Why No 30 or 33 Round M&P Mags?

colt_saa said:

I have never considered Glock to be Smith and Wesson's competitor

Glock will never be the well rounded firearms company that Smith and Wesson is

With the exception of the Glock Model 18, I have never seen a need for a 30+ round magazine in a handgun. The 33 round Glock mag was designed for the Model 18. That is why the 33 round Glock mag initially appeared in their lineup. However most are probably purchased for the cool factor

The 15+1 rounds in my M&P357 do me just fine.

If I am going into a situation where I feel the need for a 30 round magazine, then I want something more than a hand gun to go with that extra ammunition.

In those situations I take a carbine or SMG and look for cover.

But this is America and there does not have to be a NEED for something, just a want or desire.

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I hate to be that guy, BUT I'm surprised that you don't know that there ARE carbines that take/use the Glock larger then standard capacity magazines (32 rd 9mm and 22 rd .40 S&W).

Well Armed said:

Reading this thread, some of you make excellent arguments on why "high capacity magazines" aka +10 rounds aren't needed in any gun or rifle for that matter. Would be funny if ainties did a gun control PSA using screen shots of what some gun owners post on gun forums.

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I read some of these responses, and I had to make sure I was on a "pro-gun" forum.

While I agree that I usually do not have any need for an above standard capacity magazine, I do keep a few Glocks around, specifically because I can use the larger capacity magazines with them, and carbines (pretty much the ONLY reason I keep them).

Perhaps we only need single shot handguns then, because otherwise "what they really need is better training, more discipline."

What an absurd statement.

All the different pistols in the pawn shop where I work, one of the first questions many people as is there an "extendo" for that. The most rediculous things I ever saw was a 32 rounder for a bodyguard. Kinda defeats the purpose of small and concealable.

Sevens said:

But but but hahaha... S&W doesn't make items to support other gun maker's products. Glock doesn't either.

I'm not saying you are mistaken for wanting one or seeing the use for one, and I also agree that S&W could sell them. But if we are compiling a list of what S&W could do and should do, we have the potential to use up all the data storage the internet has to offer.

I thought the question was "why doesn't S&W offer these?" and the likely answer is because S&W doesn't make a 9mm carbine but a BETTER answer is "because S&W doesn't much care what folks think... reference the lock on all the revolvers that zero in the market actually want."

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PLEASE DON'T MAKE THOSE GENERALIZED STATEMENTS, Sevens......

AFTER 60 YEARS OF SHOOTING REVOLVERS WITHOUT AN INCIDENT, IT FINALLY DAWNED ON ME THAT WHAT I NEEDED WAS AN INTERNAL LOCK TO KEEP MY GUNS SAFE......

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, S&W ! ! !

Chuck24 said:

All the different pistols in the pawn shop where I work, one of the first questions many people as is there an "extendo" for that. The most rediculous things I ever saw was a 32 rounder for a bodyguard. Kinda defeats the purpose of small and concealable.

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Fun at the range no doubt. I don't think people actually conceal carry Glock or any other 32+ rounders.

This discussion goes nowhere.

You could ask why S&W took as long as it did to make a pistol the size of the Glock 19, or why the 2.0 has a frame texture more like the long out-of-favor RTF2 texture - you know the one that rubbed holes in uniform shirts in two weeks; or why S&W doesn't offer armorer classes and spare parts on the same scale as Glock, or why, why, why.

And you could ask Glock why they don't make 1911s, revolvers, and ARs.

And you could ask both why they don't make hunting rifles, shotguns, and other "sporting weapons."

Like I said, this discussion goes nowhere.

LOL

I agree it's crazy they don't make them. Sig and Glock has factory options. I only use factory mags and hope S&W will make some one day.


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And now Glock has the 24 round 9mm magazine too.


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MochaJoe said:

Because S&W pistols can actually put rounds on target.

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I think the majority of gun owners are overconfident in their shooting abilities. Reading the forums you would think the only reason someone would need more than a 5 shot snubby is being attacked by 6 or more thugs. That the only way one of their bullets could injure an innocent person is if it over penetrates the criminal being shot because missing is not possible. That shooting a gun in a real gunfight is as easy as shooting one at the range.

