amazingflapjack
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Wife's military brother dogged my AR Sport
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Yeah, extremely GOOD, extremely well trained and extremely proud!
Semper Fi, oneyeopen Brother!
Former Airman, perhaps BUT NO "former" Marines. Other than a DD or BCD, you are a Marine for life!
Many people can only regurgitate what has been taught to them. He has been trained in a specific course of thought, and so he staunchly believes it to be an absolute. I know some who are adamant in their beliefs, but when pressed as to why they feel as they do, it comes down to only knowing one aspect of the subject, and they treat that bit of knowledge as law.
Glocks are THE best handgun (because the instructor said so).
Coors Light is the best beer (because the TV said so).
The key to an informed opinion is to be well rounded.
Glocks are THE best handgun (because the instructor said so).
Coors Light is the best beer (because the TV said so).
The key to an informed opinion is to be well rounded.
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cyphertext
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Yeah, I guess I did screw that up huh? No offense meant.
None taken, my friend. We were/are ALL brothers in arms, regardless of branch. My brother (older, smarter) was in the Air Force BUT Mom always liked me best!
I love my Sport and wouldn't trade it for any other AR 15.
Why should I pay a bunch more money for a gun that is no better or no more accurate then my Sport. Maybe the high dollar guys are kind of kinked because they paid alot more and didn't get anything more
Why should I pay a bunch more money for a gun that is no better or no more accurate then my Sport. Maybe the high dollar guys are kind of kinked because they paid alot more and didn't get anything more
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Nope, a Mustang will get you there but a Ferrari does it with a bit more style. It's all good but life isn't always about simple utility.
Personally, I'd love to have an LMT rifle but the cost doesn't give me ENOUGH more than my M&P 15. I like the sport but wouldn't trade mine for one because the savings FOR ME, don't outweigh the esthetics. Everybody should be able to have/have not as they see fit regardless of others' preferences.
concho mike
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If I were in one of the 'stans i'd want a dust cover, other than that its fine. My M16 didn't have a forward assist either. I think the forward assists were given to the girls 
Its a sporting rifle and imho a darn good quality one.
Its a sporting rifle and imho a darn good quality one.
M2MikeGolf
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I am going to politely ignore a bunch of the blasting of this guy due to his being Army, a gun snob, etc. His opinion is based on the equipment he gets issued (which he doesn't buy, to include hammers, unless he is also a contracting officer) and the training he received and now gives, which is extensive. He also appears to have practical experience. He is a product of the system, just as some are of other systems, which means he has confidence in the systems which he uses and teaches, it's necassary for success in his environment. A guy like him is going to pretty well look down his nose at anything other than his world, just like another poster has done the same to him. My point is, if you asked his advice, he probably wasn't the right guy to ask. If he offered it without your asking, it's the aggressivness that he has been taught as an expert in his field, but still more than a little impolite. In an environment like Afghanistan and Iraq, I can promise you that a forward assist and an ejection port cover are important items indeed, just as they were in Vietnam where those requirements came into being for a variety of reasons, one of the being mud, sand, water, etc. If those items are not included then they it can't be considered mil spec, since those are mil spec requirements, whether you agree that they should be there or not.
However, that is not to say that anything is wrong with your AR sport. It has some features not included because they are simply not necassary for it's intended use. The fact that you were able to shoot it, well and with no functioning issues pretty well prove that. A better evaluator of your ARs performance is other users of the same weapon and your own experience with it. Unless you plan to take it to the mideast or somewhere else, I wouldn't worry about his comments, but he really shouldn't have been that critical, but his view is a narrow one; it has to be in his environment, but he should learn to be a little more open minded. For myself, I've always been careful not to be openly critical (no matter what I may have thought) to friends and relations about their personal firearms, unless I spotted a legitimate safety issue, which rarely (if at all) happens with a modern weapon like yours. I always thought it was better to point out advantages and design strengths. If you are comfortable with the quality, accuracy and are proficient with your AR (which sounds like is the case), then you can disregard his comments as "prima dona" isms, something that all experts have an annoying tendency to practice. You have a good weapon there, and since you know how to use it, don't need to worry about absolute comments.
I routinely shoot and converse with an old US Army Ranger (Vietnam era) sniper trained retiree that currently is in charge of a European sport shooting team, and I know he would never make such comments. Chalk it up to a "whatever" experience. Enjoy your rifle!
However, that is not to say that anything is wrong with your AR sport. It has some features not included because they are simply not necassary for it's intended use. The fact that you were able to shoot it, well and with no functioning issues pretty well prove that. A better evaluator of your ARs performance is other users of the same weapon and your own experience with it. Unless you plan to take it to the mideast or somewhere else, I wouldn't worry about his comments, but he really shouldn't have been that critical, but his view is a narrow one; it has to be in his environment, but he should learn to be a little more open minded. For myself, I've always been careful not to be openly critical (no matter what I may have thought) to friends and relations about their personal firearms, unless I spotted a legitimate safety issue, which rarely (if at all) happens with a modern weapon like yours. I always thought it was better to point out advantages and design strengths. If you are comfortable with the quality, accuracy and are proficient with your AR (which sounds like is the case), then you can disregard his comments as "prima dona" isms, something that all experts have an annoying tendency to practice. You have a good weapon there, and since you know how to use it, don't need to worry about absolute comments.
I routinely shoot and converse with an old US Army Ranger (Vietnam era) sniper trained retiree that currently is in charge of a European sport shooting team, and I know he would never make such comments. Chalk it up to a "whatever" experience. Enjoy your rifle!
M2MikeGolf...a very nice post indeed, I learned the same lesson when it came to people's horses. It may not be anything that I would own but if they like it thats all that matters and instead of pointing out the horses IMO's faults, you point out the good things, even if all you can say is "thats a pretty color" it keeps from causing friction in relationships.
crracer_712
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LOL, my cousin doesn't have that kind of tact when it comes to horses. He's very opinionated and would ask where you got that crow bait? According to him, all I own is crow bait.... But it doesn't keep him from asking to borrow a couple to go elk hunting in the mountains though
If someone dont like my gun, they are always welcome to buy me a better one.
its like one of the best beers I ever had was a free one lol..........
its like one of the best beers I ever had was a free one lol..........
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