Best bulk or surplus ammo for accuracy?

I'm shooting 168 grain Federal Gold Medal Match right now. At $27 a box (about $1.50 a round after tax) I can't shoot as much as I want to.

I am not interested in the cheapest ammo. I want to stock up on an accurate round that works in the M&P 10 specifically.

I have heard that there are some surplus or bulk 308 ammo that is very accurate. What has everyone used in their M&P 10 that gave the best performance?

Hirtenberger?
Lithuanian?
German DAG?
MAN?
Radway Green?
Portuguese?
South African?

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Google Freedom Munitions for new or reman quality at half that price! Hornady 168 Amax.

Go to a local gun show. You may have local custom reloaders at a decent price.

Some place like Palmetto Armory may have some mil surp 150 from Federal, but? 150 is so so in these.

South African has been very accurate in all my semi auto rifles in 308. It's my first test ammo for accuracy. The S A ammo sets the baseline on what I can expect from a new rifle.

Back when it was easy to find, the Portuguese surplus was always very accurate in my rifles. The surplus DAG ammo with the "silver" bullets also shoots very well thru my HK91 / CETME / M1a / Armalite AR10t.

PPU ball is decent for the price, and their match version is very good, at about $10 less a box than Federal Gold Metal. PPU brass is also reloadable, and of very good quality.

Larry

Just purchased some Portuguese NATO milsurp (BF 79) in battle packs at a gun show. Private seller sold them @ 50 cents a round. Was informed by the M1A expert that it's pretty good stuff to use in that rifle, but it will also be tried in the MP-10 but I've not had the chance yet. Should have no problems. Also heard a lot of good about the South African.



the expert on the M14 forum posted his test results/rankings (i hope he doesn't mind my sharing them).


1, M852 Lake City from 1991. Top score of 200-20X, on a SR-1 NRA standard 100 yard target, 1-20 round mag only with my NM M1A.
2, Argentine FLB, surplus from 1983, 200-16X.
3, M118LR Lake City from 2003, 200-13X.
4, German DAG, surplus from 1993, 200-12X.
5, M118SB Lake City from 1983, 200-10X.
6, M852 Lake City from 1988, 200-10X.
7, Radway Green surplus from 1990, 200-10X.
8, Greek surplus from 1980, 200-10X.
9. Santa Barbara surplus from 1968, 200-8X.
10, Australian MF surplus from 1966, 200-6X.
11, M118SB Lake City from 1985, a 199-12X.
12, Nigerian from 1970, 199-10X.
13, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1979, a 199-10X <<<<<.
14, Radway Green surplus from 1985, 198-12X.
15, Belgium surplus from 1977, 198-10X.
16, Bosnian surplus from 2003, 198-10X.
17, Radway Green surplus from 1995, 198-9X
18, Austria surplus from 1980, 198-8X.
19, South African surplus from 1980, 198-6X.
20, Santa Barbara surplus from 1980, 197-14X.
21, Argentine surplus from 1983, 197-8X.
22, German DAG, surplus from 1976, 197-8X.
23, German MEN, surplus from 1969, 197-6X.
24, Singapore surplus from 1986, 196-11X.
25, Israeli surplus from 1974, 196-10X.
26, Australian ADI surplus from 1988, 196-8X.
27, Bosnian M118 surplus from 2003, 196-8X.
28, Serbia surplus from 2002, 196-6X.
29, Malaysian surplus from 1982, 195-6X.
30, Malaysian surplus from 1983, 194-9X.
31, Lithuanian surplus from 2003, 194-6X.
32, Serbia surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
33, Venezuelan surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
34, Denmark, surplus from 1993, 193-2X.
35, Canadian, surplus from 1970, 192-8X.
36, Chilean, surplus from 1976, 191-4X.
37, Indonesian surplus from 1985, 190-6X
38, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1978, 190-4X.
39, Austria surplus from 1978, 190-3X.
40, South African surplus from 1981, 189-1X.
41, Pakistan surplus from 1979. Score of 188-4X.

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A little of your time will get you quality ammunition at an affordable price. (assuming you can afford to buy cheap-stuff in the first place)

Perhaps the best "cheap" ammunition that I've found out there that has any real accuracy out there is Freedom Munitions reloads.

Nothing against bulk ammo. Hell, I buy it for range time and what not but I do not expect to get MOA or less accuracy from it. It was never meant to be that accurate in the first place. Bulk ammo, especially military surplus was meant for the average soldier where hitting the enemy in the center mass area was good enough.

You can get Hirt from several sources for around 54 cents delivered if you order a case of 960 or so. It is very accurate ammo.
You can also get the FGMMatch for a lot cheaper than the $27/box than you are paying from online sources. Around a buck a round if you are insistent upon that round.
There is some German DAG available currently that has been milled at the head to erase the headstamp. Don't go near it.
If you can get RG, Port or SA, it is also good stuff but I don't see it from the importers near as often anymore.
Ed

Time to start reloading and make custom ammo for your specific rifle and use for less then cheapo ammo.

Damn- There is someone in the CHOIR awake!

chipper said:

Time to start reloading and make custom ammo for your specific rifle and use for less then cheapo ammo.

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[CHIPPER] There are few real enthusiasts out there..

PPU 165 is very close out to 200 to the Matchking. BulkAmmo.com