Statistics say otherwise. People miss a lot more than they hit, both civilians and police officers. Those statistics are skewed by many people that buy a gun and never practice with it but more misses than hits is also true of police that have to at least qualify once or twice a year. Every time I think I am special and statistics like that do not apply to me life finds a way to remind me that I am not nearly as special or gifted as I think I am.

There probably are some people reading this that really are capable of hitting more than they miss in a real gunfight. But unless you have a place to train where you can suddenly shoot at moving targets while moving around, or better yet compete I wouldn't count on it.

A few years ago when I bought a Glock 19 I also bought a 33 round magazine for it. I loaded and fired it once. It made the gun awkward to handle. I mostly bought it as a range toy but it wasn't really that much fun. Despite my probably not being able to make every shot count in a real gunfight having a 17 round magazine in M&P compact at home and a 7 round magazine in the Glock 43 I carry seem like enough for the sort of threats I would most likely face.

But if someone is worried about getting visited by a home invasion crew their wanting a 33 round magazine is not unreasonable.

Sevens said:

There is basically only one reason that Glock ever offered the 33 round 9mm magazine... it was to mate with the Glock 18, a select fire machine pistol. That there are carbines by other gunmakers that accept them has nothing to do with Glock's motivation for creating them.

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Glock made them and sold them and continues to sell them because they are profitable.

Geoff
Who has a couple for his G19 G2 and is pining for a Ruger 9 carbine...but I had unexpected expenses this year....sigh...$480 on sale...sigh...

Chuck24 said:

All the different pistols in the pawn shop where I work, one of the first questions many people as is there an "extendo" for that. The most rediculous things I ever saw was a 32 rounder for a bodyguard. Kinda defeats the purpose of small and concealable.

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If you get to the point where you have to reload, a long magazine has attractions. If your car is caught in a "Demonstration" and you are about to get dragged out and beaten to death a quick magazine change and a lot of rounds into the faces of the attackers through the broken window can be reassuring.

Geoff
Who remembers the Boy Scout Motto.

I've wondered why M&P mags aren't more prevalent especially since M&Ps are eating up some of Glock's market share.

...I have a bunch of 30 round mags...

Telecaster said:

I have two of the Pro Mags, they work.

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"Works..." That can have 2 connotations. Either "functions properly" or....."goes thru a LOT of ammo REAL FAST..!

kbm6893 said:

Just wondering. If the M&P is a competitor to Glock, especially the new 2.0 Compact to the Glock 19, and the Kel Tec Su-2000 has an M&P version, why wouldn't S&W make a 30 or 30 plus round magazine to compete with the factory Glock 33 round mags?

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Because people that buy Smiths are better shots and don't need 30 rounds...hahahahahahaa.

Never trust any mag that says "Pro Mag" on it. If you do find one that works, enjoy it at the range, but not when your life could be on the line.

Struckat said:

Never trust any mag that says "Pro Mag" on it. If you do find one that works, enjoy it at the range, but not when your life could be on the line.

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I hear a lot of people say this. They're still in business and they sell a lot of mags so, they must be working for someone.

The only ProMag I've ever used was for my Mini-14. I have about 5 of them and they work great. In fact, they work better than the factory mags. But that's just one example.

I have a Kel-Tec sub 2000 which accepts M&P mags. I have it because I also have an M&P. With a 30rd. mag you gain flexibility in a bad situation OR more fun at the range. Who wouldn't want 30 rounds for a carbine? Keeping loyal customers happy should at least be a consideration for Smith and Wesson. Can't see production of a 30-33 round mag breaking the bank for S&W. Just my .02 cents worth.

I must run out & buy a couple of those 33rd magazines for a Glock 18 to try in my Glock 26.. Just because.. I might need it someday & possibly a 22rd one for my Glock 24 too..

It would seem that the demand for 30 plus round mags is not high enough for s&w to care but there are plenty of options for others brands of " pistol " to cover most peoples needs . Maybe you should go back to gluck brand to fill your extra capacity needs .