Amazon has the Mark III 4 x 32 for $61. Maybe not quite as nice as the 3-9 x 42 version, but the price is good. I haven't seen any of them for less than $73.

Here is the link: Amazon.com: NcStar Mark III Tactical 4x32 illuminated Rifle Scope With Quick Detach Scope Mount For AR15 Mini-14: Sports & Outdoors

Guys my price I listed was high but that was a 'round figure" I am looking at the model with the MDAB Red Dot on the back/top of the scope.

Primary Arms 1-4X 24 Illuminated Scope
$120 (poormans burris)

Primary Arms 1-4X 24 Illuminated Scope

Most of the reviews I have seen on the Primary arms are good. Like I said I went with a 2-7 Vortex and have been very happy but it might not meet your needs.

NC Star Mark lll Tactical Mil Dot Scope 3-9x42 Illuminated Reticle With Mini Red Dot Sight 

Jswiney,

Thanks for the link! I spent a lot of time on Rrages and didn't see that one! ordering it tonight

Anything that says Vortex on it is WAAAAY out of my price range

~tc~ Check out the Vortex Crossfire line. Mine was $115.
Vortex Crossfire 2-7x32 Riflescope V-Plex Reticle CRF-02-PLEX FREE S&H CRF-02-PLEX. Vortex Riflescopes.

They also have a 1.5-4 for $99 but I liked the looks of the Primary Arms better.
Vortex Crossfire 1.5-4x32 Riflescope V-PLEX Reticle CRF-09-PLEX FREE S&H CRF-09-PLEX. Vortex Riflescopes.

hehe np, ive been looking at that one and the blue illuminated for a while, let me know how that one does if you dont mind! ive heard of problems with the laser on the other one i wanted.

Ordered from RRages I went with the 3-9x42 mildot with the RDS on top.

I may put my FAKEOG up for sale on the forums (classifieds) for some other 15-22 owner to make use of. It's a great zero magnification red dot, it's performed great through 400 rounds so far.

I will let you know what I think of this scope when it gets here, and of course there will be the obligatory photos! I just hope I get a "good one".

Here's my replies for ~tc~...

#1 -- I got the P4 Sniper, which has "hash marks" instead of mil dots. But I liked it.

#2 -- I can see why you say that, but for what I use it for, I've not had an issue. At the brightest setting, you will see some colored glare or flare on the inside body of the scope, so I just use the lowest setting.

#3 -- Looked at the Bushnell T-Dot red-dot sight, but that was HEAVY and had no magnification. I really wanted a small, compact, "tactical looking" scope with a sniper-type reticle, and this one works for me.

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Thanks.

I've actually found several 1x-4x scopes out there - search for "shotgun scope". Kinda makes sense - they often need as wide an angle of view as possible.

Unfortunately, they all seem to have small reticles and look like they belong on a musket, not an "AR" ... some I'm sure have better optics than the NC Star, but between all the features and the aesthetics, I'm getting more and more drawn to the NC Star ...

~tc~

That's what my issue was. I wanted something that was dare I say ACOG-like, in form factor but wasn't priced out at $1200.00

I don't consider $169 to be "cheap" I think $20.00 is "cheap" so I'm hoping it's at least up to par for something in that price range.

It was funny, I went to the gun show with a friend of mine (who happens to be former LE weapons instructor, Glock armorer, all that stuff) and saw some used ACOGs.

I asked the vendor to see one, and my buddy kinda raised an eyebrow and said "check the price".

I replied back, "I want to know what a real one is like so I will know what I'm missing when I buy a knockoff". He laughed.

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is about the ACOG other than it doesn't take batteries. Optics didn't seem to be much better than a lot of the other scopes I've looked through.

I just bought an NCStar. Hopefully it's a good one!

FYI - screamin' deals on NC Star, best prices by far I have seen

NCSTAR MARK III M-DT 1.25-4X32 QUICK RELEASE STM125432G - eBay (item 200438995799 end time Mar-14-10 16:52:53 PDT)

Hey Brett does it look like this....

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