Can anyone point me toward a good video or instructions to remove the brace from a M&P15 AR Pistol? It is the original/factory brace.

Not trying to start a political discussion. Do not want any part of the SBR business. Just want to remove the brace from the pistol. Thanks.

[UPDATED - See photo and instructions below]

Well, about two minutes after I posted, forum member Jeppo called and talked me through the process. Super easy. Leaving the thread active in the event somebody wants to post a helpful video. I'll post a step-by-step photo of the process later today or tomorrow.

Fully extend the brace. Grab it right here, at the back of the lever that allows extension / retraction, and pull down. It is spring loaded. Pull straight down and, while pulling down, you can pull the brace off the buffer tube.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

So easy even a caveman can do it.

__________________
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

With Jeppo’s help.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

If I don’t have stacks of SWCA journals on both sides, will it still work? 🤔

Now, just where to "properly store" it vis-a-vis US v. Thompson-Center...?

Cheers!

Amazing that it removes the same as an adjustable stock.

__________________
Only a cold warrior

Because it is. GARY.

Has the BATF said in writing that a bare buffer is legal without being registered?

The buffer tube has always been an integral part of the AR since day one. Without one, the gun wouldn’t cycle. The problem started when people put a brace on that tube. GARY.

I am aware of the inconsistent position of the BATF over the years on braces.

I am interpreting the O.P. question is based on a belief that a bare buffer tube is non-NFA legal. So my question is has the BATF said in writing what is non-NFA legal?

I am going to donate it to Habitat for Humanity and then write it off on my 2023 taxes.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

It seems that things in general are legal until a law says they are not. If buffer tube were illegal on a handgun then all AR pistols would be illegal

__________________
balin
NRA Life Member

Please don't give anyone any new, additional non-Constitutional ideas..!

Please!

P.S. What if firing pins were "considered" to be "machine guns"?

Uh,... What "problem" do you refer to?

P.S. AK pistols don't have buffer tubes...

Uh... Has the BATF said in writing that a bare buffer is ILLEGAL without being registered?

Does anyone really know what time it is: does anybody really care...?

No, it is required.

Funny, my AR pistol has a tube. If it didn’t, it wouldn’t cycle. And the problem I refer to is people using a brace to skirt the NFA SBR rules. I knew this would happen since day one. These were invented by a one armed person to help him shoot. Not to use as a SBR by healthy people with two arms. This is how a pistol brace was designed to be used. Funny, at the range where I work, I never see anyone properly use their brace. They are young, healthy, & have both arms. GARY.
https://freerangeamerican.us/wp-cont...06/sba4-1.jpeg

IMHO, the entire concept of a SBR being somehow "dangerous and unusual" is quite illogical to begin with (in addition to being unConstitutional)...

Which is more "concealable" from a crime-prevention standpoint(?): a 12" barreled pistol (with or sans a brace) or a 7" barreled rifle with a full A2 buttstock?

Which is somehow more intrinsically evil? More of an (so-called) "assault weapon"?

Cheers!

Which is what the President has said on several occasions the latest on February 7th during his State of the Union address when he called for a ban on semiautomatic pistols not once but twice in his speech.

And the band played on.

As originally written the NFA would have placed all handguns in the same category as full auto machine guns. Allowing SBRs would have made the handgun ban ineffective so they were banned too. The handgun ban was removed but the SBR ban was not, probably because SBRs were so rare at the time not many people knew what they were or cared if they were banned.

But yes, it is one of the many, many illogical laws that have been enacted over the years.

Yes, the BATF put out a nearly 300 page document explaining everything. Including why they did what they did, and comments supporting what they did that they say are from gun owners.

Laws don’t usually tell you what is legal, they tell you what is illegal. However, in this document they have a whole section on what your options are to be legal.

Here is a page that has a link to the document...

factoring_criteria_for_firearms_with_attached_stabilizing_braces.pdf | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Make sure to download a copy as a souvenir of a failed attempt to sidestep the Bill of Rights...!

At the local gun show today, the ATF had a meeting with the FFL’s before the show started. I’ll just discuss the brace portion of the meeting.

Then they got into braces. There will be a special division who will only handle the amnesty/free SBR paperwork, so this will not slow down people applying for form 4’s, or those who still want to pay the $200 for the regular form 1. 922 rules about US parts, or engraving do not apply to the amnesty form 1’s, which leads me to believe they’re in a different class from the $200 form 1’s. He continued to say you can’t have a tube with six notches on a pistol, but a smooth tube was fine.
GARY.

I have that document but have not read all of it. I have skipping reading much of it as it does not define what is legal or illegal but if you can direct me to the pages that do I would be most grateful.

See N4KVE post about the BATF agent comments that AR buffer tube with the notches will not be legal. Where in the regulation does it say only smooth buffer tubes are non-NFL legal?

You can go to “Options for Affected Persons” on page 270. After reading that you may still have questions that will require you to read the whole document, but that’s a good place to start.

Why do you have a problem with this? That is the question.